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Sid70 07-12-2011 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18273365)
If I can just give my 2 cents, while our fees are not higher at all (I can show multiple calculations), I"d like to point out that fees aren't the most important factor in deciding on a payment method.

Payoneer has been in the mainstream payment field for over 6 years, and with over 1400 partners, including Fortune 100 companies (such as Getty Images), we are very VERY highly regulated and adhere to the strictest of rules set by the US government (where we are based) and follow such regulations as KYC (Know Your Customer), BSA (Bank Secrecy Act), AML (Anti-Money Laundering) and OFAC (Office of Foreign Assets Control).

We offer a full payment solution, from prepaid debit MasterCards (both plastic and virtual), ACH, international bank transfers, peer to peer transfers, and more.

We are back by very strong venture capital firms Greylock Partners, Carmel Ventures, and Crossbar Capital and by quite a few banks so ensure that everything works properly and legally, and are constantly updating our security to ensure the safety of everyone's funds.

I'd be more than happy to give you more information if you're interested.
Impressive.

Talia_Payoneer 07-12-2011 01:01 PM
Just as a clarification, we don't shut down accounts that are inactive, we put them on an inactibe status, but it reopens when you receive a payment.

RuthB 07-12-2011 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18277205)
Paxum. It's less complicated than Payoneer and unlike Payoneer they don't shutdown your account after a period of inactivity.
We're going to be adding something really cool this week too Bob.. I think you'll like it :winkwink:

Agent 488 07-12-2011 01:04 PM
as far as fees payoneer doesn't charge pos fees but paxum it's a buck a pop, so to say there is more fees with payoneer is disingenuous. they can add up.

u-Bob 07-12-2011 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18277253)
Just as a clarification, we don't shut down accounts that are inactive, we put them on an inactibe status, but it reopens when you receive a payment.
same thing. people end up being unable to log in.

VenzuelanChick 07-12-2011 01:13 PM
To be honest they are both pretty good is more of a personal choice. I use them both and have no complains.

MrCain 07-12-2011 01:21 PM
Israeli assassins prefer payoneer.

Talia_Payoneer 07-12-2011 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18277294)
same thing. people end up being unable to log in.
Just out of curiosity, why would you log in to an account that you have no activity in? The moment you have funds in there, it is reopened. It is actually a protection mechanism.

u-Bob 07-12-2011 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 18277358)
Just out of curiosity, why would you log in to an account that you have no activity in? The moment you have funds in there, it is reopened. It is actually a protection mechanism.
why would you disable it?
how exactly does disabling it protect anyone against anything?

Talia_Payoneer 07-12-2011 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18277369)
why would you disable it?
how exactly does disabling it protect anyone against anything?
Honestly, I don't remember what the reason was, but I have zero desire to make up a reason. I haven't heard anyone ever complain about this, but I will let our management known that there were complaints about this, and I will get back to you when I have an answer about inactive accounts.

u-Bob 07-12-2011 01:52 PM
Thnx.


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pimpsalot 07-18-2011 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCain (Post 18277326)
Israeli assassins prefer payoneer.
Don't be such a fuckstick. I guess you support the murder of women and children using rockets though right?

Socks 07-18-2011 03:03 PM
Does anyone here get checks in the mail from Paxum?

I had a check sent in late March, it never arrived. I had them re-issue a check ($35 fee) and it also hasn't arrived.

Ruth offered to put my second soon to hit $35 fee towards a $45 a year mastercard, but I really don't want one...

So anyways no knock against them, assuming they're putting my checks in the mail.. But has anyone else experienced lost checks in the mail from Paxum?

I can't remember ever having to call CCBill once in 10 years because a check got "lost in the mail"... 4 checks a month for 10 years. But Paxum's first 2 checks to me never arrive..

I understand Canada Post strike, but it ended a few weeks ago now, and plenty of other mail has arrived since then. Still no paxum checks.

Agent 488 07-18-2011 03:05 PM
lol spend the extra 10 bucks and get a card.

pimpsalot 07-18-2011 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 18276116)
Payoneer may have more traffic and has been around for longer, but the OP asked what does "the industry" use most, and among adult affiliate programs Paxum is definately used by more. About which is "better" ? That's whole another subject and depends on case, but it's not just about "size".

Here's another nice stat:
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=payoneer.com&
Of course this is complete bullshit. That's probably why you are repping Paxum in your sig.

To be clear and so the entire thread audience knows that you are bullshit:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=payoneer.com&

Furthermore, PayPal doesn't allow adult. Anyone using them or trying to compare them to Payoneer or Paxum or any other industry-wide affiliate payout system is wasting their time.

Payoneer's customers include most of the biggest names in Adult including:

HustlerCash
Streamates
LiveJazmin
PinkVisual
IMLive
AdultFriendFinder
VideoSecrets

and many others.

Here is a recent write up on their offering and business:

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/133440

Lilit 07-18-2011 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 18290417)
Payoneer's customers include most of the biggest names in Adult including:

HustlerCash
Streamates
LiveJazmin
PinkVisual
IMLive
AdultFriendFinder
VideoSecrets

and many others.

