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  • drmadcat
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2011
    • 2024
    #1

    is it hard to manage a server

    im new to vps and really like vps.net but they say that there server is not managed

    is it easy to manage a server

    the only experiences ive had with hosting is a basic hosting package with godaddy.com
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    • AdultKing
      Raise Your Weapon
      • Jun 2003
      • 15601
      #2
      How well do you know Linux ?

      If you understand *nix, apache, php, basic security etc you should not have any problems managing a VPS.

      Edit, as you have had to ask, perhaps it's beyond you.

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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089
          #3
          What control panel does it come with? If DirectAdmin it is very easy and we have an entire set of Flash based tutorials anyone can access.

          We also offer cPanel tutorials, but personally, I thought cPanel was more confusing than DirectAdmin.

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            • onwebcam
              Fake Nick 1.0
              • Oct 2005
              • 27689
              #4
              Go with managed. That way as long as you can navigate the CP you're good. If it's unmanaged and it goes down you'll be SOL.
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                • raymor
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3745
                  #5
                  If you read a couple of books you can manage it ok for a year or so until the hackers take it over.
                  Seriously for just a few dollars per month you can leverage the knowledge and experience of expert engineers who manage many similarly configured servers. Companies like Amerinoc offer the services of $100 / hour engineers for next to nothing because their engineers manage hundreds of servers.
                  Also the big name sites don't hire us because they are stupid. They hire us because they know that a little time from a qualified engineer will save them thousands compared to the mistakes they would make by trying to do it themselves. They know they are marketers, not engineers.
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                    • XSV
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 1214
                      #6
                      Define easy.

                      If you are a quick learner then it may be easy, for some it comes naturally and easy, just like you have some things you are most likely good at that may be hard for others to pick up as quickly as you did.

                      It's not "easy", otherwise everyone would do it. It's not "hard" either, as many people manage their own, but it takes dedication to stay on top of everything as you will battle thousands trying to hack you daily in one form or another.

                      And even when you think you grasp the concept, the guys that really know what they are doing will blow your mind, it's like they are connected to the matrix (AKA the Interwebs).

                      At the end of the day, it's like life, you get out of it what you put in to it.

                      Good luck with it.
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                        • drmadcat
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2024
                          #7
                          Originally posted by XSV
                          Define easy.

                          If you are a quick learner then it may be easy, for some it comes naturally and easy, just like you have some things you are most likely good at that may be hard for others to pick up as quickly as you did.

                          It's not "easy", otherwise everyone would do it. It's not "hard" either, as many people manage their own, but it takes dedication to stay on top of everything as you will battle thousands trying to hack you daily in one form or another.

                          And even when you think you grasp the concept, the guys that really know what they are doing will blow your mind, it's like they are connected to the matrix (AKA the Interwebs).

                          At the end of the day, it's like life, you get out of it what you put in to it.

                          Good luck with it.
                          thanks for the advice
                          asiamoviepass.com

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                            • XSV
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 1214
                              #8
                              Originally posted by raymor
                              If you read a couple of books you can manage it ok for a year or so until the hackers take it over.
                              Seriously for just a few dollars per month you can leverage the knowledge and experience of expert engineers who manage many similarly configured servers. Companies like Amerinoc offer the services of $100 / hour engineers for next to nothing because their engineers manage hundreds of servers.
                              Also the big name sites don't hire us because they are stupid. They hire us because they know that a little time from a qualified engineer will save them thousands compared to the mistakes they would make by trying to do it themselves. They know they are marketers, not engineers.
                              For the record, Ray is 3 minutes smarter than me, I've always been a slow typer.
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                                • drmadcat
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2011
                                  • 2024
                                  #9
                                  has anybody used wiredtree.com
                                  i want to use there vps512 managed vps
                                  are wiredtree any good

                                  im going to be using it for tubex
                                  asiamoviepass.com

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                                    • mamaliga
                                      la gente está muy loca
                                      • Mar 2011
                                      • 1323
                                      #10
                                      Well i guess i will need to move to a dedicated server as soon as it`s possible since i using over 3GB of SWAP to my VPS but definetly i will go with a managed server.
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                                        • Chosen
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 63151
                                          #11
                                          NQ4.NET is also good

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                                            • CYF
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                                              • Mar 2009
                                              • 10973
                                              #12
                                              well, if you have to ask, you should probably go managed
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                                                • XSV
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 1214
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by CYF
                                                  well, if you have to ask, you should probably go managed
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                                                    • drmadcat
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                      • 2024
                                                      #14
                                                      year def going to go managed just finding who to use know i like the look of wiredtree.com and amerinoc.com but i carnt see anywhere on amerinoc that it uses c-panel i dont want to buy c-panel
                                                      asiamoviepass.com

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                                                        • XSV
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                          • 1214
                                                          #15
                                                          AmeriNOC does not use cPanel. They include DirectAdmin for free on all managed plans though, or so I've heard. ;-)

                                                          That said, I've seen your other post... I wouldn't recommend running any tube site using less than a VPS/Dedicated server with at least 1 GB RAM, even if you are using sponsor hosted videos.

