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directfiesta · 07-24-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

"Revenue" is not "profit"

Of course, its just a small and irrelevant detail for someone who doesn't create jobs or run a business.

he misquoted ... here you go :

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The industrial and financial giant reported income of $3.76 billion, or 35 cents per share, for the three months ended June 30. That compares with $3.11 billion, or 28 cents per share, for the same part of last year. Revenue fell 4 percent to $35.6 billion.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D9OKLPLG0.htm

If you multiply by four ( I know you are going to spin something , without backing ) , it gives 15.04 Billion ....

directfiesta · 07-24-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Have the democrats posted their plan yet, they hadn't last time I checked.

Obama, Democrats issue debt reduction plan without GOP

pretty clear :

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"In an effort to reach a bipartisan compromise, we are putting together a $2.7 trillion deficit reduction package that meets Republicans' two major criteria: it will include enough spending cuts to meet or exceed the amount of a debt ceiling raise through the end of 2012, and it will not include revenues," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid released in a statement Sunday night.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43864749...-capitol_hill/

Naturally, you cannot see that if you are avoiding the info ...

TheSquealer · 07-24-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

he misquoted ... here you go :

The fact that you are Canadian and do NOTHING but talk about the USA is a little disturbing. People here should be worried that you're going to be attacking a government office bldg in the near future.

Robbie · 07-24-2011, 08:24 PM

You guys are all fighting with each other and getting pissed at companies making a profit.

Who we should ALL be pissed at is the govt. THEY are the ones just printing money as they need it and spending it on anything they want. At least a company EARNED their money.

I think this is one of the ways the govt. gets away with this bullshit. By turning us on ourselves.

By the way...it doesn't matter if it's the Republicans FOUR TRILLION dollar "reduction" or Obama's 2.7 TRILLION reduction...
They both are OVER A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS.

In other words, even if future congress and presidents 10 years from now actually stick with it...it still will only be 400 billion a year for the Republican plan and 270 billion a year for Obama's plan.

And that is just about how much the govt. spends in ONE MONTH.

Guys, stop arguing about "republicans" or "democrats" or economic theories...it's all bullshit. MONEY & POWER is the name of this game. And it's the politicians who are playing us all like puppets on a string. They are ALL the same.

And they are the ones to blame. Not me, not you, and not people who become successful through hard work.

Doctor Dre · 07-24-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I told you fucks before this idiot got into office he was going to fuck us all.. did anyone listen? NOPE..... you all fucked yourselves by voting for this IDIOT.... obama would be good for one thing.... sizing caskets thats it....

the idiot does not know his head from his ass... I'm honestly surprised some of you fucks voted for him.. I gave you warning many many many times...... no one heeded my advise .. why? should have voted Romney in to begin with and when he did not get it you had to vote mccain and the broad ... trust me... obama fucks more shit up in 2 min than mccain could have done in a lifetime.... you you idiots voted for him.... fucking morons... seriously....

Repeated blows to the head can do this to you...

Doctor Dre · 07-24-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

no need to sugar coat shit and make it sound good like the democrats do... I am realist ... if you didn;t see this coming by voting this guy in office I don't know what to say..... all I can say is I tried to warn everybody but no one listened now they regret it.....

Didn't see that a bunch of corporatists would block every attempt at moving the country and the economy forward ?

Republican's #1 goal is to block Obama from a 2nd term, not to manage your country.

The rest of the world sees it, but right wings retards like you are playing russian roulette with the world economy right now.

If trust is gone in the dollar, your country is going in the shitter. The USD is the world reserve currency son... when trust is gone, power will be too.

The very deregulation and legislation that got the world in this bubble and trouble is what you're voting for right now... You're trusting corporations ?

raymor · 07-24-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Obama, Democrats issue debt reduction plan without GOP

pretty clear :

Naturally, you cannot see that if you are avoiding the info ...

So just now, after four months, they announce they'll start putting together a plan? The republicans in the house have already voted on and passed two plans. A little late to start putting something together. The dems were should have passed something prior to the last election, when they controlled the house, the senate and the white house. It would have been part of the budget they failed to pass when it was due.

Since the republicans have put fourth at least three comprehensive plans and the democrats have not put forth any plan, that makes the dems the party of "no", doesn't it? Great leadership, Mr. President.

TheDoc · 07-25-2011, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor

So just now, after four months, they announce they'll start putting together a plan? The republicans in the house have already voted on and passed two plans. A little late to start putting something together. The dems were should have passed something prior to the last election, when they controlled the house, the senate and the white house. It would have been part of the budget they failed to pass when it was due.

