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  • pornmasta
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2006
    • 20019

    #1

    What's up with ccbill ?

    Are they on vacation ?

    (i'm not trying to contact them)
  • wehateporn
    Promoting Debate on GFY
    • Apr 2007
    • 27176

    #2
    Originally posted by pornmasta
    Are they on vacation ?

    (i'm not trying to contact them)
    No sales?

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    • pornmasta
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jun 2006
      • 20019

      #3
      Originally posted by wehateporn
      No sales?
      no sales during days and suddently for a given day, several sales with sponsors for which i send 1-10 hits per day (and no sale with the sponsors that i promote more and that are used to convert)
      Last edited by pornmasta; 07-23-2011, 02:38 PM.

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      • OneHungLo
        So Fucking Banned
        • May 2001
        • 40906

        #4
        Originally posted by pornmasta
        no sales during days and suddently for a given day, several sales with sponsors for which i send 1-10 hits per day (and no sale with the sponsors that i promote more and that are used to convert)

        Same here...I figured it's either my hosting or them. I go hours I'll get 5-10 sign ups an hour then 6 hours straight i do not get a single sign up...they will always say nothing is wrong tho.

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        • wehateporn
          Promoting Debate on GFY
          • Apr 2007
          • 27176

          #5
          Originally posted by pornmasta
          no sales during days and suddently for a given day, several sales with sponsors for which i send 1-10 hits per day (and no sale with the sponsors that i promote more and that are used to convert)

          First I want to say I am happy with my CCBill sales, not complaining, but being a stats man I do notice sales seem to arrive in batches. I figured it was either that 1 surfer comes in, loves the site then goes around buying everything, or that the sales have been sitting waiting for approval somewhere in the system. Come to think of it actually, often when those CCBill sales come in I also see lots of sales in other systems too, so I suspect it's the surfers, at least in my case.

          Recently I have been seeing more sales from obscure sponsors coming through, which I'm rather pleased about, but I do get most of my sales from around 5 sponsors

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          • pornmasta
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2006
            • 20019

            #6
            * bump *

            is ccbill in vacation ?

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            • BareBacked
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2007
              • 3685

              #7
              Originally posted by pornmasta
              * bump *

              is ccbill in vacation ?
              [email protected]

              they reply within a few hours
              NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

              Selfies

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              • chronig
                Registered User
                • Oct 2009
                • 2653

                #8
                Originally posted by wehateporn
                First I want to say I am happy with my CCBill sales, not complaining, but being a stats man I do notice sales seem to arrive in batches. I figured it was either that 1 surfer comes in, loves the site then goes around buying everything, or that the sales have been sitting waiting for approval somewhere in the system. Come to think of it actually, often when those CCBill sales come in I also see lots of sales in other systems too, so I suspect it's the surfers, at least in my case.
                And it didn't occur to you that people might sign up to websites habitually during the *gasp* SAME HOURS OF THE DAY???

                Just a possibility. Not saying either case is the problem, as of course I've noticed it and I'm sure everyone has. But I've not only noticed it with CCBill, I've noticed it with other billers too - I'm more so talking about certain hours of the day that seem to yield more sales than others. Same way certain hours of the day yield more traffic hits than others...

                Thing is, people that 'pay' for subscriptions are becoming a smaller demographic. Even if there's more of them overall due to more people being on the internet, the 'type' of person that buys subscriptions has shrunk in characteristics due to the ease of pirating/tubesites/etc. Paysite customers will likely form more patterns now than ever before due to being more alike eachother than a couple years ago. Either that or I'm just full of shit

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                • CCBILL_James
                  Registered User
                  • May 2009
                  • 92

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BareBacked
                  [email protected]

                  they reply within a few hours
                  Our client support team is available 24/7. If you have any questions regarding your account please feel free to contact us anytime.

                  [email protected]
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                  James B.
                  Client Support Supervisor
                  [email protected]
                  1-800-510-2859

                  CCBill Merchant and Affiliate Support
                  US Phone: 800-510-2859
                  International Phone: 00-1-855-588-3585
                  Email: adminsupport at ccbill.com
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                  • pornmasta
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 20019

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BareBacked
                    [email protected]

                    they reply within a few hours
                    "(i'm not trying to contact them)"

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                    • chronig
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2653

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pornmasta
                      "(i'm not trying to contact them)"

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                      • pornmasta
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 20019

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CCBILL_James
                        Our client support team is available 24/7. If you have any questions regarding your account please feel free to contact us anytime.

