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  • marketsmart
    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
    • Dec 2004
    • 20419

    #61
    Originally posted by TheSquealer
    When should it stop?

    Never?

    One more term?

    I don't care about Dems/Repubs. When does it all stop? When do we have a balanced budget requirement? When do we start getting this shit under control?

    i believe in two things when speaking about your chart..

    1) the debt ceiling should never be more than a % of the GDP..

    2) you dont spend money you dont have, whether a person or a country...





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    • TheSquealer
      Mayor of Thneedville
      • Oct 2004
      • 26172

      #62
      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
      Well its like the average household. Cost of everything increases but working wages do not, if anything they are decreasing. People are buying groceries on credit because the increased cost of living in no way keeps up with what they are making. I am no political pro, just an average guy and thats how i see it.

      Well... that was entertaining. Not sure what planet you live on where people are taking out bank loans to buy groceries because they can't afford groceries. It would seem obvious to anyone who could add and subtract that if you have to use credit to buy something every few days because you can't afford that thing... then you also can't afford to pay the loans back either.

      Not sure why you think any of that has anything to do with government continually spending in a manner that dramatically outpaces revenue and revenue growth.
      Last edited by TheSquealer; 07-22-2011, 05:47 PM.
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      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

      Rochard

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      • GAMEFINEST
        Make STACK$
        • Nov 2006
        • 14477

        #63
        Republicans are fucking alot of things up for a lot of people..
        Compound interest.

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        • BlackCrayon
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jun 2003
          • 19634

          #64
          Originally posted by TheSquealer
          Well... that was entertaining. Not sure what planet you live on where people are taking out bank loans to buy groceries because they can't afford groceries. It would seem obvious to anyone who could add and subtract that if you have to use credit to buy something every few days because you can't afford that thing... then you also can't afford to pay the loans back either.

          Not sure why you think any of that has anything to do with government continually spending in a manner that dramatically outpaces revenue and revenue growth.
          ok fake nick. lets cut all social programs and turn into a third world nation. sounds like a plan. old people need to die, poor people need to starve and only the rich should be allowed quality of life.
          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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          • TheSquealer
            Mayor of Thneedville
            • Oct 2004
            • 26172

            #65
            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
            ok fake nick. lets cut all social programs and turn into a third world nation. sounds like a plan. old people need to die, poor people need to starve and only the rich should be allowed quality of life.
            You have to resort to all this extreme, moronic and extraneous rhetoric, because you have nothing else.

            Simple fact... you can't keep spending more than you have to spend without consequences. Even a child can understand this simple mathematical reality.

            Apparently, you can't.

            It's ok though. Not everyone is meant to be an astronaut. Some people have to shovel the shit, drive the trucks and bag my groceries. Think of it as being useful and your life having a purpose.

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            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

            Rochard

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            • BlackCrayon
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jun 2003
              • 19634

              #66
              Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
              Why is so hard for you to understand if we have to continually borrow more credit to feed old/poor people when we don't have it now, is just a system of a much greater problem down the road? Besides, our current government thinks it's more important to make bullets with the money.
              if the US wasn't fighting useless wars and had a 1 billion per year defense budget, that would go a long way in fixing current problems. its all corrupt and doesn't serve the people in any way, shape or form any more. do i want to see friends and loved ones die to "fix" some kind of problem i didn't have any real role in creating? no. the debt is just "made up" more or less. it doesn't exist in actual money. its all a stupid game that the average person will end up paying for, in many cases, with their lives. and for what? raise the debt limit to infinity. does it really make a difference? it will never be paid back at what it is, or what it was.
              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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              • TheSquealer
                Mayor of Thneedville
                • Oct 2004
                • 26172

                #67
                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                if the US wasn't fighting useless wars and had a 1 billion per year defense budget, that would go a long way in fixing current problems. its all corrupt and doesn't serve the people in any way, shape or form any more. do i want to see friends and loved ones die to "fix" some kind of problem i didn't have any real role in creating? no. the debt is just "made up" more or less. it doesn't exist in actual money. its all a stupid game that the average person will end up paying for, in many cases, with their lives. and for what? raise the debt limit to infinity. does it really make a difference? it will never be paid back at what it is, or what it was.
                Are you really this much of a child? The debt is real. It is real money. It's packaged and sold in many forms to investors. It has to be paid back with interest. It does matter. Defaulting on interest payments would be catastrophic both to the US economy and global economy.
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                Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                Rochard

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                • BlackCrayon
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 19634

                  #68
                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                  Are you really this much of a child? The debt is real. It is real money. It's packaged and sold in many forms to investors. It has to be paid back with interest. It does matter. Defaulting on interest payments would be catastrophic both to the US economy and global economy.
                  Yes I am that much of a child. I don't want my life to be effected by bullshit i had no choice about. do you want to regress 100 years because politicians see more value in fighting wars than caring for their people?
                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                  • BlackCrayon
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 19634

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
                    Are you serious? I understand you're talking about Government debt, but this trickles down via taxes and inflation to people with "real" debt that if not paid become jobless/homeless. Like right now. You do understand they want the money NOT for primary social programs, but to feed the military because if they cut back that money, millions come home unemployed to a job market with NO jobs.

