It's great to still be making money 25 years after you did the work.

Still some more old ones.


Anyone here from the UK and older than 40 will remember Sharon Kayne. Another page 3 model.

No Eva and I went to an open air cinema.

Fuck my life???????

I'm happily retired, with enough money to see me through to the end of my days. I live in our nice 3 bedroom house in a sleepy little village in Czech, which is where I choose to live because I love it here. Not for any other reason, we could move back to the UK, but our standard of living would come crashing down and England holds nothing for me. We own the house, lock stock and barrel. come over and see the deeds.

I have a wife who loves me, a daughter who loves me and a dog who I'm not sure about but he does follow me everywhere I go.

I watched Eva recover from an accident that should of killed her, beat very advanced cancer that should of killed me. After 2 years of really being out of working, both recovering and looking after me. She's happy to go back to work and have something that challenges her.

I've had a career that most of you would of loved to have. While you sit there punching a keyboard I was taking pictures and movies of naked girls doing wonderful things to themselves and getting paid well to do it.

After getting rid of the studio and staff, stopping shooting, the sites still bring in money, that we can add to our small pile. In a business where most of you wouldn't last 3 months after what happened to us, that's pretty good. Don't you think?

I have, the money we didn't blow on boys toys and mortgages like so many, my private pensions and State invalid benefits. Don't tell me I'm a parasite, I paid for every penny I'm getting now many times over.

I'm now scanning stuff from 25 years ago. Nice because I can see how I progressed as a shooter, remember some great days and brings home how much I grew.

The downsides to my life are. My saliva glands are fucked and will never recover. My strength and stamina is pretty poor, the Manwin shoot proved to me I will never come back to shooting. Whether I want to or not. I'm physically not capable.

I'm truly pissed that people like you turned what should of been the new dawn of porn, into it's dusk. As far as making money. You online guys missed the opportunity of a lifetime. Few have the chances you did to make billions. You fucked up.

If 1-100 buy. 99 don't. 99 lost customers. If 1-1,000 buy, 999 don't buy. If the reason they don't buy is the amount of free porn online, legit free porn. Or the lack of will to join the site, the fix isn't throwing more traffic at it. But for 10 years and more, that's the only fix many of you could think of.

And you put the growing traffic down to all the people wanting the free porn. did you really think those who would buy or were remotely interested in porn wouldn't come anyway? If you did, you don't understand marketing porn online, offline or any bloody way you can imagine. Men like looking at porn, they will look at porn given the chance, by supplying them with millions of free galleries you diminish their need to buy the product.

This was something people knew a decade ago. People were saying that too much content in a gallery was hurting sales. But if one gallery had 10 pictures in, the archives had 10,000 other galleries. Today the problem is the same it was then. Just got worse because you kept thinking more traffic = more sales. And used the most stupid excuses possible to back that claim.

No traffic no sales = But use content to get traffic.

They can sell water and water's free. = If you live with your Mum it is, otherwise you pay for water out the tap.

They give away free samples in supermarkets. = They don't give away a crate of them.

MacDonalds can sell crap burgers = Not by giving them away for free.

Yes I'm pissed that idiots turned what should of been a business that was thriving into a business that can nearly see it's end. Unless you give away porn to sell ad space.

Seriously though Damian and please don't ignore this. Where will you be working in 5 years time? Still in your living room or your Mum's living room or where?

Don't worry about my life, it's fine.

Is that a big bruise around her mouth?

Here's another reason you don't get it.....

A porn magazine shelf in an adult shop had a ton of magazines, often 100's when counting old ones as well, (like sites today), multi-packaged ones, discount boxes, etc. (before counting what they have at home already that are free now) By your logic, all the other magazines didn't convert the customers, they were just looking, flipping, and ended up with another magazine or maybe even left the store or maybe got a dvd and no magazine at all. Then again, not everyone coming in the door bought the best magazine either, but chances are they looked at it - it sold more due to exposure, and took from others... oh wait, just like today....

Your post made me think about the way my local adult store used to conduct their business.

It was a very large store that sold everything adult related. They had a huge magazine section with something for everyone. They had a room in the back where employees shrink wrapped every single magazine before it was put out on the shelf. There was no browsing through magazines. You bought the magazine because of the cover and or the reputation of that magazine. Shoppers were carefully monitored and anyone tearing open a shrink wrap was ejected from the store.They did huge business, had two cashiers and there was always a line to pay for your items.

