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Old 07-27-2011, 09:46 PM   #51
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:04 PM   #52
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:47 PM   #53
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Facts mean I'm talking like a politician?

If anything, your continual twisting of what the graph actually means is far more like a politician.
You're spinning words, like it's not technically a war if he just sent a bunch of drones to blow up people in Pakistan, or he did build up the effort in Afghanistan, but Bush started it, so Obama is at no fault, pure spin
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:10 AM   #54
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the tea party is the cutting edge of america. people who want to bring us back to the values that founded our nation.

Do you hate the people that created the constitution?

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Please don't make me barf.. The average tea party member can't even write a protest sign with out misspelling half the words. They are just meat puppets that react to nothing but 30 second sound bites and typically don't have a clue as to what they are actually protesting about.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:21 AM   #55
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You're spinning words, like it's not technically a war if he just sent a bunch of drones to blow up people in Pakistan, or he did build up the effort in Afghanistan, but Bush started it, so Obama is at no fault, pure spin
Wasn't Obama and the left going on about ending the war in Iraw so they could focus on the real place the war should be in Afghanistan?
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:17 AM   #56
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You're spinning words, like it's not technically a war if he just sent a bunch of drones to blow up people in Pakistan, or he did build up the effort in Afghanistan, but Bush started it, so Obama is at no fault, pure spin
No, I'm not spinning anything.... it being a war or not, makes no difference, he did not set the policy for the wars, the budgets behind them, someone else did. It makes no difference if Obama shifted the focus, the same money was used, new policy was not created to fund it.

Again, we're talking about the chart BFT3K posted, which is titled: "Policy Changes Under Two Presidents" and represents the costs/projections of policies each President started.

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Your hate blinds you so much.... it's pathetic, sad, and a disgrace.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:18 AM   #57
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Wasn't Obama and the left going on about ending the war in Iraw so they could focus on the real place the war should be in Afghanistan?
Yep, that's what he campaigned on.. well, actually it was to pull combat troops out of Iraq and focus them in Afghan to get the bad guy, which is exactly what he did.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:37 AM   #58
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Are you saying you support those completely stupid, retarded, robbing your ass plans that did little to nothing to actually correct anything or solve a single problem? Or are you okay with them pretending it was good and wasting everyones time on something that would of course get rejected?

Personally, I would rather they put a plan through that will pass, the first time. Rather than band standing around, pretending like they did something, to make talking point memos fire up, when they know damn well it was total shit.

It's bizarre that you ignore this.
Regardless of whether you and your liberal pundits don't like the plans that the Republicans put out, at least they put out a plan on paper for people to actually analyze. The Democrats, with only 4 days left, STILL HAVE OUT NOTHING ON PAPER. It seems pretty clear that the reasoning behind this is PURELY political. They would rather have the Republicans put something out, then if they can persuade them to change it in a way that alienates the Republican base, that works for the Dem's, while in the meantime always being able to say to the Democratic base that it wasn't the Dem's fault that the plan had stuff the Dem's didn't like in it, since it is a "Republican" plan.

So please get off the high and mighty horse, you Dem's out there. Your party is MUCH more interested in the politics of this situation than they are in putting out a real plan to fix it.



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Yep, that's what he campaigned on.. well, actually it was to pull combat troops out of Iraq and focus them in Afghan to get the bad guy, which is exactly what he did.
So, all Afghan money can go on Obamas bill?
If not, then you are saying if Bush did not start the war, Obama would of not done it either?
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Regardless of whether you and your liberal pundits don't like the plans that the Republicans put out, at least they put out a plan on paper for people to actually analyze. The Democrats, with only 4 days left, STILL HAVE OUT NOTHING ON PAPER. It seems pretty clear that the reasoning behind this is PURELY political. They would rather have the Republicans put something out, then if they can persuade them to change it in a way that alienates the Republican base, that works for the Dem's, while in the meantime always being able to say to the Democratic base that it wasn't the Dem's fault that the plan had stuff the Dem's didn't like in it, since it is a "Republican" plan.

So please get off the high and mighty horse, you Dem's out there. Your party is MUCH more interested in the politics of this situation than they are in putting out a real plan to fix it.



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it should be clean bill like 17 times it was done for Reagan or the 7 times for bush. Your party is the one playing games and in fact John Boehner said the tea party house members are hoping to go past the august 2 deadline and that in the caos they will get balanced budget amendment. Yeah they are playing dangerous games.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/263105/the...l-victims-unit
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:27 PM   #61
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So, all Afghan money can go on Obamas bill?
If not, then you are saying if Bush did not start the war, Obama would of not done it either?
Related to the chart? Umm.... no, not even possible.

No, I'm not saying that and your 2nd question asks for my opinion, which is of no factor to the chart.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:34 PM   #62
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here this will make the obama is the biggest liberal group heads explode because thats so far from the truth. lol

Barack Obama: The Democrats? Richard Nixon?
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:35 PM   #63
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it should be clean bill like 17 times it was done for Reagan or the 7 times for bush. Your party is the one playing games and in fact John Boehner said the tea party house members are hoping to go past the august 2 deadline and that in the caos they will get balanced budget amendment. Yeah they are playing dangerous games.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/263105/the...l-victims-unit
is this the vid you meant to post? i watched it all and didn't see a correlation b/w it and what you wrote...
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:39 PM   #64
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Regardless of whether you and your liberal pundits don't like the plans that the Republicans put out, at least they put out a plan on paper for people to actually analyze. The Democrats, with only 4 days left, STILL HAVE OUT NOTHING ON PAPER. It seems pretty clear that the reasoning behind this is PURELY political. They would rather have the Republicans put something out, then if they can persuade them to change it in a way that alienates the Republican base, that works for the Dem's, while in the meantime always being able to say to the Democratic base that it wasn't the Dem's fault that the plan had stuff the Dem's didn't like in it, since it is a "Republican" plan.

So please get off the high and mighty horse, you Dem's out there. Your party is MUCH more interested in the politics of this situation than they are in putting out a real plan to fix it.



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Liberal pundits? The local Right Wing morning talk show host was railing the Republican proposals, not that he was for the Dems, he was railing them both, equally, as complete junk, which is correct.

The Dems DO HAVE SOMETHING ON PAPER - IT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT, enough to find out it didn't cut as much as they thought it would, just like the Reps. Difference is, they just aren't putting versions of it through, when they KNOW the Reps will just kill it (when they've said they will).... Truly, only a bunch of fools would waste time doing shit they know will never happen, all for the tv, all to make people think they're doing more, when in reality they're slowing it down.

Both sides are at equal fault here, neither are truly cutting crap and both want to fuck the citizen's over a little more. The only difference is how they're doing it, the result is the same either way.

You've been hoodwinked by what's going on....
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is this the vid you meant to post? i watched it all and didn't see a correlation b/w it and what you wrote...
no I just thought it was amusing. lol Like to end a high note
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McCain erupts: Conservatives are lying to America
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