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L-Pink 07-05-2011 06:10 PM

What if it was Jim Jones poison lemonade?

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ThunderBalls 07-05-2011 06:11 PM

I think the bigger picture is who the hell wants to be hit up by kids to drink their lemonade anyway?

u-Bob 07-05-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18262399)
But it's true, I've seen it happen with my own eyes at other events. One person or group goes ahead and sets up wherever they want, no permits etc. You (the event people) ignore it (because it's 'just kids'), then 20 mins later there's a few extra hotdog carts, a couple burger carts, an unauthorized souvenir stand, and later a few people have set up tables to sell their leftover yard sale crap. Pretty soon you've got, like someone already said, a MINEFIELD of annoying hawkers to get through in order to get to the event.

First of all, those kids never set up store on the property of those event holders. The event holders never complained. It was some government official who wanted to make more money for the government.

Secondly: lemonade stands, hotdog carts, hamburger carts,... none of those would stay at any location for a long time if no one was buying their products. The fact that people were buying lemonade or the fact that people at other events were buying hotdogs and hamburgers proves that people valued the services (the sale of cold lemonade, hotdogs, hamburgers,...) that were being offered otherwise people wouldn't be willing to hand over their money in exchange for those products. It's a great thing, it's called the free market.

u-Bob 07-05-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18262729)
What if it was Jim Jones poison lemonade?

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how exactly would paying the government $10 for a permit make sure that the lemonade was safe to drink?:winkwink:

ThunderBalls 07-05-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18262735)
First of all, those kids never set up store on the property of those event holders. The event holders never complained. It was some government official who wanted to make more money for the government.

Secondly: lemonade stands, hotdog carts, hamburger carts,... none of those would stay at any location for a long time if no one was buying their products. The fact that people were buying lemonade or the fact that people at other events were buying hotdogs and hamburgers proves that people valued the services (the sale of cold lemonade, hotdogs, hamburgers,...) that were being offered otherwise people wouldn't be willing to hand over their money in exchange for those products. It's a great thing, it's called the free market.

I can't think of a truer free market than Mexico, not working out to well for them.

u-Bob 07-05-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 18262739)
I can't think of a truer free market than Mexico, not working out to well for them.

They have a central bank, legal tender laws, a police system,.... not really a free market then...

directfiesta 07-05-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18261581)

thanks ... that was funny ...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

L-Pink 07-05-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18262738)
how exactly would paying the government $10 for a permit make sure that the lemonade was safe to drink?:winkwink:

I was thinking maybe there were food prep standards/permits that had to be complied with and random people setting up through out the city could be dangerous health wise. Tacos, lemonade, grilled chicken, are they all lumped together?

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u-Bob 07-05-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18262752)
I was thinking maybe there were food prep standards/permits that had to be complied with and random people setting up through out the city could be dangerous health wise. Tacos, lemonade, grilled chicken, are they all lumped together?

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According to that gov official's own words all they needed to do to get the permit was pay $10. that's $10 to be able to sell lemonade without the government sending in their goons to shut you down. the fact that some vendor has a license only means that he gave the government its cut, not that the safety or quality of the product he's selling is in any way being guaranteed by the government.

brassmonkey 07-05-2011 06:34 PM

how much did they make? im guessing they just jumped in. their are rules from state to state on charity.

u-Bob 07-05-2011 06:36 PM

50 lemonade stands and I'm calling it a night.

garce 07-05-2011 06:51 PM

$500 is cheap. Try setting up a lemonade stand up here at Yonge and Bloor and see how much sympathy you get.

Event or no event, you can't have people setting up shop wherever the fuck they want. The idiot parents should be bitch slapped and possibly investigated for exploiting their own children. Are their no applicable child labour laws?

UBob - that good old "free market" is working wonders : http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...s-out-of-money (Random link - there's millions more...)

Bull Smoke 07-05-2011 06:55 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. Although as an inspector, I'd probably just quietly ask them to close rather than to issue a fine that can't be enforced against a child anyhow.

PornoMonster 07-05-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18262728)
Just like Governments use "safety", "the public welfare", national security",... to gain more power and impose higher taxes and a constant stream of fines onto the people. That's what this is really about.


first they came for the lemonade stands....

Two wrongs make a right?

PornoMonster 07-05-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bull Smoke (Post 18262802)
I don't see what the big deal is. Although as an inspector, I'd probably just quietly ask them to close rather than to issue a fine that can't be enforced against a child anyhow.

They did ask them to leave several times.
The fine was given to the parents. It was also later dropped.

CDSmith 07-05-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18262735)
Secondly: lemonade stands, hotdog carts, hamburger carts,... none of those would stay at any location for a long time if no one was buying their products. The fact that people were buying lemonade or the fact that people at other events were buying hotdogs and hamburgers proves that people valued the services (the sale of cold lemonade, hotdogs, hamburgers,...) that were being offered otherwise people wouldn't be willing to hand over their money in exchange for those products. It's a great thing, it's called the free market.

Whether the product is selling or not is irrelevant.


Q; should those kids be allowed to set up their lemonade stand in front of, let's say, a restaurant? What about in front of one of those burger and soda stands? Where do you draw the line and enforce the rules?

Let me put it another way. If you don't like an existing bylaw, change it. The legal way. Petition elected officials to do something about it. You'll at least if anything find out what reasons they have for keeping it in place. But to just flout the law and set up shop wherever you FEEL is okay to, then ignore warnings to move by local officials, then cry about getting fined? Sorry, no sale.

Maybe I'll go set up my family yard sale at the entrance to the mall this weekend. :D

adultchatpay 07-06-2011 03:21 AM

now the $500 goes somewhere...

dazzling 07-06-2011 03:43 AM

Its not just in the United States this silly interference in peoples live is happening, its all over Western countries and its getting worse. God fuckin knows how bad it will be 100 years from now.

jigg 07-06-2011 04:25 AM

apparently the kids are grandchildren of the Mariott (hotels) Augustine (Lockheed Martin) families. They had a 10 foot by 10 foot tent with coolers and 50% of the proceeds went to charity.

county waived the $500 fine after the parents agreed to move the lemonade stand 100ft from where it was
http://www.wusa9.com/video/default.a...=1001342238001

original report: http://www.wusa9.com/video/default.a...d=997423496001

Phoenix 07-06-2011 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jigg (Post 18263446)
apparently the kids are grandchildren of the Mariott (hotels) Augustine (Lockheed Martin) families. They had a 10 foot by 10 foot tent with coolers and 50% of the proceeds went to charity.

county waived the $500 fine after the parents agreed to move the lemonade stand 100ft from where it was
http://www.wusa9.com/video/default.a...=1001342238001

original report: http://www.wusa9.com/video/default.a...d=997423496001

oh sure officer we will comply
im also going to get my army of vampire lawyers to call your boss
one second please..lol

czarina 07-06-2011 05:49 AM

what a bunch of a*holes!

u-Bob 07-06-2011 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by garce (Post 18262795)
UBob - that good old "free market" is working wonders : http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...s-out-of-money (Random link - there's millions more...)

I hope you are not implying that the USA somehow is a free market. The USA has a mixed economy.

the free market: Voluntary exchange. People who produce products and deliver service other people value and are willing to pay for. Producers who can only increase their market share by either lowering the price of the products they are selling or by improving the quality.
the free market is a system where people who produce goods and service other people want are rewarded and where irresponsible wasteful behavior is punished.

In the current mixed economy the irresponsible get bailed out, corporations are allowed to violate other people's property rights, oil companies are encouraged to take what otherwise would have been unnecessary risks because now the government just forces the taxpayer to pay for the damage when there's an accident,....

etc :)


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