Here is a recent write up on their offering and business:

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/133440
Just to avoid potential confusion, we are not offering Payoneer payments to our webmasters. A while back we started integration (and I recall that I mentioned it on the boards so perhaps that's why our company appears on the list) but there were a few issues during the process and we had to cancel it.

Hermes 07-18-2011 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 18290417)
Of course this is complete bullshit. That's probably why you are repping Paxum in your sig.

To be clear and so the entire thread audience knows that you are bullshit:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=payoneer.com&

Furthermore, PayPal doesn't allow adult. Anyone using them or trying to compare them to Payoneer or Paxum or any other industry-wide affiliate payout system is wasting their time.

Payoneer's customers include most of the biggest names in Adult including:

HustlerCash
Streamates
LiveJazmin
PinkVisual
IMLive
AdultFriendFinder
VideoSecrets

and many others.

Here is a recent write up on their offering and business:

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/133440
There's nothing BS in my post, I only said that among adult affiliate programs Paxum is used by much more programs and this is a fact. You may argue that Payoneer is used more by big programs than small ones, but that's another question.

Secondly, you didn't even seem to understand my post, the alexa stats about PayPal was basicly just to show that using Alexa stats is pointless in this comparison. And the stat that you're reposting to "prove" something was already in my post too..

And btw. many adult programs have been using PayPal for quite a while already without problems, some in your list too.

PS. I had Payoneer link in my sig too for long time but removed it due to lack of new sponsors and general interest.

Agent 488 07-18-2011 04:10 PM
didn't know topbucks used payoneer as well.

CaptainHowdy 07-18-2011 04:22 PM
Alexa graphs are always convincing ... not.

Klen 07-18-2011 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 18290417)
Of course this is complete bullshit. That's probably why you are repping Paxum in your sig.

To be clear and so the entire thread audience knows that you are bullshit:

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...=payoneer.com&

Furthermore, PayPal doesn't allow adult. Anyone using them or trying to compare them to Payoneer or Paxum or any other industry-wide affiliate payout system is wasting their time.

Payoneer's customers include most of the biggest names in Adult including:

HustlerCash
Streamates
LiveJazmin
PinkVisual
IMLive
AdultFriendFinder
VideoSecrets

and many others.

Here is a recent write up on their offering and business:

http://www.xbiz.com/articles/133440
Aren't you guy who is too fanatical in promoting payoneer ?Therefore anything you post cannot be taken for serious.

AnimeFevers 07-18-2011 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 18290374)
Don't be such a fuckstick. I guess you support the murder of women and children using rockets though right?
Why are you bumping buried payoneer threads?

Fucking gay little fanboy

Nothing wrong with payoneer though, I have a payoneer card and use them regularly.

signupdamnit 07-18-2011 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Socks (Post 18290399)
Does anyone here get checks in the mail from Paxum?

I had a check sent in late March, it never arrived. I had them re-issue a check ($35 fee) and it also hasn't arrived.

Ruth offered to put my second soon to hit $35 fee towards a $45 a year mastercard, but I really don't want one...

So anyways no knock against them, assuming they're putting my checks in the mail.. But has anyone else experienced lost checks in the mail from Paxum?

I can't remember ever having to call CCBill once in 10 years because a check got "lost in the mail"... 4 checks a month for 10 years. But Paxum's first 2 checks to me never arrive..

I understand Canada Post strike, but it ended a few weeks ago now, and plenty of other mail has arrived since then. Still no paxum checks.
Consider telling Paxum that you will be asking the Postmaster (or whatever you have up there) to conduct an investigation into the missing mail and ask for details which you can give to the postmaster. Two missing checks is not a coincidence. Unless you have the address wrong or there are issues with people stealing your other mail then either someone is stealing it in transit or else Paxum (or a rouge employee) never sent them out. Of course I'm not saying Paxum is doing this but it would be possible for a company to lie about sending the checks so they could collect a phony stop payment fee. In the U.S. such a thing could potentially be seen as mail fraud and could involve prison...

Agent 488 07-18-2011 06:38 PM
there was just a postal strike in canada and mail is totally fucked / late.

it is just getting sorted now but still a huge backlog. pretty obvious what happened.

Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18290814)
Consider telling Paxum that you will be asking the Postmaster (or whatever you have up there) to conduct an investigation into the missing mail and ask for details which you can give to the postmaster. Two missing checks is not a coincidence. Unless you have the address wrong or there are issues with people stealing your other mail then either someone is stealing it in transit or else Paxum (or a rouge employee) never sent them out. Of course I'm not saying Paxum is doing this but it would be possible for a company to lie about sending the checks so they could collect a phony stop payment fee. In the U.S. such a thing could potentially be seen as mail fraud and could involve prison...

signupdamnit 07-18-2011 06:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18290826)
there was just a postal strike in canada and mail is totally fucked / late.

it is just getting sorted now but still a huge backlog. pretty obvious what happened.
Makes sense. I knew vaguely of the strike but thought when he stated it was done that it wouldn't be the problem. But if they are still backlogged that would be the first thing to suspect..


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