JanuarySeraph

So, after about 6 months of this bullshit, I decided to head to the Federal Building to report this fucking site as a Hate Crime site which targets the LGBT community, minors, and adult perfromers who support them. Nevermind the fact they are exploiting information from a compromised medical database from AIM, and threatening to leak what Adult Talent Testing has in the next week...

Taking a Stand For the LGBT Community, minors, and Adult Perofmers/ Via AdultPerformerAdvocate.org

But seriously, Why The FUCK would anyone in our industry allow their affiliate promo materials to be on this site, or pay for advertising on this site???

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He is just looking for attention.

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WarChild

How is it a hate crime? I haven't done much more than glance at that site because I don't care, but I didn't see any crime? People can SAY atrocious things, and it doesn't make it a hate crime. Where's the crime part is what I'm wondering?

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Frosty

It's about the money, obviously. Some people don't have any ethics or whatsoever, they couldn't care less how the get the money, as long as it's there.

P.S. They will probably go down very soon, but the only problem are the clone sites. Who knows how many sites cloned PWL. :/

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TubeKing

Eat a fucking dick.

mechanicvirus

First Amendment rights, if you like freedom you have to like ALL freedom

Grapesoda

the comments about gays alone... not to mention whores etc... definite hate crimes

TubeKing

Bill of RIGHTS

topnotch, standup guy

Yeah, right.

Max Hardcore is rotting in jail while Donny Shitstain is running a site that will, sooner or later, result in serious injuries and perhaps even a murder or three.

And you, meanwhile, are here droning on about First Amendment rights and such

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mechanicvirus

troll successful

TubeKing

you sound very jealous

BlackCrayon

so every racist thing on the net is a 'hate crime'?..

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WarChild

It's not a crime to be racist or make negative comments about homosexuals. It would be a crime to incite violence against them. Simply being ignorant isn't a crime though.

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topnotch, standup guy

Jealous of who, the guy in prison or the one with shit in his ass crack?

BTW, shouldn't you be off stealing content from membership sites?

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TubeKing

Not sure what you're referring to but looks like a ban is in order, you need a time out.

Grapesoda

give 'em a few months

Coup

y u mad tho?

topnotch, standup guy

Oh, I'm sorry.

I meant to say, shouldn't some of your "users" be uploading content that they "found" on the world wide web?

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DirtyDanza

You never E-Mailed me... our sites are all over it.. They are an Affiliate of ours...

See the thing you don't understand is they are exercising their freedom of speech.. as we do when we sell porn.. you can't pick and chose what you are going to support and what your not going to support.. you either do or don't.. so to work in porn and not support the freedom of speech is an oxymoron.. and your a moron I can tell by your twitter post

how about this....

do I personally support the site itself and the content of it? NOPE
Do I personally support PWL's right to freedom of speech? YOU BET YOUR ASS I DO....
reminds me of how many of you "industry people" wanted to see max hardcore sent up the fucking river...

look point is.. Freedom of speech was not put in place so we can all talk freely about the fucking weather.. Freedom of speech was put in place to argue about shit and cause controversy and put sides against each other on that topic.... I'm listed on PWL.. and I've had good conversations with who ever runs the site many times.. I could have asked for my name to be removed.. but then what? then im not better and that would be me shoving my finger at freedom of speech.. they have been kind enough to not post any of my home addy's etc etc.... but yet thats all still public knowledge ..


your calling it a hacked database.. um the AIM database was public info ... we all signed that right away when we tested for them... oh but now the girls forget about that once the meth wears off and the cum is still dripping from their assholes a few days later and they are sober not shitting right for a week huh.. oh I bet they forgot to read that little part of the aim paperwork....
get your facts right before you start calling FBI and all that shit


HERES A SIMPLE THOUGHT FOR THE GIRLS THAT ARE CRYING ABOUT SHIT.. DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH PORN? DON'T DO PORN.. GO TO WENDY'S FLIP BURGERS........... OH NO YOUR TOO GOOD FOR THAT.... SUCKING COCKS AND INTERRACIAL DOUBLE ANAL CREAMPIE GANGBANGS ARE WAY ABOVE FLIPPING BURGERS ON THE RESPECTABLE CHART



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DirtyDanza

Because guys that post against PWL were also against Max.. they sent him up the river as they are trying to send PWL up the river... so whats the difference between PWL posting info and the real wiki posting actors real names? I bet you Tony Danza was not like oh hey btw my real name is this I live at such and such address....


dood is this the very first time ever you and I have agreed on something?






wait a min.......












did we just become allies ?

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topnotch, standup guy

You know, the funny thing here is that I actually agreed with Donny Long on the issue of switch hitters working with female content. As politically incorrect as it is to say so, that's just an extremely bad idea and Long was right to point that out.

But that doesn't justify what he's doing now.

Nothing can justify that.