                        ok so you are not in vacation.
                        Great... (or not...)

                        I have suddently nearly no more recurring sale... while i have more visitors.
                        I fact while i should have a peak of sale, i have no recurring sale at all.
                        The month was fine until before the middle of july...

                        I'm not complaining or claiming that i have sales, i'm just wondering why this happens.
                        If you need to check the sales, it could be an explanation if you are in vacation.
                        (or of the weather is too hot, i don't know...).
                        I'm just sure that's pretty unsual.
                        My customers are perhaps full of malwares and i'm prehaps a target ?


                        2011-07-14 00:00 to 2011-07-26 23:59
                        32000 hits
                        conversion ratio: 1/4000 (8 new sales)

                        2011-07-21 alone: 4 new sales
                        2011-07-24 alone: 2 new sales
                        so i have 13 days, with only 2 real days


                        2010-07-14 00:00 to 2010-07-26 23:59
                        15500 hits
                        conversion ratio: 1/1000 (new sales)

                        2011-07-01 00:00 to 2011-07-12 23:59
                        25000 hits
                        conversion ratio: 1:1450 (new sales)

                        and everything is fine with my other sponsors...


                        So what could be the problem in your opinion ?
                        Do you want that i estimate the odds this happens naturally ? in 13 days ?

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                        • PromoterX
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 949

                          #13
                          Meanwhile, at the CCBILL support headquarters:

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                          • pornmasta
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 20019

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PromoterX
                            Meanwhile, at the CCBILL support headquarters:

                            i'm looking for an explanation, not a responsible

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                            • pornmasta
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 20019

                              #15
                              "times is was actually our fault"
                              >>
                              once i found a bug where transactions where counted but not paid (muttcash, problem with ccbill).


                              I wonder how many time transactions are just not counted...
                              (I guess i can find out if i compare my ratios)
                              Last edited by pornmasta; 07-26-2011, 08:55 PM.

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                              • PromoterX
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 949

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pornmasta
                                i'm looking for an explanation, not a responsible
                                Yeah I know.. i've been lurking and posting here under various names since 2004, i've seen this type of thread come up so many times that if I was to get a buck for every time someone complained about ratios on GFY, i'd fucking retire right now.

                                Anyways, nothing personal, but I just couldn't resist.

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                                • The Porn Nerd
                                  Living The Dream
                                  • Jun 2009
                                  • 19788

                                  #17
                                  CCBill bump - no sales in NINE HOURS people. Massive traffic, no sales for NINE HOURS. WTF?

                                  Whatever, links pulled.
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                                  • mountainmiester
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 509

                                    #18
                                    Why aren't you guys cascading or at least using a secondary? This must be the billionth thread I've seen like this.

                                    Bucket your traffic and put 1/2 to CCBill and the other 1/2 to another provider and see what is going on.
                                    Last edited by mountainmiester; 07-27-2011, 10:00 AM.
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                                    • 96ukssob
                                      So Fucking Banananananas
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 12991

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PromoterX
                                      Meanwhile, at the CCBILL support headquarters:

                                      Email: Clicky on Me

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                                      • pornmasta
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jun 2006
                                        • 20019

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mountainmiester
                                        Why aren't you guys cascading or at least using a secondary? This must be the billionth thread I've seen like this.

                                        Bucket your traffic and put 1/2 to CCBill and the other 1/2 to another provider and see what is going on.
                                        i'm an affiliate, i should perhaps open my own program ? (while tubes are on ?)

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                                        • wehateporn
                                          Promoting Debate on GFY
                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 27176

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by chronig
                                          And it didn't occur to you that people might sign up to websites habitually during the *gasp* SAME HOURS OF THE DAY???

                                          Just a possibility. Not saying either case is the problem, as of course I've noticed it and I'm sure everyone has. But I've not only noticed it with CCBill, I've noticed it with other billers too - I'm more so talking about certain hours of the day that seem to yield more sales than others. Same way certain hours of the day yield more traffic hits than others...