Since the republicans have put fourth at least three comprehensive plans and the democrats have not put forth any plan, that makes the dems the party of "no", doesn't it? Great leadership, Mr. President.

So you're okay with them waisting our time putting through bills that they know would never pass, just so they can say they did do something, so little sheep on message boards will repeat it, even though they knew it would never pass?

Just Alex · 07-25-2011, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Without Bft3k's daily idiotic and simple minded diatribes about how he hates the right while pretending to be objective or even having a clue about what's going on, how else are the gfi residents going to get their laughs?

I get mine by reading some 28 yo kid named David Barsky pretending to be hardcore Republican without paying a dime in taxes and living in his immigrant mom's house in Houston. Works every time.

directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The fact that you are Canadian and do NOTHING but talk about the USA is a little disturbing. People here should be worried that you're going to be attacking a government office bldg in the near future.

Just FYI , the USA situation has an influence on many countries ... just as the Greece situation ...

If your country would colapse WITHOUT any repercussions to the rest of the world, then I would not give a shit ..

But since you are invaders, war mongers and religious fanatics, it does influence my life and concerns me .

.. and correct the ignorance of some of the WTT here is fun ... mainly when they do not accept to being brought back to facts ...
PS: I have a US corp doing business in the USA as an alien non resident.
I also own fully paid a condo in Pompano Beach ( Florida ) where I pay taxes .

How about you ... ???

The Demon · 07-25-2011, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

I get mine by reading some 28 yo kid named David Barsky pretending to be hardcore Republican without paying a dime in taxes and living in his immigrant mom's house in Houston. Works every time.

I'm still surprised I have a stalking retard who still can't manage to get it right but I can see why the rest of gfy ignores you. Way to troll this thread though as I've mainly stayed out. Embarrassing yourself on a porn forum daily isn't what any of us consider as an accomplishment.

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But since you are invaders, war mongers and religious fanatics, it does influence my life and concerns me .

The fact that you sound like either a misguided hippie or retarded liberal arts major by that post, then calling someone else ignorant, is hysterical.

TheSquealer · 07-25-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Just FYI , the USA situation has an influence on many countries ... just as the Greece situation ...

You talk about US politics non stop. You talk about anything about the US non stop. It's practically your only topic of conversation. Almost always something that portrays the US in a negative light because you can't wait to draw attention to it for whatever reason.

Obviously the US has influence everywhere. The US however is far from the only country in serious financial trouble. So are almost all Western and Asian countries and many are much worse off than the US. Japan and China are far more fucked than the USA. However, that doesn't change the fact that your favorite topic of conversation is the USA, far left wing US politics, attacking US right wing politics or gleefully posting about anything that might portray the US in a negative light - like pointing out when a cop shoots someone or whatever mundane news is out that day.

Its fucking crazy how many Canadians have nothing to talk about beyond the USA and what the USA does that day. You do have your own country, your own retarded politicians, your own threats to free speech and most other articles of your own Constitution, your own bizarre news etc. Would be interesting to see Canadians here start acting as if they have their own country to worry about some day.

directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You talk about US politics non stop. You talk about anything about the US non stop. It's practically your only topic of conversation. Almost always something that portrays the US in a negative light because you can't wait to draw attention to it for whatever reason.

Obviously the US has influence everywhere. The US however is far from the only country in serious financial trouble. So are almost all Western and Asian countries and many are much worse off than the US. Japan and China are far more fucked than the USA. However, that doesn't change the fact that your favorite topic of conversation is the USA, far left wing US politics, attacking US right wing politics or gleefully posting about anything that might portray the US in a negative light - like pointing out when a cop shoots someone or whatever mundane news is out that day.

Its fucking crazy how many Canadians have nothing to talk about beyond the USA and what the USA does that day. You do have your own country, your own retarded politicians, your own threats to free speech and most other articles of your own Constitution, your own bizarre news etc. Would be interesting to see Canadians here start acting as if they have their own country to worry about some day.

World watches and hopes U.S. will avoid debt "suicide"

Not from me ...

BTW, please post the thread of "like pointing out when a cop shoots someone or whatever mundane news is out that day" ..

BTW, I have many threads started that are more like funny weird shit from the 4 corners of the world ... Politic thead are left to Vendzilla, wehere again I will correct the misquotes so-called facts ( like I did in this one ).

I cannot do much about your hurt " right-wing " feelings, but I was against the Iraq war from day one, looking for those WMD ... Sorry if I showed how much of a bunch of sheeps you guys were ....