                                                          Also, my last nugget for the night, you should search for WT (WiredTree) on this forum and see how many references you find. Think about where you are at and from whom you are asking for advice, either you are going to listen to them (us) or you aren't.

                                                          Good luck.
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                                                            • Socks
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 8475
                                                              #16
                                                              It's very, very, very easy.

                                                              Until something goes wrong.

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                                                                • Klen
                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                  • 32235
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Well it is easy for me,but not sure for average joe

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                                                                    • drmadcat
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2011
                                                                      • 2024
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by XSV
                                                                      AmeriNOC does not use cPanel. They include DirectAdmin for free on all managed plans though, or so I've heard. ;-)

                                                                      That said, I've seen your other post... I wouldn't recommend running any tube site using less than a VPS/Dedicated server with at least 1 GB RAM, even if you are using sponsor hosted videos.

                                                                      Also, my last nugget for the night, you should search for WT (WiredTree) on this forum and see how many references you find. Think about where you are at and from whom you are asking for advice, either you are going to listen to them (us) or you aren't.

                                                                      Good luck.
                                                                      thanks for the advice im fairly new to this and need all the help i can get thanks
                                                                      asiamoviepass.com

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                                                                        • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                          Ah My Balls
                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                          • 14311
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Go with managed and go with yellowfiber

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                                                                            • stach14
                                                                              M3Server.com
                                                                              • May 2011
                                                                              • 667
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I say to everyone I talk to, why not go managed and let the people that deal with servers for a life handle the server end of things. This gives you more time to work on your site and build your traffic.
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                                                                                • CurrentlySober
                                                                                  Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 38957
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  What control panel does it come with? If DirectAdmin it is very easy and we have an entire set of Flash based tutorials anyone can access.

                                                                                  We also offer cPanel tutorials, but personally, I thought cPanel was more confusing than DirectAdmin.
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                                                                                    • raymor
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 3745
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      We prefer Directadmin, which Amerinoc uses, to Cpanel. Directadmin gives you a more sanely configured server by default. Cpanel beats the hell out of Plesk though. Plesk does some EXTREMELY stupid things which virtually guarantee that your server will be severly hacked. Specifically, by default Plesk sets it so that all visitors to your site are allowed to edit the site.

                                                                                      Originally posted by stach14
                                                                                      I say to everyone I talk to, why not go managed and let the people that deal with servers for a life handle the server end of things. This gives you more time to work on your site and build your traffic.
                                                                                      Absolutely. Although we've been doing server admin for fifteen years and I have some involvement with developing Apache itself, even we have begun to turn the hardware side over to hardware people. Figure out what you do best and do it, letting other people do what they do best. That's the only reason we don't live in mud huts anymore - because we pay the construction people to do construction while we each do our own specific jobs.
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                                                                                        • raymor
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                          • 3745
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          One more comment about "easy". It's easy to slowly but completely screw up your system, until it gets so bad you finally realize you need an expert to spend many hours fixing it. We just billed $2000 for straightening out a huge mess made by someone who was "learning" system adminstration by ruining the source of their income. Instead, they could have spent maybe $300 to have a competent midlevek tech run it from the start.
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                                                                                            • Klen
                                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                                              • 32235
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by raymor
                                                                                              One more comment about "easy". It's easy to slowly but completely screw up your system, until it gets so bad you finally realize you need an expert to spend many hours fixing it. We just billed $2000 for straightening out a huge mess made by someone who was "learning" system adminstration by ruining the source of their income. Instead, they could have spent maybe $300 to have a competent midlevek tech run it from the start.
                                                                                              Madness,i would charge only 100$,which is my universal fee to fix any kind of mess.