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WarChild

Hey don't get me wrong, I don't support PWL or Donny Long. I just don't see how under current laws in the USA this could qualify as a hate crime. I don't see where the necessary "crime" part is filled? It's not illegal to call somebody names in the USA.

On places like Canada, most of Europe and much of the so called Civilized World, hate speach IS a crime. As it stands though, hate speach is still protected under freedom of speach in the United States.

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topnotch, standup guy

Don't fool yourself, there's lots of people here, and elsewhere, who supported Max and who also think PWL is scum.


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topnotch, standup guy

Agreed.


No it's not.

But providing stalkers and religious nuts with a virtual road map to the doorstep of their favorite pornstar just might be.

In the event that something very bad happens to one or more of the girls listed on PWL, and it can be established that the perp got his info from there, Donny may very well find himself in a world of shit.
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B.Barnato

whats going on here then?

Spieglergirls

DirtyDanza,

"your calling it a hacked database.. um the AIM database was public info ... we all signed that right away when we tested for them"

You are 100% WRONG. The AIM database did not differentiate between CIVILIANS and porn industry workers. PWL has ILLEGALLY posted the medical info of plenty of CIVILIANS who DID NOT sign a waiver!!!! Ask your "lawyers" about that.

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HIPAA Violations and Enforcement

Failure to comply with HIPAA can result in civil and criminal penalties (42 USC § 1320d-5).

Civil Penalties
The ?American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009?(ARRA) that was signed into law on February 17, 2009, established a tiered civil penalty structure for HIPAA violations (see below). The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) still has discretion in determining the amount of the penalty based on the nature and extent of the violation and the nature and extent of the harm resulting from the violation. The Secretary is still prohibited from imposing civil penalties (except in cases of willful neglect) if the violation is corrected within 30 days (this time period may be extended).

HIPAA violation is due to willful neglect and is not corrected
$50,000 per violation, with an annual maximum of $1.5 million

Criminal Penalties
In June 2005, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) clarified who can be held criminally liable under HIPAA. Covered entities and specified individuals, as explained below, whom "knowingly" obtain or disclose individually identifiable health information in violation of the Administrative Simplification Regulations face a fine of up to $50,000, as well as imprisonment up to one year. Offenses committed under false pretenses allow penalties to be increased to a $100,000 fine, with up to five years in prison. Finally, offenses committed with the intent to sell, transfer, or use individually identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain or malicious harm permit fines of $250,000, and imprisonment for up to ten years.

zuffa

Not 100% accurate

A hate crime is usually defined by state law as one that involves threats, harassment, or physical harm and is motivated by prejudice against someone's race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, sexual orientation or physical or mental disability. Laws vary by state and if hate crimes are provided for by statute, the defintions of hate crimes and penalties imposed vary. States that have hate crime statutes provide harsher penalites for such offenses.

The underlying criminal offenses that are designated in hate crime laws include, but are not limited to, crimes against persons like harassment, terroristic threats, assault and crimes against property like criminal trespass, criminal mischief and arson.

From the Dept of Justice:

Hate crime is the violence of intolerance and bigotry, intended to hurt and intimidate someone because of their race, ethnicity, national origin, religious, sexual orientation, or disability. The purveyors of hate may use explosives, arson, weapons, vandalism, physical violence, and verbal threats of violence to instill fear in their victims, leaving them vulnerable to more attacks and feeling alienated, helpless, suspicious and fearful.

Of all crimes, hate crimes are most likely to create or exacerbate tensions, which can trigger larger community-wide conflict, civil disturbances, and physical assaults against specific people groups.

DirtyDanza

if you tested for aim you signed your rights away.. weather you be in the industry or not.. I signed the paperwork myself.... I knew if I test poz for anything.. everyone else would know pretty fucking fast....

now if you speak of "who had access to the database" like I said before.. I know personally a few porn girls that had access to it because it was given to them by white knight directors who will do anything for a set of tits... so there is your argument on who should have it who should not....

im with you guys.. im not happy about it... I'm not a fan of the site.. but I am a fan of freedom of speech...

are you a registered voter mr speigler? If so your info is public and the addy you used to register to vote is public...

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1) "First Amendment" rights apply to Americans IN America. The site is not hosted in America nor is the owner in America.

2) The country he supposedly is in has VERY strict libel law and is one of the most censored countries in the entire world. Example 1: You can be arrested and sued because you review a restaurant and state that the place was dirty or that the burger wasn't good, even though 100% true, it is still against the law to say such things.

So the First Amendment doesn't apply here. When he's back on US soil and hosting there as well, then your argument is valid.

JanuarySeraph

Who is "he"?

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JanuarySeraph

Yes, the anti-gay, anti-semetic, anti- anything other than white and straight language definitely makes it hate speech.

