The Party of "NO" is Destroying America

You don't realize big CEO's aren't the job creators. The middle class buying shit are the job creators. Middle class is shrinking no buying power =no jobs. This will be the first time where children wont do better than their parents. My grandfather was a presser of woman's coats in the garment industry. He was able to buy house, a car and raise 4 children while my grandmother stayed home. Sorry there is a difference between wealth and gluttony and it hurts the country that gave them a place that they could make millions of dollars.An example A stable currency, there are places they change the money. So you had 5000 in the bank yesterday with the old money but with the new money you got 500. That happened to my friend in turkey. We take that shit for granted but in America you dont have to worry about that.Also no one is talking about taking it all. During Clinton 4% higher tax rate and they had a surplus. So no one is taking everyone's money away. Ge made 11 billion dollars last year and paid nothing in taxes and 60 percent of their operations are overseas now, so they paying nothing taxes here didnt motivate them to hire anyone in the USA.That's the bullshit they push , its the taxes they really dont pay, its the regulations, etc ,etc no its the 70 cents an hour worker.

Who is going to force the middle class to buy? We have a stable currency?

Did you not just read your own sentences?

That is a direct relationship to an UNSTABLE currency. Why can't the middle class buy as much? Not because of the lack of jobs but because of inflation. Who does inflation benefit? The rich, who can more easily create ways to take advantage of the inflation and unstable currency .

GE made a 11 billion dollars, so? Why should they pay taxes on it?

The 70cent an hour worker could happen in the US too, if there was no regulation. So yes, it is regulation stopping job growth. Has all the safety and wage laws helped the US? Using your own words, no they havent. They have just shifted the "problems" and JOBS to other countries.

In the spirit of all the referenced information in this thread, I should also add it's a known fact that liberals are mentally retarded. The people rooting for higher taxes and bigger governement on THIS board of all places is PURE IRONY. Let that big gubbament help your business.....just let them.....give every nickle you EARN away to some scumbucket that is 100% able to work and can RUN to the welfare office but can't RUN to a job interview.

Fuck Freeloaders.

FYI the Republicans have already voted yes to raise the debt ceiling, the democrats are obstructing in the Senate.

I agree with Tony...CEO's are NOT "job creators" . Nobody is. And especially NOT the govt.

What creates jobs is a stable economy with a stable currency. Whenever that is in place the jobs are here because people BUY things. And when people buy things, more people get hired to MAKE things.

It's pretty simple really.

And the more money that the govt. takes from ANYBODY is less money in the real economy and more money in their propped up subsidies and military "economy".

That's just my opinion. We don't need to go further into debt. SENATOR Barrack Obama had it right when he voted against it and said any raising of the debt ceiling was a failure of leadership.

We need to STOP SPENDING.

Yeah, but if all the hiring takes place overseas what the fuck good does that do?

The government needs a healthy tax base and if the corporations won't provide one by hiring U.S. citizens, then maybe the government would do well to fill that gap by further taxing those very same corporations.

Kinda like the message in that old Midas commercial: "You can pay me now or you can pay me later".


Who's real economy?

Ours or India's?

Have the democrats posted their plan yet, they hadn't last time I checked.

It's not a corporations job or responsibility to "provide" jobs. It's a corporations job to make money for itself. Not to make money for the thieving politicians in Washington. Nor to make money for you or me.

The govt. "needs a healthy tax base"?
No, the govt. needs to do what it is supposed to do as framed by the founding fathers. It doesn't need to invade other countries that have not attacked us. It doesn't need to be a welfare "nanny" state. It doesn't need to bail out giant banks and insurance companies and car manufacturers. It doesn't need to spend money on "investigating" steroids in freakin' baseball.

What our govt. "needs" is to get back to reality. Get rid of all these career politicians and send them home.

Stop spending money like it doesn't mean anything.

Create an environment where businesses CAN hire Americans right here at home. And to "create" that...the govt. doesn't really have to do much at all except get out of the way.

And no, I don't mean let shit run wild. I mean stop with all the constant legislation that in the end doesn't do anything but line the pockets of politicians and drives business to open factories in other countries.

All that's really needed is a balanced govt. that doesn't overreach into everything. Yes, regulation is needed to a degree. But they've went way overboard...just like they do in everything the govt. touches. And then it just becomes a giant bureaucracy that never ends.

I moved from South Carolina to Las Vegas in 2008.

But a few years before that....the upstate of South Carolina where I lived got a GIANT economic boost that provided thousands of real high paying jobs.

It was the opening of the BMW plant in Spartanburg, SC

How did that little redneck town get that? The state, county, and city GAVE THEM GIANT TAX BREAKS & REGULATORY BREAKS.
It was incentive for them and they took it.

It literally turned the entire upstate of South Carolina's economy around (the economy was destroyed by the collapsing textiles industry)

THAT is how the govt. can make a difference and bring jobs in.
Yes, BMW could have built that plant in Mexico...but because the local govt. cut their taxes and made it easier for them to build...they brought that money and jobs to Spartanburg.

Now just think if govt. did that for EVERYBODY trying to open a business. We wouldn't have to worry about job growth anymore and our economy would turn around.

But hey...I understand that everyone has a differing opinion. And I respect that you do. I just feel that it is just plain common sense that if you already have corps LEAVING with jobs now, that if you tax them even harder they are going to leave even faster.

Again ge paid zero taxes on 11 billion in rev and they keep movng everything offshore.

Corporations create jobs when there is demand, not just because the government gives them welfare with the failed "trickle down" theories!

Corporate tax cuts, Canada anyways, only maybe return about 1/3 of their cost to the GDP!
The corporations are currently sitting on a ton of cash, and not doing anything, because the middleclass consumer/worker is balancing rent/gas/food just trying to keep their heads above water!

Bill Maher

The Reason Why Liberals Don't Like Bachmann & Palin

It's Not Because They Have Breasts, It's Because They're Boobs!!

Sounds like a job for Super Congress!

"Revenue" is not "profit"

Of course, its just a small and irrelevant detail for someone who doesn't create jobs or run a business.

110 billion in revenues and 11 billion profit $3.2 billion refund which they nicely donated after people figured out they weren't paying any taxes.

http://www.robinlea.com/wordpress/20...on-tax-refund/