                                          Thing is, people that 'pay' for subscriptions are becoming a smaller demographic. Even if there's more of them overall due to more people being on the internet, the 'type' of person that buys subscriptions has shrunk in characteristics due to the ease of pirating/tubesites/etc. Paysite customers will likely form more patterns now than ever before due to being more alike eachother than a couple years ago. Either that or I'm just full of shit
                                          Absolutely, but seems like I didn't mention it. Very important point

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                                          • pornmasta
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 20019

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PromoterX

                                            i'm pretty sure, it is a good thing to report weirds stuffs...

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                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                              Living The Dream
                                              • Jun 2009
                                              • 19788

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pornmasta
                                              i'm pretty sure, it is a good thing to report weirds stuffs...


                                              Yes, yes it is dude - like why I'm suddenly going hours upon hours without a sale when just this week, if an hour went by without multiple sales it would be odd. Huh.

                                              Whatever, CCBill is a fine company!
                                              My Affiliate Programs:
                                              Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                                              Over 90 paysites to promote!
                                              Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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                                              • patavax
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2006
                                                • 222

                                                #24
                                                My main sponsors are CCBILL sites that I am pushing since more than 5 years and I had a steady income with them till june 2011. Since July 2011 I see a dramatical drop in sales. I had bad periods before (12 days with low sales in May 2010 and there were more periods of 2-3 days with low sales) but what I see now since the start of July 2011 is a cut of over 50% in sales and I do not see anything good right now. It's almost impossible to have the same income of last year with these sales.
                                                Saturday + Sunday are good days for me but over the last weekend (weekend of August 20-21) I only get 4 new sales and that is really bad!

                                                I asked my main sponsor if he saw the same in his global sales and he does. He also told me there are almost NO sales from U.S.A. customers in July - August 2011 but about 80% is from Germany.

                                                I am also sending small amounts of traffic to NATS sites and also with them I see a drop in sales. Due to the fact that I am only sending small amounts of traffic to these latter ones it is very difficult to compare. But I see my ratios are bad too.


                                                I hope the next 4 months will be super to save a bit my year!
                                                Last edited by patavax; 08-22-2011, 01:22 AM.
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                                                • pantyfreek
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2007
                                                  • 32

                                                  #25
                                                  We are having the same problems. July was pretty good. Now we get maybe 2 a day. Go hours without a sign up. ~CCBill~ Failed rebills are at an all time high as well.

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                                                  • Fat Panda
                                                    Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 13296

                                                    #26
                                                    ccbill is a fucking joke...Ive been moving away from all ccbill sponsors...

                                                    plus ccbill's 1990s system is a fucking joke

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                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 32449

                                                      #27
                                                      shit happens

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                                                      • Finike
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 1581

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SAC
                                                        ccbill is a fucking joke...Ive been moving away from all ccbill sponsors...

                                                        plus ccbill's 1990s system is a fucking joke
                                                        This joke pays my bills
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                                                        • PornoMonster
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 2257

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SAC
                                                          ccbill is a fucking joke...Ive been moving away from all ccbill sponsors...

                                                          plus ccbill's 1990s system is a fucking joke
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                                                          • nikki99
                                                            Supermodel
                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                            • 23087

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by PromoterX
                                                            Meanwhile, at the CCBILL support headquarters:

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                                                            • NetHorse
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                              • 3526

                                                              #31
                                                              CCbill seems to be largest Adult processor yet they have the most ancient system of them all as well as the same complaints over and over again.
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                                                              • pantyfreek
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2007
                                                                • 32

                                                                #32
                                                                We have been with them since Lancelot went under. Its probably just people using pre-paid debit cards and when they try to rebill, there is nothing left on the card. Just helps if I can bitch once in a while!

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                                                                • Argos88
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Sep 2009
                                                                  • 1732

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                  no sales during days and suddently for a given day, several sales with sponsors for which i send 1-10 hits per day (and no sale with the sponsors that i promote more and that are used to convert)
                                                                  if you get no sales and you are wondering what's going on.. you must have lived in a box for the last 4 years.

                                                                  just a hint: pornbb.org...

                                                                  another hint? -> extreme-board

                                                                  another?? use google.