The Demon · 07-25-2011, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You talk about US politics non stop. You talk about anything about the US non stop. It's practically your only topic of conversation. Almost always something that portrays the US in a negative light because you can't wait to draw attention to it for whatever reason.

Obviously the US has influence everywhere. The US however is far from the only country in serious financial trouble. So are almost all Western and Asian countries and many are much worse off than the US. Japan and China are far more fucked than the USA. However, that doesn't change the fact that your favorite topic of conversation is the USA, far left wing US politics, attacking US right wing politics or gleefully posting about anything that might portray the US in a negative light - like pointing out when a cop shoots someone or whatever mundane news is out that day.

Its fucking crazy how many Canadians have nothing to talk about beyond the USA and what the USA does that day. You do have your own country, your own retarded politicians, your own threats to free speech and most other articles of your own Constitution, your own bizarre news etc. Would be interesting to see Canadians here start acting as if they have their own country to worry about some day.

You forget, we are war mongers, murderers, racists, bigots, and anything else the extremely retarded and deluded left can come up with, as long as it lacks facts but elicits emotional responses.

sperbonzo · 07-25-2011, 07:34 AM

Why no DEBT Reduction Plan agreement yet? Obama wants to "lock in" the 33% increase in Government spending he and the 111th Congress initiated 22 months ago. This is also why they have not yet passed a budget in 2 years - They know that If you knew what they were spending, and on what... you would vote them out of office!

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directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You forget, we are war mongers, murderers, racists, bigots, and anything else the extremely retarded and deluded left can come up with, as long as it lacks facts but elicits emotional responses.

sophist .....

PS: ran out of emails ???? lick a stamp, spammer.

dyna mo · 07-25-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Just FYI , the USA situation has an influence on many countries ... just as the Greece situation ...

If your country would colapse WITHOUT any repercussions to the rest of the world, then I would not give a shit ..

But since you are invaders, war mongers and religious fanatics, it does influence my life and concerns me .

.. and correct the ignorance of some of the WTT here is fun ... mainly when they do not accept to being brought back to facts ...
PS: I have a US corp doing business in the USA as an alien non resident.
I also own fully paid a condo in Pompano Beach ( Florida ) where I pay taxes .

How about you ... ???

rest assured that whatthefuckever country it is you are living in will come RUNNING with cash in hand to help the u.s. if we ever need it.

you rode the gravy train up but when the going gets tough.......

directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

rest assured that whatthefuckever country it is you are living in will come RUNNING with cash in hand to help the u.s. if we ever need it.

you rode the gravy train up but when the going gets tough.......

hummm ... let's have a contest ...

<-------- first to guess gets a ... big ....

TheSquealer · 07-25-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

I cannot do much about your hurt " right-wing " feelings, but I was against the Iraq war from day one, looking for those WMD ... Sorry if I showed how much of a bunch of sheeps you guys were ....

I don't care about right or left. You are extreme liberal. It's your views that are not only biased against the US, but biased against one side of US politics. That makes it even weirder. Canada has politics too. I'm not Canadian, but i've heard this is the case. Try caring about whats going on in your own back yard. Or at least care about whats happening at home as much as you care about whats happening in another country (which is just plain weird)

The Demon · 07-25-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I don't care about right or left. You are extreme liberal. It's your views that are not only biased against the US, but biased against one side of US politics. That makes it even weirder. Canada has politics too. I'm not Canadian, but i've heard this is the case. Try caring about whats going on in your own back yard. Or at least care about whats happening at home as much as you care about whats happening in another country (which is just plain weird)

Don't you know better than to argue with a fool who couldn't get past high school? I get my daily laughs from gfy political threads

12clicks · 07-25-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Here's how many Republican Senators voted to raise the debt ceiling each time it came up for a vote since 1997.

1997: 55
2002: 31
2003: 50
2004: 50
2006: 51
2007: 26
2008: 34
2008: 33

Then Obama was elected.

2009: 2
2009: 1
2010: 0

Basically ANYTHING Obama is for - even when it was previously a GOP idea - gets voted down!

We are experiencing the worst obstructionist politics in our lifetime, and yet there are still dimwits out there, willing to vote Republican in the next election.

IDIOTS!

this is the same idiot argument used by all idiots.
When we were a mile away from the cliff, no one wanted to put on the breaks. now that we're about to go off the cliff, how dare they vote to apply the breaks. those evil republicans!"

and this rabble gets to vote.

Vendzilla · 07-25-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Obama, Democrats issue debt reduction plan without GOP

pretty clear :

Naturally, you cannot see that if you are avoiding the info ...

