What if the economy dies?

USA was downgraded this week.

The EU could crash.

What if DVTimes died?

Would anyone notice?

USA was downgraded this week.

the usa was downgraded to what this week?

A small island in the pacific. Pay attention!

that would be shitty (calling CurrentlySober...)

buy gold and your safe from the bullshit

what is this a picture of, and what significance does it have here?

Now your talking my language. If the world goes to shit guns and ammo will be the new currency. However for the same money spent on these weapons I could buy 10 pistol grip shotguns for $169 each, and how many boxes of 100 shotgun shells from wallmart for $24 a box? My personal stash is 1 AK47, 9mm,380, 7 shotguns. Ammo prolly 1000 rounds for all but the shotguns, I have like 50 boxes of 100 count 12 guage shells. Shotguns will be the king of the world if we have a apocalypse. My two cents lol

I am not the doom and gloom type because it's free to hope for the best, but costs to plan for the worst. Also, being a homeowner with a invested retirement, you tend to lean towards government propaganda to bring collective confidence to the markets and to normalize society. WTS, there are very clear signs we're in a lot of trouble that won't be recognized by most Americans.

New Police manufactured fear for mass control.
Feds masquerading terrorist prevention to instill fear.
Useless wars to generate patriotic fervor and occupy the violent.
Politicians who grab for their corporate lobbying interest only.
Corporations who dictate tax terms, or lack of with threats of layoffs.
Massive debt that can't be paid back in three life-times.
President who lacks true leadership skills.
Federal Reserve who'll print more money regardless.
The public occupied with massive debt themselves, terrified.

A crash in inevitable because we are too far in debt as Americans bought into hope and change out of desperation. There were lot's of intelligent Jews who were marched off to their deaths with the same, hope and change ideology.

Obviously, it won't be that severe, but the concept of things will get better, with no positive direction option is just stupid. Society is degrading because we don't trust our policing, banks, politicians, the system, and sadly, each other.

As we go to work everyday to hang on to our financial and personal responsibilities we are oblivious that a crash is inevitable or how severe it will be. Again, the signs are clear as slow deliberate changes are occurring to prepare for the sudden fall.

That's how it's going to happen. You'll wake up one day and it's all over and they'll be chaos, anger, rioting, violence, and vigilantism. After all this subsides Americans will come together and understand a huge debt burden has been lifted. We'll spring back stronger with new rules in place, true confident leaders, and fresh memories of the worst case scenario. In this process we'll separate those who felt entitlements were their right, as they will suffer the worst being ostracized with public blame. In the end - we'll be stronger and wiser.

You see this was all planned by the rest of the world because we Americans grew displaced with entitlements causing our debt. As the rest of the world rebuilt from failed wars and political ideologies we grew fat and arrogant with confidence being the world reserve currency. Again, as the rest of the world understand the worst case scenario, our government turned into gangsters with our military and lost focus on how to generate stabilized true wealth. Meaning, why earn it when you can steal/exploit it and live in excess.

The crash will happen like this. Currently, there is a war going on between the dollar and the Euro. The debt ceiling debauchery is a well organized plan to see who blinks first because whomever holds out the longest gets to go on as normal. If the Euro fails it will only revalue the dollar as the worlds reserve and open up new markets in failed economies ie., a rally.

If the dollar fails the world will switch to a basket currency reserve with the Euro leading the way. I am certain this is what the rest of the world wants and to be honest, it's actually a good plan and inevitably the future.

spot on...

but the sheep will call you a tinfoil hat...

if the shit does hit the fan at some point, those sheep will be slaughtered by guys like me with lots of guns...





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i like you. i hope your post-armageddon doomsday survival plan is well-thought out, implemented and has training in place and includes as many of your neighbors as possible. otherwise you too will run over by the hoard. it takes A LOT more than guns & ammo to be one of those shoot em up post armageddon dudes.

that would be shitty (calling CurrentlySober...)

i doubt it would happen, but hyper inflation could be just around the corner. better sell out on stocks fast, they will tank quickly

i like you. i hope your post-armageddon doomsday survival plan is well-thought out, implemented and has training in place and includes as many of your neighbors as possible. otherwise you too will run over by the hoard. it takes A LOT more than guns & ammo to be one of those shoot em up post armageddon dudes.

i picture myself more like mad max... a loner... traveling the wasteland with my trusty dogs... fucking shit up along the way and getting into adventures...

but i would probably end up at my parents place who have a natural spring, lots of land, and all the neighbors are well armed and would support each other..

i doubt it would ever get this crazy. i think we would tell china to go fuck themselves first and just get on with WW3...




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My girlfriend made a comment, and I am starting to think she's right.

Take money out of the bank. If something "goes wrong", money will be good, but only for a little while. If you can't get your money out of the bank, you will have no window to buy food / water / fuel etc.

I don't think it will happen, but better safe than sorry.

i'm planning on joining up with a zombie outfit.

you know how hard it is to kill a zombie? pfft. + safety in #s, zombies travel in hoards. + no need to be on the defense, no one is ever after a zombie's shit, zombies are on the offense.... so why stock up and worry now when the natural survivor is the zombie.

thats the obvious choice if there's a full scale nuclear war...

but once you joined up with the zombies and then turned you, i dont think you would even know who you are anymore..

please get some identifying tattoo on your face, so if i run into you and your zombie buddies, i will spare your life...

unless you give me that look that some zombies give when they want you to end their pain...





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