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Old 07-01-2011, 09:16 PM   #1
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JFK is having a meltdown ... call 911 for emergency

OMG people did you know there is more than one photographer that covers the adult webmaster gathers? Did you also know there is more than one hosting, billing, webdesign, an affiliate program out there? We have some serious problems. Competition in the marketplace exists.

In the real world which some of you have lost touch with, there are a multitude of options for products and services. In the USA for example: Kinkos, Staples, Office Depot and UPS Store for printing needs. If your hungry for a hamburger there is McDonalds, Burger King, Carls Jr, Rallys, Fat Burger, In and Out, and thousands of other places.

The reality is that most of you do not attend the shows, hence never having the opportunity to meet either myself, or the lead photographer Buster. Btw, everyone loves a little drama, I am the first one to check in at places like the Zoo, to give myself a minutes worth of entertainment and the same news I can find on CNN.

Does the drama bother me personally? Yes and No. The fire which is fueled by posts submitted by friends of JFK, silly trolls, and those that dont know us, only brings awareness of NALEM which results in traffic. Once the site visitor is there, they decide for themselves if they like the user platform or not.

What really saddens me, is that many of you waste your energy on bitching and complaining, and spend way too much time on the boards, instead of focusing on your own business, and what you need to do to make some $. Yes $ can still be made.

Unlike the fools that post private email and chat communications on the boards, or like to air their personal or business problems that they have with others in this industry, I have resisted the urge to divulge the issues that should not exist between JFK and myself.


Below you will find an edited post that JFK decided to publish on another board known as SC. The unedited version can be at post #167 on the SC board at http://www._____________.com/showthr...629#post310629



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You guys are NOTHING but a cheap fucking copycat of FUBAR, ....

You guys have copied all the marketing methods we have done for years. ....

I would not be so proud of that!! STOP using my name to sell your ads for 1/2 price you're not worth anywhere near that !!



"A few years ago you were politely told at Cybernet Expo to back off the threats, and that any photos taken at webmaster gatherings, were for the radio station, and that as such we were not intending to compete for your audience or advertisers.

I told you then if you continue the threats, I would open a site to complete in the marketplace. You continued to bully people Julius, and I have kept my promise. I was patient with you for 4+ years.

The only three things we have in common is that we both speak HU, both attend webmaster gatherings, and we both provide photo coverage using a pro camera.

The comparison stops there. NALEM and Fubarwebmasters are worlds apart in the user experience and advertising channels it offers its clients.

People closest to you have already told me about your horrible demeanor. I had assumed it was only towards us. You really are a sorry POS. For 5 years I reached out to shake your hands and say hello everytime we crossed paths. Putting aside your attitude with us, I scored you the box lunch for the golf tournament at TPF, when I saw your golf cart didnt have one. I dont recall you saying thank you, but then again that is not your style.

I can afford to risk NALEM to the winds of change. Can you say that about your site. You will cause your own self destruction, though I wholeheartedly dont wish that upon you, because I know there is room for several photographers, and you must support your family.

Thank you for your explosive moment here Julius. I think I will have my worker repost it to all the boards, just like we do with the event coverage. I will take heat for it, and your friends will help fuel the fire. Time will tell how things play out.

All the best,

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first in to laugh at NALEM

You took money from .xxx and I hope you fail miserably as a result.

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Old 07-01-2011, 09:19 PM   #6
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all I can say is not only are you a cheap ripoff of an original, but you are also a whiny fuck who supports .xxx. at least when boneprone posts fake shit about you, it's funny. your shit is weak, weak, weak. i hope that all shows ban your ass outright.
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Nalem, I think it would be best if you let someone more professional handle your public relations. Chris Lebrun and Alienq are currently available for work.
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Boys and girls, I need to step away for a bit. Will check in with you all shortly. Till then ...
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Serious question, why are the NALEM photos mostly all out of focus ? Photographer lost his contact lenses or what ?
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Yes, there is more than one billing company and one hosting company. But with FUBAR it was different - It didn't belong to JFK, it belonged to all of us; It belonged to the entire industry. I understand it's a business for him, and I understand he makes money off of us - But he filled a special niche and was there from the beginning.

All you've done is ripped off the original, and the only reason your in business is because XXX is tossing tons of cash at you. Your burning bridges, and burning them quickly.

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Hey Tart...