On the flip side there is a Books a Million in the mall that also has a huge mainstream magazine section. They however do not shrink wrap their magazines so people are able to pick them up and look through them. They even take it a step further and provide chairs and sofas so people can sit down and be comfortable while they read the magazines. You go there on a Saturday afternoon and there will be upwards of 20 people looking through magazines. You could sit there and read all you want of your favorite magazines without spending a dime. There is no line at the register and hardly anyone actually buys the magazine. No reason to since they got to view it for free.

Two different ways of selling magazines and it appears that by protecting their merchandise the adult book store sold far more magazines than the Mall book store that let their customers use the magazines for free.

Paul, do you remember Susana Farcach (aka Suzie Temple)? She was from east Europe but worked a lot in UK.

Congrats, because not a lot of people can say that. I hope to one day as well. Profit from things I did 20+ years ago that is.

now back to the fuckery.

So here's a question for all those who think porn was bigger on the Internet. How many ways did a porn shop and porn production company have of making money?

Here's something Paul constantly forgets about:

(I am no "kid". I've been around porn for 25+ years now. Oh - and for Penthouse, Hustler and Screw, name brands.)

I'm tired of hearing from you Paul how "1 in a 100 buy, leaving 99 that didn't therefore you online guys are loser idiots...." (paraphrasing here).

PAUL: How many people went into an old school XXX video store, looked around at all the titles, then LEFT WITHOUT BUYING A THING?

How many people Paul would go to a newsstand, stand there, flip through countless porn mags (admiring your unequaled work, no doubt), put the mag down and LEAVE WITHOUT PAYING?

I have a friend who owns a newsstand on the corner of 39th and 5th, here in Manhattan. Has owned it for about 30 years now. He's as old as YOU are Paul! Know what he says? About 1 out of 100 people who stop by his stand to oogle the porn mags buy one. It's been this way for 30 years.

SO PAUL: when you get a "ratio" of 1:100 IT IS THE SAME EXACT THING AS WHEN YOU WERE WORKING IN MAGS. Same ratios.

So this point, which you hammer home non-stop, is NOT an indicater of how bad porn is now, how idiotic we online guys are and can't compare to "shooters" from the Seventies, etc etc. You sound idiotic and old every time you say things like this Paul, and the worst part is it simply is NOT TRUE.

Now go play with your puppy.

Yes, it's good and great seeing some of the girls I shot back then.

justinsain THat Books store was obviously doing the right thing, giving away the product and making it easy for free loaders is the way to do business. </sarcasm>

Most people in online porn don't have a clue how the business was run and the money taken. They quote Private's figures and think that's it. Even Fabian did it which again shows a huge lack of understanding.

So here's a question for all those who think porn was bigger on the Internet. How many ways did a porn shop and porn production company have of making money?

No long termers please, let the big mouth newbies to porn come up with an answer.

If your friend was letting people jerk off while they were leafing through the magazines for free, you would have a point.

If this industry converted 1-100 browsers we would all be making millions a week.

Your posts proves you don't have to do a lot to get men to look at porn. It's bloody easy. And when conversion ratios over all has gone to 1-1,000s of the browsers, we in trouble.

I suspect your friend didn't lat them leaf through the magazines on a NY Street. But what the hell.

What did you do in porn years ago?

You can answer the question I posed.

Start a poll Paul. Ask people if they think companies producing porn made more or less money after the internet was invented.

You are the only person who thinks there was more money in porn before the largest ever distribution model appeared.

It's so funny. Just like you are the only person who thinks censorship is good.

If your friend was letting people jerk off while they were leafing through the magazines for free, you would have a point.

If this industry converted 1-100 browsers we would all be making millions a week.

Your posts proves you don't have to do a lot to get men to look at porn. It's bloody easy. And when conversion ratios over all has gone to 1-1,000s of the browsers, we in trouble.

I suspect your friend didn't lat them leaf through the magazines on a NY Street. But what the hell.

What did you do in porn years ago?

You can answer the question I posed.

Where shall I start it?
In the offices of Hustler, Trojan, Score or on GFY?

I'm one of the very few who worked in offline porn. Most of the people here, like you, didn't have a clue what was being made.

Answer my question I posed about where the money came from.

Where can I buy a .xxx domain

On GFY, how can you start a poll at the offices of Hustler?

Ah, you're too scared to do the poll. I see. More excuses from the lying coward.

this shit is still going on? who gives a fuck!!!

Can't say I do. 1991 there were very few Eastern European girls here. Still required a visa.

