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PR_Glen 07-15-2011 07:23 AM

i get the same boost taking some extra chewable vitamin c tablets in a day but I think it is helping me more with my histamine levels and my sleep more than anything else. Injections are just a gateway from you taking other more harmful less regulated shit.. why go down that path when you don't need to? Internet guy has a point, a little (in food) goes a long way. Obviously if you have an intestinal problem that changes things but the rest of you are just jerking off.

Barry-xlovecam 07-15-2011 07:24 AM

B12 is relatively harmless I take 1000mg b.i.d. (2x day) with my physician's approval ...

B6 neuropathy B6 in large amounts can be dangerous

woj 07-15-2011 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18284297)
B12 is relatively harmless I take 1000mg b.i.d. (2x day) with my physician's approval ...

B6 neuropathy B6 in large amounts can be dangerous

you mean 1000mcg? 1000mg is a ridiculously high dose...

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Choopa Phil 07-15-2011 07:37 AM

1000mcg 1x a week for B12 shots, you can get a 30ml bottle for about 30 bux and it will last you half a year. 1 dollar per shot vs 15 or 20 from a dr or pharmacy

NetHorse 07-15-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18283753)

Found out a testerone test is $39. Going to get one because I've always wondered if being so sick as a teen could have fucked that up.

Please do not do that man.

Hormonal replacement therapy, (HRT, or TRT) is not something you fuck around with. You will create an even worse imbalance if you go out and get just one shot of test without committing to a dosage and regimen.

When bodybuilders take it, they take high doses for 10-12 weeks followed by a SERM, (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) which jump-starts their endocrine system to start producing natural testosterone again. When you supplement your body with testosterone from an outside source it 'shuts down' your natural test production.

Someone with a testosterone deficiency would take a small weekly dose to be within normal range. Generally it's a long-term commitment or in cycles determined by your endocrinologists depending on your health and other factors.

If you take just one shot, you will be fine for one week, (roughly the half life of a shot of test) and then you will SHUTDOWN.

Go see your primary, have him refer you to an endocrinologist, get your levels checked then discuss the advantages of doing hormonal replacement therapy. It is not something you just go out and try because you're feeling sluggish.

BlackCrayon 07-15-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18284408)
Good lord man, do not do that.

Hormonal replacement therapy, (HRT, or TRT) is not something you fuck around with. You don't just take a shot for $39 and take one again when you feel like it.

When bodybuilders take it, (for example) they take high doses for 10-12 weeks followed by a SERM, (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) which jump-starts your endocrine system to start producing natural testosterone again.

When someone has a testosterone deficiency takes it, they take a small dose to be within normal range. With replacement therapy it is more of a long-term deal or decided by endocrinologist.

If you take just one shot, you will be fine for one week, (rough half life of a shot of test) and then you will SHUTDOWN.

Go see your primary, have him refer you to an endocrinologist, get your levels checked then discuss the advantages of doing hormonal replacement. It is not something you just go out and try because you're feeling sluggish.

there are a number of people on the board who take that shit for non medical reasons. i know robbie is one of them. from what they say it sounds pretty interesting but yeah, if you start injecting yourself with it your body will no longer produce near the amounts it used to and when you stop, it doesn't just start producing normal amounts all of a sudden again.

96ukssob 07-15-2011 08:27 AM

doesnt your body build up a tolerance tho?

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Choopa Phil 07-15-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18284408)
Please do not do that man.

Hormonal replacement therapy, (HRT, or TRT) is not something you fuck around with. You will create an even worse imbalance if you go out and get just one shot of test without committing to a dosage and regimen.

When bodybuilders take it, they take high doses for 10-12 weeks followed by a SERM, (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator) which jump-starts their endocrine system to start producing natural testosterone again. When you supplement your body with testosterone from an outside source it 'shuts down' your natural test production.

Someone with a testosterone deficiency would take a small weekly dose to be within normal range. Generally it's a long-term commitment or in cycles determined by your endocrinologists depending on your health and other factors.

If you take just one shot, you will be fine for one week, (roughly the half life of a shot of test) and then you will SHUTDOWN.

Go see your primary, have him refer you to an endocrinologist, get your levels checked then discuss the advantages of doing hormonal replacement therapy. It is not something you just go out and try because you're feeling sluggish.