.xxx nuff said. You fucked yourself not JFK. Stop reaching for someone to bring down with you.
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Wow...let's slow down here. If NALEM didn't support this .xxx shit would your main issue with him be about starting a competitive business?
I have a lot of issues with NALEM.
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Wow...let's slow down here. If NALEM didn't support this .xxx shit would your main issue with him be about starting a competitive business?
I can only speak for myself, Nalem was tolerated, his spam I just ignored. Till he decided to become a marketing pawn of .XXX

Now the spam he does is not only for him, but for .XXX

Truthfully, with the amount of shit I've heard this past week who are in bed with .XXX to market them, buying up competitor urls, I am about done with all of you fuckers.

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Nalem, about that free market and competition thing. It means everyone is entitled to CHOOSE to do business with, or ... in your case, NOT.

How's that .XXX working out for you? I hope it offsets the losses you've incurred from the other sponsors pulling out.
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I can only speak for myself, Nalem was tolerated, his spam I just ignored. Till he decided to become a marketing pawn of .XXX

Now the spam he does is not only for him, but for .XXX

Truthfully, with the amount of shit I've heard this past week who are in bed with .XXX to market them, buying up competitor urls, I am about done with all of you fuckers.

This industry's worst enemy has always been it's members.
When it gets to the point where people make avatars bashing you, it's pretty bad.
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I can only speak for myself, Nalem was tolerated, his spam I just ignored. Till he decided to become a marketing pawn of .XXX

Now the spam he does is not only for him, but for .XXX

Truthfully, with the amount of shit I've heard this past week who are in bed with .XXX to market them, buying up competitor urls, I am about done with all of you fuckers.

This industry's worst enemy has always been it's members.
Yep, he's basically their in-house ad agency.

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Truthfully, with the amount of shit I've heard this past week who are in bed with .XXX to market them, buying up competitor urls, I am about done with all of you fuckers.
Who have you heard? You are the second person to say that in as many days but no one names names. Why is that?
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Obviously, and I agree it was a poor choice to support .xxx and then open a competing business he's currently in. I'd even say it was fucking stupid, but could you answer my question?
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Wow...let's slow down here. If NALEM didn't support this .xxx shit would your main issue with him be about starting a competitive business?
Would my main issue with him being starting a competitive business? No, my main concern would not be that he's opened up a competitive business that competes with FUBAR. If he never got involved with XXX, I would still dislike him because of his (a) arrogance and (b) spamming. I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ (pun intended) he posted this exact thread on multiple boards.

That's just the start of my issues.

I wouldn't even call this a competitive business. Similar business model, but poorly executed.
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Would my main issue with him being starting a competitive business? No, my main concern would not be that he's opened up a competitive business that competes with FUBAR. If he never got involved with XXX, I would still dislike him because of his (a) arrogance and (b) spamming. I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ (pun intended) he posted this exact thread on multiple boards.

That's just the start of my issues.

I wouldn't even call this a competitive business. Similar business model, but poorly executed.
You Richard were among the guilty parties back a few years ago, all too eager to help out Julius (JFK) without knowing the facts. You never knew who I was until I introduced myself to you at YnotSummit. Without divulging everything, I will leave the following keyword for you to ponder: frankie
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Who have you heard? You are the second person to say that in as many days but no one names names. Why is that?
Who turned off Multi Quote?!

Baddog, as with all rumors it's not worth repeating. It wasn't a very big surprise when I was told, though.

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]You've been around a long time and understand you're probably venting right now, but common, what did you think was going to happen when .xxx passed? It's always been about the money and always will. Shocked from a guy like you having this type of response.
I personally think it's a travesty. One of the shakers and movers of .XXX at a Vegas show didn't like the fact I was with a pretty blonde and told me to "Go back to my own country". Considering I was in my country and he wasn't, I found it amusing. The fact that I could have broken his neck anytime I wanted too made me just walk away. That's the type of person you have behind the scenes at .XXX and ICM.

