All of our software was custom coded in house. We currently have 8 in house coders. All project analysis is done in my head :)

Doc,

Looking for a *nix server admin by any chance ?







:winkwink:

He was high yes :P


Nice fucking post by the way. :thumbsup :thumbsup

* BOOM *

the penny just dropped... thanks for that....

think i got some work to do now :)

I copied and saved a lot of this thread... first time ever:thumbsup

Whats your email addy :) Or you can shoot me one below so I can reply.

ok

Doc ....

"3) Every single e-mail tracks, opens, clicks, niche clicks, days to open, revisits. We can start sending more than one e-mail based on different things they click on the e-mail or in the members area."

... how do you do this ?

... read in a tracking code from a bounce back subjest, add return recipts, send your emails as HTML with image/javascript tracking built into the page ... or other ?

The reason I ask of course is because I've been trying to think of a way to do that as well but I can see problems / inaccuracies with all the above so I'm hopeing it's "other" and you can elaborate.

TIA

easy if u are sending a html email.... place a web bug graphic that has in user id as the file name... this will give u the opens.... all links to sites from email have userid passed in the query string... set cookie... log each click on site... write some code that pushes back to email address more of the same that was clicked

I'll throw in $50 too! Does that buy us a minute?

:Graucho

#1: Marketing. You have to target & sell your shit to the surfer, not just throw a list of products out there.

#2: The retention is realistic. The problem is... you may have a niche paysite, and your surfers are:

a: Getting bored with the niches quick, they buy it, use it, and are done at the end of their trial period.

b: Maybe you just dont have the volume & quality cobination that is optimal, and rather than add a 'c' - maybe you just have a poorly laid out and/or confusing to navigate members area.

I am saying this ouut of experience, not as an attack.

BTW - Next time those of you that are doing 900 upsells in your members area, question why you dont make much... look around a bit.

If you pay your bills online at some provider, such as ATT wireless, you will see minor ads & closely related product suggestions on the pages. Not just something unrelated thrown out there, like you see in most unsuccessful adult areas.

good thread.. everyone should think before they post or ask Q's in this thread.

You might gleem a little k-base from it.

As a newbie to pay sites, I am almost speechless at some of the info you cats are dropping here. You guys make a newbie feel like a turd. LOL

I do OK on my own, but not 100+ sign ups a day. Jesus. On my best days I will hit 50 and do the "I hit 50 again" dance around my room. I would vomit if I checked at the end of the day and I had 150, or even yet 1200 sign ups.

Mad props to you guys for doing your thing and handling your business.

Now if you excuse me, I have a LOT of learning to do. :)

Very informative thread !

The BEST thread of the year IMO. :2 cents:

hell yes! he knows his shit inside out from top to bottom!!!!!! :thumbsup

Old thread, but still very good...

why are you running a little revshareprogram with no traffic today then?

he owns

Signup4Cash

DH--

I think about the exact same shit. If only I owned the programs I promote, I probably make 25% of whatever they make off my sites and traffic. Ugh!

from what i know ARS didn't collect emails at all ( even from the declined surfers )

I think these numbers worked in the old days but now you cant just buy a bunch of content and stock the member's areas.
My main expense is content by far which would wipe out most of the profit in that formula you laid out there.

$20 each per member email? Sweet shit you must know something I don't.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BUY EPOCH MEMBER EMAILS (WITH 1 CLICK INFO), CONTACT ME.

Much cheeper then $20 per.

ICQ: 315758375

best thread ever


to answer your question Donny gangsta

i doubt most programs ever go over 100 joins a day


200 joins a day will top off almost everyone

then you have some resp who bring in that themselves at some places
:Graucho

Wow I always thought 100 joins a day was low as hell

so you dont think ND get more then 200 joins/day? :Graucho

whoever bumped this thread, thank you very much.

VERY informative

thanks again.

man this thread was a long time ago.. things have changed a lot since then

true most programs don't do over 100 joins a day if you mean most as in more than 50% of programs. but lots of programs do over 100 and 200 joins a day - some are sites and programs most people don't know about.

haha.of course they do more

i think everyone knows who is doing the big volume

of course there are others who will suprise you

I like your sites. You'll generate better numbers over time.

I didn't notice the date on it myself when I first started reading it. I was thinking "what the fuck?"

still some great information in the thread though........

Great information...but that was before the spam laws...i suspect things are quite different today.....most pps program will still be in the hole after 2 months though...

holy fuck, i thought this is a new thread

it was great when you could just throw up a site with bought content and not have to factor $35k a month into your bills for new vids....surfers expect alot of original content now. If you dont have it you arent going to do well on the retention side.

it was even better when you could just throw up a tour with a backend of nothing but a couple plugins, send a couple thousand emails and/or post to usenet and watch the money come rushing in.....

This thread is full of too much useful industry discussion for GFY. Please close this thread and return to discussing the war in iraq and/or the size of juicylinks penis.

Thank you.

Bumping this one, as it's a good thread

:1orglaugh :Graucho :thumbsup