+1 to this post, except 1 shot wont shut you down, youd need a couple weeks worth. HCG is also ran with people who are on HRT as well at those who run proper cycles...it keeps the boys big and full

DaddyHalbucks 07-15-2011 08:40 AM

"B-12 is also unusual in that it is dependent upon a second substance, called intrinsic factor, to make its way from the "GI" tract (gastrointestinal tract--the stomach and intestines) into the rest of the body. Without intrinsic factor, which is a unique protein made in the stomach, vitamin B12 cannot gain access to the rest of the body where it is needed."

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...rient&dbid=107

That's why the shots are so good.

Choopa Phil 07-15-2011 08:56 AM

^ boom! this guys got it!

VikingMan 07-15-2011 10:23 AM

Hey epitome thanks for this thread. I checked a naturopath and she is giving them for $12 on Fridays. :thumbsup

http://seattlenaturopathiccenter.com/default.aspx

Barry-xlovecam 07-15-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 18284306)
you mean 1000mcg? 1000mg is a ridiculously high dose...

microgram mcg opps

NetHorse 07-15-2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 18284452)
+1 to this post, except 1 shot wont shut you down, youd need a couple weeks worth. HCG is also ran with people who are on HRT as well at those who run proper cycles...it keeps the boys big and full

Yeah you're right, a single shot probably wouldn't shut you down, but it would likely do more harm than good. :thumbsup

TheSquealer 07-15-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18284420)
if you start injecting yourself with it your body will no longer produce near the amounts it used to and when you stop, it doesn't just start producing normal amounts all of a sudden again.

uhmm.. yeah it does. your body will recover quite quickly with some variance depending on age, amounts, duration used etc. generally speaking, you will recover 100%

or you can just use something like HCG to jack natural production back up very quickly for a quick recovery. in fact, HCG alone, will also increase natural production substantially.

leg4 07-15-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18284310)
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NetHorse 07-15-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18285631)
uhmm.. yeah it does. your body will recover quite quickly with some variance depending on age, amounts, duration used etc. generally speaking, you will recover 100%

These two statements contradict each other. Yes you're right that age, dosage and duration will play a role in how long your body takes to recover, but you're wrong assuming everyone will recover 100% regardless of the factors above.

Hell, I know people who've taken 3-4 cycles of oral OTC prohormones like superdrol and M1T and their natural test levels never returned back to what they were, (even 6-12 months after PCT).

Even though in most cases your endocrine system will eventually recover to say it will recover 100% isn't an accurate statement to make.

Further more, the more important issue would be the damage done in between the time it takes for your endocrine system to start reproducing natural test. Gyno, heart conditions, brain function all suffer from very low testosterone levels in the body.

TheSquealer 07-15-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18285651)
These two statements contradict each other. Yes you're right that age, dosage and duration will play a role in how long your body takes to recover, but you're wrong assuming everyone will recover 100% regardless of the factors above.

Hell, I know people who've taken 3-4 cycles of oral OTC prohormones like superdrol and M1T and their natural test levels never returned back to what they were, (even 6-12 months after PCT).

Even though in most cases your endocrine system will eventually recover to say it will recover 100% isn't an accurate statement to make.

Further more, the more important issue would be the damage done in between the time it takes for your endocrine system to start reproducing natural test. Gyno, heart conditions, brain function all suffer from very low testosterone levels in the body.

There is no contradiction. Recovering quickly and recovering 100% are two completely different concepts. I said "generally speaking, your body will recover 100%". I did not say "its absolutely impossible that there aren't exceptions"

Generally, you will recover 100%. You can argue all you want about "100%" and obviously there might be exceptions for a variety of reasons. Other than that, you haven't provided any real information that can be either argued or verified other than "i've known some people..." Generally speaking, there are not going to be any issues for an average person to start injecting a significant amount of test each week and then stop - the only issue is the time it takes for natural production to recover, assuming you do nothing to aid in recovery and assuming you do recover (there is the possibility you won't). I do it all the time. I do full blood panels all the time. I have assloads of friends who do it all the time, a substantial % of bodybuilders do it regularly and its certainly more common than anyone seems to realize it is.

Gyno for the most part, is only an issue if one is genetically predisposed to getting it to begin with and only an issue if you are a tard and not taking an aromatase inhibitor just in case (depending again on quantity etc).

Powerful drugs are powerful. They need to be treated as such.

Brain function suffers from low blood sugar as well... big deal

Anyway, personally i am a huge fan of HRT (Test/HGH). The benefits far outweigh any risks when used correctly. In fact, when it comes to test and hgh, the benefits far outweigh the risks when flat out abused... assuming you can live with the slight risk of never being able to stop.


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