LOL, Reid said he was crafting his own new $2.7 trillion package of spending cuts

which means he's working on it and doesn't have anythng yet, Maybe you should look at your own info before posting

Robbie · 07-25-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Why no DEBT Reduction Plan agreement yet? Obama wants to "lock in" the 33% increase in Government spending he and the 111th Congress initiated 22 months ago. This is also why they have not yet passed a budget in 2 years - They know that If you knew what they were spending, and on what... you would vote them out of office!
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Unreal...he still wants to INCREASE spending?

directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Unreal...he still wants to INCREASE spending?

Yes... UNREAL ... because .... UNTRUE ....

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat, aims to raise the debt ceiling by $2.7 trillion, enough to cover the country's borrowing needs through the November 2012 elections. That would be paired with an equal amount in spending cuts over 10 years -- short of the $4 trillion in deficit savings that experts say would be necessary to keep debt at a sustainable level.

dyna mo · 07-25-2011, 10:30 AM

haven't we spent enough?

The first audit of the Federal Reserve by the GAO,has turned up $16 Trillion dollars of loans all over the world to prop up the global fiat empire.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/feds-...#ixzz1T8gqklGQ

Robbie · 07-25-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Yes... UNREAL ... because .... UNTRUE ....

Good...because that would be total insanity.

But as I've said over and over in this thread...the TINY cuts that they are wanting to do (which will of course keep all the politicians rolling in the money) are stupid too.

The Republicans want 4 trillion over TEN years. Reid wants 2.7 over TEN YEARS.

This is bullshit. They need to cut 4 trillion THIS YEAR. They are forecast to spend 303 BILLION dollars in August. And only bringing in 174 Billion. So while we have a huge national deficit...they are STILL using deficit spending every month.

And they want to "cut" the budget for the year by the amount they spend every MONTH?
WTF?

That shit wouldn't fly in my personal or business budget.

But our govt. is doing it. And you best believe that those career politicians (dems and repubs are the same damn thing) are living in luxury and making millions of dollars while they pad the pockets of their friends with taxpayer money.

They are still...today...spending almost twice as much every day as they bring in.

Just pure common sense would tell you to STOP that! And then address paying down the debt.

How in the hell are we EVER going to start paying one dollar on our debt if they keep spending twice as much as they bring in?

directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 11:04 AM

I agree .. the cuts are way too tiny and spead across a way too long period ...

Now, are the politicians AND the US Citizens ( inckuding the baggers ) ready to slash into :

- DOD
- Various wars that are not on the books ( on drugs, on gays, etc ... )
- Unemployment payments for those that should not receive them ( they are out of work because they left the job, were bad employees - late, bad attitude, .. - , are chronic abusers of the system )
- subsidies to various undeserving groups or again companies

and you can go on ...

Naturally, the Bush tax cuts should have been expired , but your president needs to grow a pair ...

tony286 · 07-25-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

I agree .. the cuts are way too tiny and spead across a way too long period ...

Now, are the politicians AND the US Citizens ( inckuding the baggers ) ready to slash into :

- DOD
- Various wars that are not on the books ( on drugs, on gays, etc ... )
- Unemployment payments for those that should not receive them ( they are out of work because they left the job, were bad employees - late, bad attitude, .. - , are chronic abusers of the system )
- subsidies to various undeserving groups or again companies

and you can go on ...

Naturally, the Bush tax cuts should have been expired , but your president needs to grow a pair ...

FYI you get fired or quit you dont get unemployment

sperbonzo · 07-25-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Yes... UNREAL ... because .... UNTRUE ....

Ok... as soon as Harry Reid ACTUALLY PUTS SOMETHING ON PAPER, then it can be analyzed. The Democrats have been very careful not to do that... Haven't you noticed?

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Just Alex · 07-25-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

I'm still surprised I have a stalking retard who still can't manage to get it right but I can see why the rest of gfy ignores you. Way to troll this thread though as I've mainly stayed out. Embarrassing yourself on a porn forum daily isn't what any of us consider as an accomplishment.

Are you busy spamming twitter accounts little David?
Im still interested in your skype bot. Is it still for sale? I'll trade you for my Bob Dole bumper sticker and $10. You can claim that on your 1040EZ in April. How does it feel to be this bad ass keyboard republican and then get up and see yourself as 28 year old loser living with his immigrant mom?

Just Alex · 07-25-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You forget, we are war mongers, murderers, racists, bigots, and anything else the extremely retarded and deluded left can come up with, as long as it lacks facts but elicits emotional responses.