                    They don't have a real solution accept temporary disaster prevention. It's got to stop sometime and although, I'd never thought I'd ever lean republican, it's a must to just get it over with and start fresh or make drastic cuts to save what little we have left.
                    having 'millions' in the military is part of the problem. most of these people would be on welfare if not for the military, which would actualy be cheaper anyways. i'd rather they wait until im gone to 'start over'. i like my cushy lifestyle. what did you or i ever do to deserve an economic collapse. i've never collected welfare or asked for a handout or indebted myself more than i could pay back.
                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                    • TheSquealer
                      Mayor of Thneedville
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 26172

                      #70
                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                      Yes I am that much of a child. I don't want my life to be effected by bullshit i had no choice about. do you want to regress 100 years because politicians see more value in fighting wars than caring for their people?
                      It has nothing to do with wars or caring/not caring about people. Wars or not, the problem was there regardless and was growing regardles, just as it is for many western/asian nations. Greece is not about to default on their debt because they are fighting wars and don't care about people... same for the other countries that are on the verge of default.

                      You really seem to have no clue at all - but you have all these emotionally driven, irrational opinions on the subject which have nothing to do with either the topic or the problem/solution.
                      Last edited by TheSquealer; 07-22-2011, 07:16 PM. Reason: E
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                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                      Rochard

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                      • DirtyDanza
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 8375

                        #71
                        I told you fucks before this idiot got into office he was going to fuck us all.. did anyone listen? NOPE..... you all fucked yourselves by voting for this IDIOT.... obama would be good for one thing.... sizing caskets thats it....

                        the idiot does not know his head from his ass... I'm honestly surprised some of you fucks voted for him.. I gave you warning many many many times...... no one heeded my advise .. why? should have voted Romney in to begin with and when he did not get it you had to vote mccain and the broad ... trust me... obama fucks more shit up in 2 min than mccain could have done in a lifetime.... you you idiots voted for him.... fucking morons... seriously....
                        Danza Bucks is back!!!

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                        • TheSquealer
                          Mayor of Thneedville
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 26172

                          #72
                          Originally posted by DirtyDanza
                          I told you fucks before this idiot got into office he was going to fuck us all.. did anyone listen? NOPE..... you all fucked yourselves by voting for this IDIOT.... obama would be good for one thing.... sizing caskets thats it....

                          the idiot does not know his head from his ass... I'm honestly surprised some of you fucks voted for him.. I gave you warning many many many times...... no one heeded my advise .. why? should have voted Romney in to begin with and when he did not get it you had to vote mccain and the broad ... trust me... obama fucks more shit up in 2 min than mccain could have done in a lifetime.... you you idiots voted for him.... fucking morons... seriously....
                          Yeah... can't believe no one listened to you. I mean, you're so eloquent and well spoken when making your argument.
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                          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                          Rochard

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                          • Agent 488
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 22511

                            #73
                            yeah who would not listen to someone who admits they have a grade 7 education. that's just dumb.

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                            • glowlite
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 366

                              #74
                              Excellent post Tom, and it has produced some great opinions and response. I wish Obama would be just as blunt in some of his addresses. His popularity would soar. The voting public would skirt their representatives and line up behind the President.

                              Originally posted by PR_Tom
                              Obama could save a drowning nun and there would be those who say he's gone against gods will. Been saying it since inauguration day.

                              The very idea that wealthy people and corps create jobs when they pay no taxes is utter bullshit. The very idea that letting Bush tax cuts expire as designed by Bush is a tax increase is utter bullshit. Yet media outlets let them do it constantly because they're pussies with no backbones.

                              They would say that giving a corp zero taxes so they dont move that plant to Mexico is "creating jobs". But they'll say that allowing a tax cut expire that has failed on every single promise is "raising taxes". Apparently they are non-patriotic cock suckers because while wealthy people would be fine with paying the rate they used to pay to help lift the country, the GOP mouthpieces pretend it would ruin the world.

                              Until we decide that it's important to provide good public education instead of the miserable failure we have now, I dont see how the US is going to create enough intelligent people to make informed choices even if they watched the news 24/7. What are our schools now? They're secured locations where job 1 is to not tolerate anything against the rules. Fuck, they just change your test scores to passing even when you fail because of "no childs test score left too low" (humorously called No Child Left Behind because the point is to never let a child fail or you might lose your funding).

                              Wake the fuck up and pay attention or you deserve what you get. These pussies pretended they were voted in to create jobs and they created NOTHING but opposition to every attempt to move the country forward. Country first? More like Fuck the Country. Thats the GOP motto in 2011: "FUCK you. Pay us or we'll trash this dump"

                              okee doke. My break time over.

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                              • BFT3K
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 10764

                                #75

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