A picture of hers on Men Only

Then it's a stupid poll. But coming from you that's nothing new.

So just say you don't know.
clown. Why not just say you don't know?

As you're clueless about what was made in offline porn where are you getting your stats from? Come on, show us proof.

I did work out what the Internet was.

we weren't going to risk the offline income to go for a paysite.

Nice that you think I could of made millions with our content. OH fuck, I did.

And you have absolutely no clue how much we made, whether we live in a cottage, rented or owned.

We all know you live in a dump, rented dump, look like an idiot with your pornbeer and a massive failure promoting your magic shows.

Paul, you keep saying that the porn being produced today is crap.

Can you specifically point to any porn produced today that, in your opinion, is not crap? Please give links/examples.

I ask this because it's hard for me to see where you are coming from when you say current porn is crap, but have no examples to point to.

No one so far has answered my questions of the main income sources of a porn shop and a porn producer, prior to the Internet and even today.

Paul, you asked the question. I just wanted you to make it an official poll so you could see how no one but you thinks offline porn made more than online.

Because it's already been discussed here, several times. You've probably forgotten. Use the search function.

Stats? There are no public stats. You lied about getting some from Northern and Shell and then were too much of a pussy to admit that when I asked you to post the email you lied about with full headers. Again.Turning into a habit, isn't it? You lie, you get called on it, then you insult the person. :D

But you would have to be really painstakingly stupid to think before the internet porn made more money than after. Really really really stupid.

Did you forget then? Cos you don't have a fucking clue today. And really, internet stopped having a I about 10 years ago.

You tried lots of pay sites, they just all failed. Magic join links agogo. $5 sites. Astral-blue. LOL.

Where did it all go though Paul?

Now you live in a cottage you are too ashamed off to post a pic.

Sucks to be you

No wonder you're so bitter.

I can guess. You live in a small cottage, full of dreadfully tacky nicknacks. You dress like you shop in Lidl. You cannot afford decent kit. Your wife has to work a menial job.

Well post what your millions bought you Paul! Show us all what 35 years at the top of your game gets you in a village outside Brno. Man up for once. Let is all aspire to be as successful as YOU!

Post away. Let's see what all your millions bought you...

So here's a question for all those who think porn was bigger on the Internet. How many ways did a porn shop and porn production company have of making money?

And just for the record, if there are no public stats. Why are you convinced online porn made more money?

What was the BS about N&S about? You lying again or drunk?

You said you moved to Arundel. Is that a lie? Post a picture of your new place please.

For a man who knows so much about Internet Marketing, it hasn't paid you very well..

For a man who knows so little about the Internet, I seem to have done all right.

Damina, post a picture of your office with a written sign that says, "Paul Markham is a fool".

Because you'd have to have the brains of a potato to think otherwise.

I will never post a picture of the front of my house for obvious reasons.

Because it is as shit as your crappy office with those tiny monitors and cheap desks and chairs?

Paul, man, tidy up once in a while.

Really.

Maybe when your wife has finished opening the post and filing in her day job she could at least clean up a bit for you?

PS I can't believe you *actually* went to the trouble of taking those pictures to try and prove you are a millionaire. You're fail skills are laughable today. Well done. Fuck Paul, never leave here. You make me laugh so much. You're my bitch. Hehe.

When did I say I was a millionaire?

So post a picture of your office. Let's see all your hi tech equipment, wide screens, expensive office chairs.

Here

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18274176&postcount=121

And you constantly go on about how many million you made.

You and your memory!

Your troll game is getting weak. I never said I was a millionaire. Liar you are.

$2m divided by 33 years = $60,606 a year. That in English money so you understand it better is less than £739 a week. Come on troll, that's easy, it's like one set a week into a magazine. Please stop branding yourself as a failure.



Come on show it or people will think. Liar you are. http://www.usedaeronchairs.co.uk

Finally getting closer to the truth...now aren't you? You made a living and that is about it. Which means your current wealth has to be pretty minimal and would explain why you once stated that the money your wife earns comes in handy.

The trolling here is getting very very weak.

Private, go read it again.

Dismissed, now go clean the latrines and peel the spuds.

Traffic never was king because getting it was so easy.

Think the message through, 1000 joins = $30,000 a month turn over. How much traffic? Top quality at 1-100 = 100,000 hits, do you know anyone with that much traffic?

Is in fact the exact quote, made March 15 2007

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The increase in revenue in online porn was not due to the free porn being put out. It was due to the increase in people coming online. That growth is over