Before I'm hit with holier than thou type posts, I had to work with that fucktard later on down the road. I made the call to leave a project because I wanted nothing to do with that racist fuck. You are absoultely right, "It's all about the money" for some people, but I chose the morals I can afford, and I can afford not to do business with certain people.
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Wow...let's slow down here. If NALEM didn't support this .xxx shit would your main issue with him be about starting a competitive business?
I met these clowns a while back, before the .xxx thing and I didn't like them on first meeting. I have a finely honed douche bag detector and these guy set it off like a fucking Ed Hardy enthusiast convention.
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I met these clowns a while back, before the .xxx thing and I didn't like them on first meeting. I have a finely honed douche bag detector and these guy set it off like a fucking Ed Hardy enthusiast convention.
Does Shad have the same opinion?
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I personally feel bad by reading the characterization of POS for JFK. Unfair is little. If he was anything close to that the adult industry would have figured it over the years. The opposite, I, like the vast majority of ppl here consider him an honest, serious professional and a good character to hang out with. I believe being upset made you take this further than it should be.
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I personally feel bad by reading the characterization of POS for JFK. Unfair is little. If he was anything close to that the adult industry would have figured it over the years. The opposite, I, like the vast majority of ppl here consider him an honest, serious professional and a good character to hang out with. I believe being upset made you take this further than it should be.
Julius is a mainstay at any show. I would even go as far as saying an Icon at any industry event. And good people.
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I personally feel bad by reading the characterization of POS for JFK. Unfair is little. If he was anything close to that the adult industry would have figured it over the years. The opposite, I, like the vast majority of ppl here consider him an honest, serious professional and a good character to hang out with. I believe being upset made you take this further than it should be.
Theo there is a 5 year history which you have not personally witnessed. He may be a great husband to Sandra, a wonderful father to his children, and a good friend to some of you ... but he has chosen to be a POS with me, and certain people I cooperate with, ever since he saw me bring a another pro photographer to the shows several years ago. People who have worked closely with him have complained about his demeanor to me.

I excused his behaviour, on the fact that Julius like many others was entering some financially challenging times. There was a series of shows he covered without sponsors. I could only imagine his fear when he saw someone else enter a market he had covered alone for all these years. His friends began to muscle the people who asked us to cover the shows. What his friends didnt know, was they were in fact old friends with the people they began to harass. The confusion was between the real names and monikers used in adult.

Here is the irony in all of it. We were not there to cut into his audience and advertisers, and even after bad things happened, I still went out of my way to reassure him that we are not entering his market. I did ask him to back off, or else I would become a competitor. Every show we crossed paths, I would say hello to him, and shake his hand, including YnotSummit.

There is so much more I could reveal, but I have committed myself to not disclose more than I have already, and to not bring heat on those that confided in me.
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Julius is a mainstay at any show. I would even go as far as saying an Icon at any industry event. And good people.
I agree with you Anthony 110%, he is a mainstay, and even I cannot imagine a show without Julius being around to cover it. He should continue to do what he does best for years more to come.
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Theo there is a 5 year history which you have not personally witnessed. He may be a great husband to Sandra, a wonderful father to his children, and a good friend to some of you ... but he has chosen to be a POS with me, and certain people I cooperate with, ever since he saw me bring a another pro photographer to the shows several years ago. People who have worked closely with him have complained about his demeanor to me.

I excused his behaviour, on the fact that Julius like many others was entering some financially challenging times. There was a series of shows he covered without sponsors. I could only imagine his fear when he saw someone else enter a market he had covered alone for all these years. His friends began to muscle the people who asked us to cover the shows. What his friends didnt know, was they were in fact old friends with the people they began to harass. The confusion was between the real names and monikers used in adult.

Here is the irony in all of it. We were not there to cut into his audience and advertisers, and even after bad things happened, I still went out of my way to reassure him that we are not entering his market. I did ask him to back off, or else I would become a competitor. Every show we crossed paths, I would say hello to him, and shake his hand, including YnotSummit.

There is so much more I could reveal, but I have committed myself to not disclose more than I have already, and to not bring heat on those that confided in me.
Normally I don't respond to you, but you piqued my interest. How long has Buster been shooting for you? As for competitor, I've never seen JFK act in this manner with Mikey B. In fact the opposite. He's bee around a long time as well.
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Normally I don't respond to you, but you piqued my interest. How long has Buster been shooting for you? As for competitor, I've never seen JFK act in this manner with Mikey B. In fact the opposite. He's bee around a long time as well.
Buster has been working with me 3 almost 4 years.

Mike B prints all of Julius magazines and calendars.
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There he goes again, using my name to get views. Nothing worse than someone who is 2 faced, comes at you smiling and talks shit about behind your back for years. Posting about imagined conversations he had with me.
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Buster has been working with me 3 almost 4 years.

Mike B prints all of Julius magazines and calendars.
I've let Buster in my suite and parties to take pics. Nice enough guy. I'll try not to hold him working with you against him.
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There he goes again, using my name to get views. Nothing worse than someone who is 2 faced, comes at you smiling and talks shit about behind your back for years. Posting about imagined conversations he had with me.
You deny the chat we had in SF 2 years ago, when Ynot Summit was Cybernet Expo?

I aint talking shit behind your back Jules, I am talking shit here and on the other 30 boards that your fan base decides to post in.
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You need a pr guy...really!

To me this comes over as a lame attempt to get some more PVs, good luck with that.
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Don't see any meltdown, just nalem whining about the hole they dug for themselves.
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