                                                                  its always funny when people blame CCBILL when they cannot see that this business is pretty done...

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                                                                  • BV
                                                                    wtf
                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                    • 10914

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                                                                    Yes, yes it is dude - like why I'm suddenly going hours upon hours without a sale when just this week, if an hour went by without multiple sales it would be odd. Huh.

                                                                    Whatever, CCBill is a fine company!


                                                                    "just this week, if an hour went buy with multiple sales" that is not your norm

                                                                    "suddenly going hours upon hours without a sale" this is not your norm

                                                                    average them together, this would be your norm

                                                                    in my 14 years of experience of running the same paysites; there is no norm

                                                                    sales fluctuate, period

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                                                                    • garce
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 7103

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                      i'm looking for an explanation, not a responsible
                                                                      Not responsible? Kick it, Tom!



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                                                                      • garce
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 7103

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by pantyfreek
                                                                        We have been with them since Lancelot went under. Its probably just people using pre-paid debit cards and when they try to rebill, there is nothing left on the card. Just helps if I can bitch once in a while!
                                                                        Lucky you skipped the GloBill stage. Probably missed out on the SyPro fun, as well.

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                                                                        • ArsewithClass
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Mar 2007
                                                                          • 7957

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by pornmasta
                                                                          no sales during days and suddently for a given day, several sales with sponsors for which i send 1-10 hits per day (and no sale with the sponsors that i promote more and that are used to convert)
                                                                          Maybe its the fact that surfers are purchasing unswamped porn, our affiliates are still making sales

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                                                                          • pantyfreek
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2007
                                                                            • 32

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Ha, Sypro... Yes, dealt with them as well. Stiffed me a few thousand bucks. I have been running pantyfreek.com since 1996 and have seen a lot of trends come and go. The only problem I am really bitching about with CCBill are the FAILED REBILLS. The company itself (Cavecreek, Ecsuite) has gone above and beyond for my business. Whenever I call, a real person answers the phone. The economy is the major blame for sluggish sales and the mass amounts of stolen free stuff.

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                                                                            • iamtam
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Feb 2010
                                                                              • 1211

                                                                              #39
                                                                              i continue to be convinced that some people have figured out a way to game the affiliate system.

                                                                              programs report consistant 1 in 500 1 in 600 1 in 700 sales, yet most affiliate are showing 1 in thousands if not 1 in ten thousands levels of conversions. the numbers dont add up, because it would take a whole pile of super productive traffic or an incredible near 1:1 sales ratio to make up for the poor performing affiliates.

                                                                              not easy to figure out, and it would require some serious forensic accounting to figure out if there is anything going on.

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                                                                              • CCBILL_James
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • May 2009
                                                                                • 92

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by pantyfreek
                                                                                Ha, Sypro... Yes, dealt with them as well. Stiffed me a few thousand bucks. I have been running pantyfreek.com since 1996 and have seen a lot of trends come and go. The only problem I am really bitching about with CCBill are the FAILED REBILLS. The company itself (Cavecreek, Ecsuite) has gone above and beyond for my business. Whenever I call, a real person answers the phone. The economy is the major blame for sluggish sales and the mass amounts of stolen free stuff.
                                                                                I would be glad to look into the failed rebills on your account. Please contact me at your earliest convenience.

                                                                                CCBill Merchant and Affiliate Support
                                                                                US Phone: 800-510-2859
                                                                                International Phone: 00-1-855-588-3585
                                                                                Email: adminsupport at ccbill.com
                                                                                Live chat: click the top right corner of the Admin Portal login page

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                                                                                • Socks
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 8475

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by iamtam
                                                                                  i continue to be convinced that some people have figured out a way to game the affiliate system.

                                                                                  programs report consistant 1 in 500 1 in 600 1 in 700 sales, yet most affiliate are showing 1 in thousands if not 1 in ten thousands levels of conversions. the numbers dont add up, because it would take a whole pile of super productive traffic or an incredible near 1:1 sales ratio to make up for the poor performing affiliates.

                                                                                  not easy to figure out, and it would require some serious forensic accounting to figure out if there is anything going on.
                                                                                  Yeah, it's called: All the sponsors lie about their overall ratios. Did you miss the memo? :P

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