Why tubes will eventually FAIL - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

munki · 07-22-2011, 01:37 PM

fiddy adapt or dies

lazycash · 07-22-2011, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Tubes didn't get going till 2000 and pretty much done by 2008.

Huh, what in the world are you talking about? Are you confusing MGPs with tubes? The proliferation of tubes didn't really get going till 2006 and they are still going strong, nothing is "done" as you put it.

harvey · 07-22-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRingo

1. Bandwidth cost money. As more and more tube sites use provided content, the content providers will realize they aren't getting the bang for the buck and will pull embed content and the like. Even the tube sites that host their own videos will feel the pinch.

(this is where you add to this discussion...)

WarChild · 07-22-2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

Huh, what in the world are you talking about? Are you confusing MGPs with tubes? The proliferation of tubes didn't really get going till 2006 and they are still going strong, nothing is "done" as you put it.

Typical Paul.

In reality Youtube launches early 2005, adult tubes begin to follow shortly afterwards.

In Paul land, Adult tubes pre-date youtube by 5 years and were done in 2008.

TheDoc · 07-22-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Without figures it's all Blah, Blah.

I'm not disputing you. I'm saying no one has ever shown any figures.

Did you read this in my post?

I guess you went for the smart ass reply.

They obviously make money, otherwise they would die off.

Do sponsors pay to get videos on them?

Will sites continue to buy ad space?

Will you talk sense and come up with a real reply?

Do you have a Tube and the figures or just guessing (proof required for the affirmative).

One thing we have all learned in the last few years is this business changes faster than we can predict.

Well, you can contact a few of the major brokers and ask them what the rates are.... many will tell you without an nda, other sites require one. I also posted some numbers up above, which is the same thing you will hear from them, other than it does go cheaper as well of course. And yes, I have purchased traffic from them.

Yes, some tubes do sell video slots, yes some sponsors pay for them.

Yes, they will buy ad space because they have people that buy by the mass amounts daily.

If you follow technology, you'll be able to predict the direction porn goes in.

pornmasta · 07-22-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

1. Adobe is trying to implement p2p into flash video. Bandwidth costs for tubes will drop substancially while traffic remains the same.

P2p means lol

lazycash · 07-22-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

P2p means lol

Worked just fine for Chatroulette

johnnyloadproductions · 07-22-2011, 07:29 PM

Tubes will never go completely away. Creative people with figure how to add on the the tubes and make them more robust and applicable to todays people floating around on mobile devices.

WebCashMaker · 07-22-2011, 10:04 PM

What is Bandwidth ?

lazycash · 07-23-2011, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild

Typical Paul.

In reality Youtube launches early 2005, adult tubes begin to follow shortly afterwards.

In Paul land, Adult tubes pre-date youtube by 5 years and were done in 2008.

I avoided reading his posts for years on here because it was nothing but long winded drivel. Now that I've read a few of his posts lately I realize his version of the chronology of online adult is 90% erroneous. Because he failed at being able to generate and monetize traffic profitably he assumes everyone else has also.

brentbacardi · 07-23-2011, 03:12 PM

Im sorry but half the posters in this thread have no clue.... well actually I am not sorry, thats just a fact... now moving on...

FACT:

Bandwidth costs are shit compared to how much money a tube site can bring in. Using your arguments, Google should be out of business because of the insane bandwidth they use up... but yeah... no... they are still in business because bandwidth costs are shit compared to the income of proper monetization of that traffic.

topnotch, standup guy · 07-23-2011, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Tubes will never go completely away.

No but a whole boatload of honest webmasters have

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nikki99 · 07-23-2011, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker

What is Bandwidth ?

DBS.US · 07-23-2011, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCashMaker

What is Bandwidth ?

JBlack · 07-23-2011, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS.... no one who has been around since at least 1999 would dare make a statement like the one this guy did..... im embarrassed for him....

CurrentlySober · 07-29-2011, 01:15 AM

tubes taste nice

harvey · 07-29-2011, 01:30 AM

harvey · 07-29-2011, 01:31 AM

harvey · 07-29-2011, 01:32 AM

harvey · 07-29-2011, 01:33 AM

marlboroack · 07-29-2011, 01:35 AM

harvey · 07-29-2011, 01:36 AM

Waiter · 07-29-2011, 07:14 AM

What is "Tubes" ?

JohnRingo · 07-31-2011, 07:39 PM

this is awesome...

and if this is awesome...

then i am awesome...

and while tubes will forever be a part of the game like TGP...

tubes will fail...

DBS.US · 07-31-2011, 07:45 PM

AnimeFevers · 07-31-2011, 07:58 PM

I have tubes and they seem to NOT be failing but growing.

SomeCreep · 07-31-2011, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee

Django · 08-01-2011, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Has anyone ever made a post where absolutely no one agrees with them?

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My Pimp · 08-01-2011, 02:41 AM

Interesting topic.

Emma · 08-01-2011, 03:10 AM

porn tubes are out of this world

FeelMyTube · 08-01-2011, 04:40 AM

Anyone staying out of tubes is missing the whole point.

Technology and specially bandwith are getting cheaper and cheaper, still a lot of people miss this point. This was one of the key reasons for me to start a tube in 2008.

Your concern is like thinking you shouldn't develop programs that use a lot of disk space because you were limited to floppy disks.

Paul Markham · 08-01-2011, 06:40 AM

I mistakingly type Tubes when I should of typed TGP and the whole world of trolldem is made happier.

Tubes need to make a certain number sales, absolutely have to, to cover the cost of hosting, BW and any other costs. If they're so low as to need only a few sales in 100,000 views. Then this industry is fucked.

There's no point in hanging around, even if you're a Tube owner. Because the chance of getting a sale will become smaller and smaller and your BW will grow.

Can you survive on promoting a only webcam or dating sites?

Feelmytube is doing so well with his Tube that converts 1:276 he's selling it. Isn't is wiser to hang on to this site?

This business needs sales, sales are king. If paysites go the way they are, I hope you can rely on webcam or dating sites. Assuming someone doesn't put up another MFC site and lawyers don't realise a lot of adult orientated dating sites are scams and a cash cow.

How long ago was it everyone was spreading money like a pimping millionaire and now gone from the business?

lazycash · 08-01-2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I mistakingly type Tubes when I should of typed TGP and the whole world of trolldem is made happier.

Tubes need to make a certain number sales, absolutely have to, to cover the cost of hosting, BW and any other costs. If they're so low as to need only a few sales in 100,000 views. Then this industry is fucked.

There's no point in hanging around, even if you're a Tube owner. Because the chance of getting a sale will become smaller and smaller and your BW will grow.

Can you survive on promoting a only webcam or dating sites?

Feelmytube is doing so well with his Tube that converts 1:276 he's selling it. Isn't is wiser to hang on to this site?

This business needs sales, sales are king. If paysites go the way they are, I hope you can rely on webcam or dating sites. Assuming someone doesn't put up another MFC site and lawyers don't realise a lot of adult orientated dating sites are scams and a cash cow.

How long ago was it everyone was spreading money like a pimping millionaire and now gone from the business?

The demise of tgps had nothing to do with them giving away free content and everything to do with more and more consumers phasing out of dialup to cable/dsl and thus driven away from picture content and on to video. (tubes)

JohnRingo · 08-01-2011, 08:52 AM

they asked me if i had anything to declare....

only my genius

Django · 08-05-2011, 05:15 AM

what is profit?

JohnRingo · 08-05-2011, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Django

what is profit?

profit is revenue less expenses

Agent 488 · 08-06-2011, 10:08 AM

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