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                                                                                                • Alex69
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                                  • 328
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  unless something goes wrong - you don't need to do anything

                                                                                                  if it does - you will end up paying some geek $100/h to fix it

                                                                                                  for me it is less expensive to pay someone when sth is wrong as having managed servers - and i have 3 hexa core servers now

                                                                                                  also if sth is very very wrong or servers being hached - just get new servers and extract backups / move users - way cheapper and faster as fixing

                                                                                                  I like direct admin too + they have good support that fixed my servers for free ( error was on DA side)

                                                                                                  also fuck vps, get dedicated servers - if you cant afford them - go look for a job and stop wasting your time on GFY
                                                                                                  Last edited by Alex69; 07-03-2011, 01:08 PM.

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                                                                                                    • TurboAngel
                                                                                                      H.B.I.C.
                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                      • 30122
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Socks
                                                                                                      It's very, very, very easy.

                                                                                                      Until something goes wrong.
                                                                                                      That's the truth!


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                                                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                                                          • 19788
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Is it easy to manage a server?
                                                                                                          Yes
                                                                                                          But is it easy to serve a manager?
                                                                                                          No.
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                                                                                                            • Overload
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                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                                              • 3185
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              choopa FTW ;) managed of coz ... eases life a lot - many tech peeps on icq (or quickly at it if you submit a ticket) and (if it ever happens) downtime is minutes only :D at least thats my experience with them :D no need for a referral link ... just go for it ... choopa.com
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                                                                                                                • Adraco
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • May 2009
                                                                                                                  • 3745
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Amerinoc is famous for one thing - its amazingly qualified support!
                                                                                                                  You simply will NOT find another company who will serve you better or more professional, than Amerinoc. I've been with them for years and for good reasons, they are today powering my entire business, for the one and only reason - that they do it much better than anyone else.

                                                                                                                  I you aren't part of the Amerinoc family yet, please do give it a try and you will never look back, ever again.
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                                                                                                                    • raymor
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                      • 3745
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Adraco
                                                                                                                      Amerinoc is famous for one thing - its amazingly qualified support!
                                                                                                                      You simply will NOT find another company who will serve you better or more professional, than Amerinoc. I've been with them for years and for good reasons, they are today powering my entire business, for the one and only reason - that they do it much better than anyone else.

                                                                                                                      I you aren't part of the Amerinoc family yet, please do give it a try and you will never look back, ever again.
                                                                                                                      True. Their competency is way above almost all others. This is coming from a guy who is paid to provide highly competent admin services himself. Their email support is also very fast. We only do not recommend them if phone support is important to you. They don't answer the phone most of the time.
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                                                                                                                        • drmadcat
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                          • 2024
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i know there is no post on here for wiredtree.com but there packages look great with vps and dedicated
                                                                                                                          asiamoviepass.com

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                                                                                                                            • sadiedazzle
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Apr 2011
                                                                                                                              • 972
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              OMG...it's so much work running sites these days. Why try and add to the amount of work by running your own server? Just my two cents. I know that mojohost is there for me 24/7 and when shit happens you really need that sort of service and expertise.

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                                                                                                                                • facialfreak
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 3018
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CYF
                                                                                                                                  well, if you have to ask, you should probably go managed
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                                                                                                                                    • d-null
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 13724
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by drmadcat
                                                                                                                                      .......
                                                                                                                                      by the way, your sig is too big: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962
                                                                                                                                      and over the years godaddy doesn't have the greatest reputation among many in the adult business either

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                                                                                                                                        • drmadcat
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                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                                                                                                          • 2024
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by d-null
                                                                                                                                          by the way, your sig is too big: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=950962
                                                                                                                                          and over the years godaddy doesn't have the greatest reputation among many in the adult business either
                                                                                                                                          sig amended thanks
                                                                                                                                          asiamoviepass.com

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                                                                                                                                            • My Pimp
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 1201
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              You do not need managed if you only want to add domains.
                                                                                                                                              You just need cpanel.
                                                                                                                                              But managed servers coest only a few dollars more
                                                                                                                                              and they will answer all your questions. That is why beginners should
                                                                                                                                              start with a managed sever.

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                                                                                                                                                • Emil
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                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                  • 5658
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I've had a server with Wiredtree. If I remember correctly the support turned pretty bad after a while. This was back in 2009.
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                                                                                                                                                    • Emil
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                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                      • 5658
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I've hired this guy before: http://www.supportm.com/
                                                                                                                                                      He's awesome and only cost $50/month.

                                                                                                                                                      I do have a server I manage myself. I did let some techguy set it up and install everything I needed and remove stuff I didn't need like FTP, Email and other stuff.
                                                                                                                                                      Changed MySQL and SSH standard ports and many other security-related things I dont remember.

                                                                                                                                                      I have automatic updates turned on and just login to Webmin once in a while to check if everything is OK.
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