"WE ARE"...

we as in '28 year old black hat kiddies making $50 bucks a day spamming twitter accounts' ? Shit, this kid is funny as hell.

Hey david, how's your hip-hop career going?

TheSquealer · 07-25-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Ok... as soon as Harry Reid ACTUALLY PUTS SOMETHING ON PAPER, then it can be analyzed. The Democrats have been very careful not to do that... Haven't you noticed?

.

He's Canadian. He's already noticing far more than any sane person should notice about another country, their political parties or what any particular member of our government is or isn't doing, believes or doesn't believe in or has voted or not voted on.

The Demon · 07-25-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

"WE ARE"...

we as in '28 year old black hat kiddies making $50 bucks a day spamming twitter accounts' ? Shit, this kid is funny as hell.

Hey david, how's your hip-hop career going?

Wow, 2 consecutive posts prove my point. So I'm either 27 or 28, law school, business school, or an aspiring hip hop artist? And this failure of a human being wonders why he gets no respect in his own industry? LOL.. Also, i'll keep paying the 30% in taxes so mentally challenged people such as yourself don't need to struggle just to get by on galleries. Keep using that public transportation though

Robbie · 07-25-2011, 01:55 PM

Watching all the fights going on between everybody in this thread just proves that the U.S. govt. are playing all of us like puppets on a string.

Everyone is falling for their deception while they do the REAL dirty work and none of us can see it.

Think of them like a con artist or magician. They hold up something for you to see and concentrate on with one hand...while their other hand is doing something completely different.

Things aren't gonna change until we all realize it's a game they are playing on us. There are no "republicans" or "democrats"...there are just career politicians who are part of the money grab in Washington.

And as long as they can create these fantasy "disagreements" and keep the entire country distracted with fighting each other in arguments about these make-believe debates...then they can continue the rape of our nation.

Who knows? Maybe this time they WILL tax the fuck out of the remaining corporations and drive them 100% out of the country. Or maybe this time they will go the other way and "reform the tax code"...it's all bullshit.
In the end...the POLITICIANS are the ones causing all of this. And it is to their benefit. The more dependent we are...the more power they have.

But y'all just keep on arguing...

tony286 · 07-25-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Actually Robbie, the Democrats fucked themselves especially the President and the public can take action in different ways. I'll be the first to admit I bought into hope and change and all that BS.

Raising the debt limit for me was not the issue because we've missed many actual deadlines in the past by months and nothing happened. As mentioned, this was just a spin by the President using fear and uncertainty to push his own political gains or reelection.

Telling the American public via the Fed chair, press secretary, and himself that all hell will break lose in the markets and people won't get their SSI if a deal was not arranged by Today. It didn't.

In short, he lied and took a gamble and lost miserably because the presidents only job in this issue is to sign the bill or not, regardless if it's on time or not. This tells me he does not have the ability to lead correctly when his delivery method is fear and uncertainty in a scared market that had ZERO purpose other then his own political gains.

Fuck him - he just lost my vote.

Your kidding right? He is the first president not getting clean two line raise the debt ceiling bill. He isnt selling fear he has no fucking spine. That's why the right controls the message.They dont raise the debt , shit will happen dont kid yourself. The interest rate of the Gov debt and all our debts will go up dramatically. But hey no tax increases for the rich. The donors have to be protected at all costs to the country.

Tom_PM · 07-25-2011, 02:43 PM

They want the fight, not the deal.

Robbie · 07-25-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Your kidding right? He is the first president not getting clean two line raise the debt ceiling bill. He isnt selling fear he has no fucking spine. That's why the right controls the message.They dont raise the debt , shit will happen dont kid yourself. The interest rate of the Gov debt and all our debts will go up dramatically. But hey no tax increases for the rich. The donors have to be protected at all costs to the country.

Well, I guess we are gonna see if that really happens. As I understand it...the "deadlines" have been missed in past times as well and nothing happened. I'm pretty sure this "deadline" to put ourselves in even further debt...er, I mean save the country via raising the "debt ceiling" is just something that they make up anyway. At least that is what all the politicians and ex-administration officials are saying on CNN.

I sure hope you are wrong on this Tony. Because I personally am sickened by the amounts of money they are still borrowing TODAY. Today they will spend about a billion dollars. And they will "only" take in 500 million dollars.

So you see...they aren't even really addressing the real problem: Spending more than they have.

2MuchMark · 07-25-2011, 03:15 PM

Jesus H Christ:

The Dot-com bubble burst on March 10th 2000.
By March 20th, Nasdaq had lost more than 10% from its peak.