However it is a federal offense to compromise or exploit private medical databases, post pictures of children on an adult site, or link to a child's facebook page from an adult site. And about 45 other examples of how laws have been broken in a targeted attack against adult performers, with the most horrific attacks being directed towards members of the LGBT community, their supporters, and their families, which PWL defines as "The Gay Mafia".

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The Definition of a Hate Crime:

From Wikipedia.org
“In crime and law, hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, social status or political affiliation.[1]
A hate crime is a legal category used to described bias-motivated violence: “assault, injury, and murder on the basis of certain personal characteristics: different appearance, different color, different nationality, different language, different religion.”[2]
“Hate crime” generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[3]”

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JanuarySeraph

Exactly. Why are people waiting for someone to get killed before anyone will acknowledge that by violating performer's privacy rights via exploited private medical and age verification databases, they have put adult performers lives at serious risk. Which is only intensified by the hate speech surrounding this targeted harassment, which could easily incite violence from someone who is not a fan of the adult industry?

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JanuarySeraph

Thanks. A few of your uneducated, unethical users are reminding me why I rarely visit here. But thanks for the forum regardless..

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JanuarySeraph

No, even then his stance isn't valid. You have the freedom to say whatever you want. You do not have the freedom to exploit private documents, harass children, use hate based speech in an effort to incite violence against a specific targeted group based on their race, sexual orientation, or religion.

Personally, I think everyone who opposes letting Donny Long spend the rest of his life outside of a jail cell, should start a fund to employ one of the private agencies that specializes in finding US criminals on the run overseas so they can bring him back to American soil so he CAN face charges here.

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JanuarySeraph

Well, then you should probably consult with your lawyer if knowingly profiting from and essentially partnering with a site that is committing several federal offenses and profiting off of them puts you at risk for criminal charges and/or civil litigation.

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Danza,
You do realize that the site is not hosted in the USA and the site owner is not in the USA? Americans do not get the luxury of traveling with the same freedoms they have on US soil and are subject to local laws and regulations. The First Amendment does not apply outside the borders of the United States of America.

Posting an AIM database... so what, everyone needs to put their big boy pants on and deal with it. It's a stupid and reckless thing to do, but it's not the end of the world. It was bound to happen sooner or later anyway.

However, now they are posting photos of people's kids and parents, as well as fake HIV results. Totally over the line.

You also realize there are libel laws (globally) for a reason, don't you? Just because you can say something, doesn't mean it's not going to cost you your ass later. There is speech (which should be protected) and then there is damaging / hateful speech with the intent to do harm. The two are not the same. I support everyone who wants to say something, good or bad, however, not when your intent is to do harm. A verbal attack is no different than a physical one. There are laws in all countries for both types, and a verbal attack with malicious intent is usually not protected anywhere and will land you in a heap of trouble.

PWL should have just released the AIM data base and left it at that. What is taking place now is madness.

JanuarySeraph

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Moron.

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Harmon

He's just a troll with a fake nickname. Just ignore his posts. I just find it very odd that every time a thread about Donny Long comes up, he is the first to get pissed off an almost defend him.

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mikesouth

Thats one of many problem with this biz these days, one of the many reasons its in the toilet. It really isn't a surprise that the low level dirt bags like DirtyDanza and DirtyD would support Donny Long financially. But Mallcom should know better.

We should, as an industry run people like this out, if the industry were more organized and more honest word could be gotten out and and these guys would fail quickly. I know many girls around here who have refused to work for Dirty D for example, for any price, when they found out what he supports.

But for too many years this business has too many people in it who are more interested in how they can screw over their customer, and the industry than they are in making honest money.

I have turned down advertising from scumbags like these and I will continue to do so. I would never do anything that would put one dime in their pockets.

PWL will come down eventually it is sad that shit stains like Dirty Danza and DirtyD wil probably still be around.

Or maybe the industry will wake up.....but I doubt it.

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mikesouth

It should be noted that, per their posts, pwl only deals with people who will pay them anonymously. For someone like Dirty Danza and Dirty D who have already had legal run ins, it would seem that skirting tax laws wouldn't be a very wise move....

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It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

iamtam

donny shitstain doesnt get 1st amendment rights while hiding in thailand.

DirtyDanza

for the record since your such a smart guy... we have all 1099's from PWL Thank you Very Much.. when they finally break the law and do something illegal I will let you know... until then while it may be shitty they are still within the law....

I think the industry needs to get rid of fucktards like you personally.. wtf have you done positive for this industry?

I'll tell you what D and I have done for the industry over the last 10 years.. what the fuck have you done... sit around and bitch about shit? I am willing to bet D and I dealt with more whores last week than you have your entire life.. so your whole misconception of reality is really screwed .....

you honestly think it's illegal to talk bad about someone ?

here ill prove my point....

Mike South I think your a piece of shit... there I talked shit.. no come sue me for liable... please please go down right now and file suit .... You obviously have no idea what the law is... or how the law works... your as bad as everyone thinking casey anthony is guilty .....

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