By 2001 the crash was going on at full speed and almost 5 Trillion of market value was lost. The US was in recession for 8 months, from March to November 2001, ending 10 years of growth.

Up until this time, The US Government had a surplus, not a deficit, thanks to Clinton. When GW Bush took office, he spent the entire surplus. People still got their checks because the US was able to borrow. There was never any argument about raising the debt ceiling at this time and there was no reason then to not raise it, just like there is no reason today not to raise it.

The markets did not rally "4 months later" but instead almost 24 months later. At the peak in 2000, Nasdaq was at 5000 but fell to less than 1000 by 2003 before it started to turn around.

IllTestYourGirls · 07-25-2011, 03:31 PM

Congress already passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Why are the democrats and Obama stopping it from passing the Senate?

Just Alex · 07-25-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wow, 2 consecutive posts prove my point. So I'm either 27 or 28, law school, business school, or an aspiring hip hop artist? And this failure of a human being wonders why he gets no respect in his own industry? LOL.. Also, i'll keep paying the 30% in taxes so mentally challenged people such as yourself don't need to struggle just to get by on galleries. Keep using that public transportation though

Ah, the beauty of internet. You can live with your mom, wear your wife beater shirt on the street, be on your moms tax return as a 28 year old dependent, yet when you hit that keyboard you're a law school grad paying 30% tax and donating thousands to GOP guys.
Kid, let me just do one more thing to bring you back to reality my little mentally challenged friend with very small penis. This is the real you.

You can join a gym and lose a few pounds, maybe buy a better shirt, but you will always have that face and IQ of 65. No matter how hard you try on teh internets, you will always be that little lowlife immigrant offspring who achieved absolutely nothing.
People aren't laughing with you. They are laughing at you. You know it and I know it.
There's reason why you went and deleted your personal date from other forums as soon as that guy owned you sorry fat ass. Happy Jewish Halloween, assclown !!!

For those not so many that care, this is how our Republican wannabe looks like in real life.

digitaldivas · 07-25-2011, 04:03 PM

Wow kids, this has turned into quite the thread, hasn't it

marketsmart · 07-25-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Watching all the fights going on between everybody in this thread just proves that the U.S. govt. are playing all of us like puppets on a string.

Everyone is falling for their deception while they do the REAL dirty work and none of us can see it.

Think of them like a con artist or magician. They hold up something for you to see and concentrate on with one hand...while their other hand is doing something completely different.

Things aren't gonna change until we all realize it's a game they are playing on us. There are no "republicans" or "democrats"...there are just career politicians who are part of the money grab in Washington.

And as long as they can create these fantasy "disagreements" and keep the entire country distracted with fighting each other in arguments about these make-believe debates...then they can continue the rape of our nation.

Who knows? Maybe this time they WILL tax the fuck out of the remaining corporations and drive them 100% out of the country. Or maybe this time they will go the other way and "reform the tax code"...it's all bullshit.
In the end...the POLITICIANS are the ones causing all of this. And it is to their benefit. The more dependent we are...the more power they have.

But y'all just keep on arguing...

until this one side vs the other ends in the peoples minds, things will remain the same..

i am really starting to like the vibe of people here drilling this fact into peoples heads..

there are not 2 sides in govt anymore..

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Robbie · 07-25-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

there are not 2 sides in govt anymore..
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And I don't think there was EVER supposed to be only 2 "sides" to begin with.

The Republican and Democratic parties have taken over our govt. plain and simple.

"The United States Constitution has never formally addressed the issue of political parties. The Founding Fathers did not originally intend for American politics to be partisan. In Federalist Papers No. 9 and No. 10, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, respectively, wrote specifically about the dangers of domestic political factions. In addition, the first President of the United States, George Washington, was not a member of any political party at the time of his election or throughout his tenure as president. Furthermore, he hoped that political parties would not be formed, fearing conflict and stagnation"

These days the govt. controlled media tells us that ANY candidate who isn't a Republican or a Democrat is not a "serious candidate" and can not win an election. And we're all conditioned to believe that and so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

TheSquealer · 07-25-2011, 07:01 PM

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Jesus H Christ:

Up until this time, The US Government had a surplus, not a deficit, thanks to Clinton.

haha. yeah, Clinton caused the .com boom and caused runaway investment online, retarded online advertising spending to be 2-3 years away from growing larger than the GDP of the country itself and caused companies without business plans or products or services to do IPOs and raise 10s of millions from thin air. Clinton is a genius. Weird that no one has been able to duplicate all that or that Clinton didn't share his secrets and point Bush to the "make the economy grow super fast, as the nation rushes online" button... instead Bush had to deal with Iraq invading Kuwait and the market adjusting to the .com reality rather than the .com fantasy Clinton was able to enjoy.

marketsmart · 07-25-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

And I don't think there was EVER supposed to be only 2 "sides" to begin with.

The Republican and Democratic parties have taken over our govt. plain and simple.

"The United States Constitution has never formally addressed the issue of political parties. The Founding Fathers did not originally intend for American politics to be partisan. In Federalist Papers No. 9 and No. 10, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, respectively, wrote specifically about the dangers of domestic political factions. In addition, the first President of the United States, George Washington, was not a member of any political party at the time of his election or throughout his tenure as president. Furthermore, he hoped that political parties would not be formed, fearing conflict and stagnation"

These days the govt. controlled media tells us that ANY candidate who isn't a Republican or a Democrat is not a "serious candidate" and can not win an election. And we're all conditioned to believe that and so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

i am really digging your posts lately...

i wish more people would "get it"....

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directfiesta · 07-25-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

haha. yeah, Clinton caused the .com boom and caused runaway investment online, retarded online advertising spending to be 2-3 years away from growing larger than the GDP of the country itself and caused companies without business plans or products or services to do IPOs and raise 10s of millions from thin air. Clinton is a genius. Weird that no one has been able to duplicate all that or that Clinton didn't share his secrets and point Bush to the "make the economy grow super fast, as the nation rushes online" button... instead Bush had to deal with Iraq invading Kuwait and the market adjusting to the .com reality rather than the .com fantasy Clinton was able to enjoy.

lol ...ha.

This is why I said you were an ignorant ...

After Clinton, it was Bush Jr ( Dubya, theShrub .. ) , not Bush 1.

Bush 1 dealt with Iraq after it ' invaded' Kuwait...

Bush Jr just invaded a country because god told him to ...

Get your ' facts ' straight .... mainly since you are an American ...

TheSquealer · 07-26-2011, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

lol ...ha.

This is why I said you were an ignorant ...

After Clinton, it was Bush Jr ( Dubya, theShrub .. ) , not Bush 1.

Bush 1 dealt with Iraq after it ' invaded' Kuwait...

Bush Jr just invaded a country because god told him to ...

Get your ' facts ' straight .... mainly since you are an American ...

Are you posting from a group home for the developmentally disabled or what? All i said was "Bush" you fucking idiot. Everyone can figure out which being that its quite obvious given the context of the remarks and who was President when Iraq invaded Kuwait,... well, everyone can figure it out except you apparently, who requires the added details and specificity because you're too fucking dumb and too eager to make fun of others for any and every reason.

Funny when a retard can't wait to call people a retard. Stop projecting and start working on your own self improvement.

directfiesta · 07-26-2011, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Are you posting from a group home for the developmentally disabled or what? All i said was "Bush" you fucking idiot. Everyone can figure out which being that its quite obvious given the context of the remarks and who was President when Iraq invaded Kuwait,... well, everyone can figure it out except you apparently, who requires the added details and specificity because you're too fucking dumb and too eager to make fun of others for any and every reason.

Funny when a retard can't wait to call people a retard. Stop projecting and start working on your own self improvement.

what a spin... You basically indicted that Bush 2 had to go in Iraq because he jusat invaded Kuwait...

Spin as you wish, same shit comes out :

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... Clinton didn't share his secrets and point Bush to the "make the economy grow super fast, as the nation rushes online" button... instead Bush had to deal with Iraq invading Kuwait and the market adjusting to the .com reality rather than the .com fantasy Clinton was able to enjoy.

same gvuy hgad to deal with Iraq invading kuwait and also deal at the same time with the .com bubble ... or is it Bush senior that had to deal with the .com bubble - like in back to the future ... ) ...

BFT3K · 07-26-2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

until this one side vs the other ends in the peoples minds, things will remain the same..

i am really starting to like the vibe of people here drilling this fact into peoples heads..

there are not 2 sides in govt anymore...

Well, once a "Populace People Party" emerges as a viable option, let me know.

In the meantime we only have a 2 party system...

One side answers to the richest 2% of the country, while bamboozling the rest of their racist sheep through propaganda, and the other side actually gives a shit about the country as a whole.

sperbonzo · 07-26-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Well, once a "Populace People Party" emerges as a viable option, let me know.

In the meantime we only have a 2 party system...

One side answers to the richest 2% of the country, while bamboozling the rest of their racist sheep through propaganda, and the other side actually gives a shit about the country as a whole.

Wow.... You really do live in a fantasy kool aid world don't you?

I didn't realize how much, but..... wow. You are a lost cause.

I hope for your sake that someday you wake up from dreamland...and that it's not too rude of an awakening.

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07-24-2011, 08:24 PM	#154
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	You guys are all fighting with each other and getting pissed at companies making a profit. Who we should ALL be pissed at is the govt. THEY are the ones just printing money as they need it and spending it on anything they want. At least a company EARNED their money. I think this is one of the ways the govt. gets away with this bullshit. By turning us on ourselves. By the way...it doesn't matter if it's the Republicans FOUR TRILLION dollar "reduction" or Obama's 2.7 TRILLION reduction... They both are OVER A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS. In other words, even if future congress and presidents 10 years from now actually stick with it...it still will only be 400 billion a year for the Republican plan and 270 billion a year for Obama's plan. And that is just about how much the govt. spends in ONE MONTH. Guys, stop arguing about "republicans" or "democrats" or economic theories...it's all bullshit. MONEY & POWER is the name of this game. And it's the politicians who are playing us all like puppets on a string. They are ALL the same. And they are the ones to blame. Not me, not you, and not people who become successful through hard work. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

07-25-2011, 07:34 AM	#165
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	Why no DEBT Reduction Plan agreement yet? Obama wants to "lock in" the 33% increase in Government spending he and the 111th Congress initiated 22 months ago. This is also why they have not yet passed a budget in 2 years - They know that If you knew what they were spending, and on what... you would vote them out of office! . __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

07-25-2011, 11:04 AM	#177
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,609	I agree .. the cuts are way too tiny and spead across a way too long period ... Now, are the politicians AND the US Citizens ( inckuding the baggers ) ready to slash into : - DOD - Various wars that are not on the books ( on drugs, on gays, etc ... ) - Unemployment payments for those that should not receive them ( they are out of work because they left the job, were bad employees - late, bad attitude, .. - , are chronic abusers of the system ) - subsidies to various undeserving groups or again companies and you can go on ... Naturally, the Bush tax cuts should have been expired , but your president needs to grow a pair ... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

07-25-2011, 01:55 PM	#184
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Watching all the fights going on between everybody in this thread just proves that the U.S. govt. are playing all of us like puppets on a string. Everyone is falling for their deception while they do the REAL dirty work and none of us can see it. Think of them like a con artist or magician. They hold up something for you to see and concentrate on with one hand...while their other hand is doing something completely different. Things aren't gonna change until we all realize it's a game they are playing on us. There are no "republicans" or "democrats"...there are just career politicians who are part of the money grab in Washington. And as long as they can create these fantasy "disagreements" and keep the entire country distracted with fighting each other in arguments about these make-believe debates...then they can continue the rape of our nation. Who knows? Maybe this time they WILL tax the fuck out of the remaining corporations and drive them 100% out of the country. Or maybe this time they will go the other way and "reform the tax code"...it's all bullshit. In the end...the POLITICIANS are the ones causing all of this. And it is to their benefit. The more dependent we are...the more power they have. But y'all just keep on arguing... __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

07-25-2011, 02:43 PM	#186
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	They want the fight, not the deal. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

07-25-2011, 10:30 AM	#175
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,077	haven't we spent enough? The first audit of the Federal Reserve by the GAO,has turned up $16 Trillion dollars of loans all over the world to prop up the global fiat empire. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/feds-...#ixzz1T8gqklGQ

07-25-2011, 03:15 PM	#188
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 49,150	Jesus H Christ: The Dot-com bubble burst on March 10th 2000. By March 20th, Nasdaq had lost more than 10% from its peak. By 2001 the crash was going on at full speed and almost 5 Trillion of market value was lost. The US was in recession for 8 months, from March to November 2001, ending 10 years of growth. Up until this time, The US Government had a surplus, not a deficit, thanks to Clinton. When GW Bush took office, he spent the entire surplus. People still got their checks because the US was able to borrow. There was never any argument about raising the debt ceiling at this time and there was no reason then to not raise it, just like there is no reason today not to raise it. The markets did not rally "4 months later" but instead almost 24 months later. At the peak in 2000, Nasdaq was at 5000 but fell to less than 1000 by 2003 before it started to turn around. __________________ Custom Coding \| Videochat Solutions \| Age Verification \| IT Help & Support www.2Much.net

07-25-2011, 03:31 PM	#189
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	Congress already passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling. Why are the democrats and Obama stopping it from passing the Senate? __________________

07-25-2011, 04:03 PM	#191
digitaldivas ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,328	Wow kids, this has turned into quite the thread, hasn't it __________________ ...