skibbidy

With the exception of GFY you are banned on all the boards that I frequent including the one that I mod.

Not a good day to be NALEM ...

Never a good day to be Nalem...

Quoted for unequivocal truth. You don't want to know what I would say if ever asked to describe the majority of the Industry in 1 word.

well GlobalCorp I do wanna know what you would say to describe the majority of the Industry and ok you can use more words then 1.
so go ahead.

To anyone that does not want their photo taken by me, simply come up and request that you not be photographed. I will tell you that I will do my best to avoid you, and if you are caught, simply request the photo be removed.

However, it is also your duty to not pose in group photos. This method is proven to work.

what does xxx really wants?

I'm sure your views would be greatly valued :thumbsup

well Baddog, you still do not get the picture, pun intended.
we should not ask you, again take any picture you want but do not publish in on the web without approval, so ........... enjoy the European Shows and take any pictures you like but DO NOT PUBLISH them without written approval.

GlobalCorp give me the one or more words please

Don't want to take away from the thread, but BF's post pretty much sums it up. Complete unorganization is so disgustingly childish.

I don't know, or even understand enough about .xxx to comment on that one way or the other in regard to NALEM, but as usual, this is the most idiotic thing to do. Wouldn't expect anything less at this point.

Do what you have to do and I will do what I have to do. Simple.

well that was more then one word. but heh get your point.

ok Baddog so we have an understanding now, you take my pic and publish it without my approval on the Internet and I get you arrested before your plane leaves?

Or in the case you leave my country first and then publish any pic of me without my approval, I will first go after you, your assets and then ofcourse the pics.

My advice is very simple. enjoy the show(s) and let JFK do his thing and try to find out the european laws about privacy before you act.
end of discussion.

Knock yourself out. I put up my pics at the end of each day so that should make it easy on you.

There's no benefit in being nice to them either. Their entire business model is based on spreading FUD and profiting from it. Since the very beginning they've been lying to us, to ICANN, to the media,....

why do you think they keep going to conferences? To try and convince us to buy .xxx domains? Wrong! They go to conferences because they want to be able to pretend and trick politicians into believing that they are not only part of this industry but also represent it.

We need to keep fighting them. Keep posting "fuck dotxxx" in every ICM/.xxx related thread. Keep posting comments on news articles. Keep telling the truth. Keep exposing the fact that the ICM does not represent us. Keep exposing the fact that the ICM has lied to us on several occasions. Continue to shun people who do business with the ICM.

We need to keep ignoring those defeatist comments that this industry is lost and can't organize. We don't need to "organize" at all. What we need and what we have is personal initiative. We have shown that thousands of adult webmasters can take the initiative to open their email client and email ICANN. We have shown that hundreds of webmasters can take the initiative to tweet like hell against the .xxx tld. We have shown that webmasters will take the initiative to flame any GFY user who thinks it might be a good idea to accept money from the ICM.

And we need to keep in mind that they (hte ICM) are one of our enemies. And you don't work with your enemies. You fight them. you don't offer advice on how they might be able to improve their product. You fight them.

If someone wants to rape you in the ass, you don't tell him "please use some lube so the whole experience will be less painful". Instead, you take a machete and defend yourself!

Excellent post. Fuck .XXX and Fuck Nalem.

There you have it, the average Adult Webmaster.

Fuck .xxx

Nail em

Instead of waiting for some leader or panel of industry wise men to tell me what to do, I do what I can, where I can.

Personal initiative and personal responsibility!

haters = hate.

Taking pics is so 90's

Just passing through ....

At no point did I suggest that anyone should work with them, nor did I suggest that anyone even needs to be nice to them. (Them being .XXX OR Nalem) I am personally very firmly against .XXX. Hell - I was at the San Francisco ICANN meeting in March. My choice to behave civilly toward individuals has nothing at all to do with my opinion of the product they're selling.

Ultimately I think you missed my point. I think the outrage that we see displayed here is a good thing as it keeps the issue at the forefront of peoples minds. My concern with all the talk of banning anything at all to do with .XXX from shows, from boards, etc - is that if it isn't in our collective faces - it's easy to say, "Meh, not seeing it now, so it's a non-issue." In this scenario, complacency is just as, if not more detrimental than FUD tactics, IMO.

I like this one on first page^^

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
now that is some funny shit.

If that's him in the avatar pic then please for the love of god don't post any pics of him!

Why? Should there also only be one webmaster resource site or forum?

Most shows have you sign a waiver that pics will be taken and published and that you agree to it. Ours included.

Oh give me a break, there shouldn't be a monopoly on press or photo/video coverage of any gathering or convention. Having registered and approved press/photographers is a different story.

The issue isn't who and how many people take photos at webmaster events it's that these Nalem guys are taking advertising money from an organization that's main purpose is to profit by hurting our industry.

There was a backlash against those companies that settled with Acicia and this is no different. You get in bed with the wrong people don't cry when you get labeled as a venereal disease.

Creating new threads for each picture that's taken doesn't help Nalem's cause.

Have to agree with Andrea... it's not a bad thing to have ICM in our faces all the time. Why? Because I am THAT sure that the facts are not on their side, and the danger comes from the industry NOT being informed about what it means when you buy and use these domain names.

I've always felt that debating .XXX with ICM is a pretty straight-forward task. They just don't have the advantage of having something that most of us want. And when you take even a calm and calculated look at .XXX domain names, even if you ARE willing to screw over the rest of the industry, using them STILL just makes no sense.

So... even the people who took the "I don't care, I just want to make money, I'll work with those guys, screw everyone else" approach to the tubes.. EVEN those guys, if they take a good look at .XXX, they'll pass too... for their OWN good, even if they could care less about the collective good.

Now if the people from ICM are there making their best arguments and can't respond with a list of benefits that outweigh the likely negatives and liabilities and risks involved when you use these domains... then I can't see what's more convincing than that to get people to not use them.

And the beauty is... anyone who DOES buy these domain names, they're mostly hurting themselves as long as too many people don't start buying them. So the few fools who don't get the message will reap what they sow.

All this said... like I told Alex at the show, I thought it was a really really bad idea for him to take that sponsorship, and I don't think the online community will forget it anytime soon.

It would send a message to anyone else thinking of getting in bed with them, that much is true.

stop spamming your shit

Dutch law? lol. Do they fine you in you tulips? Take away your bicycle?

Thumblord is right about the laws :)If you learn Dutch you can read it.
http://www.iusmentis.com/auteursrech.../portretrecht/

Do Dogs get along with Mice? - http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/58464/mu...is-havenstraat

yes Bjorn_Tasty1 I was thinking about "portretrecht" and it would be good IMHO to get official approved press/photographers in our business.

NALEM & .XXX, if you were Asian i would marry you. If you had a vagina, i would fuck the shit out of you for many many years.

I think the AVN article stated that baddog would be approved. Did you read that?

Who cares about that old fart

goodgirl I have no clue what you are talking about?
where is the link to the article please?
and again as stated we do have very strict privacy laws in the Netherlands.

anyway lets see how this goes, although it was not ment to be against Baddog but against Nalem and/or others that will be taking pictures of anybody that visits any Shows in Europe and use it for their own advantage ( paid by .xxx ) I urge anybody to fucking read the laws of the country/countries you are operating in.

And again just publish any photo without permission on the Internet and you could get in trouble as long as you are not aware of local laws.

BTW I think Baddog should not take pictures at all, but that is my personal opinion, same goes for you.

The first post in this thread has the link. I assumed people read things before they start bashing.

Quote from the article:

shut up good girl

go away troll

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ABbQ0COQGb...roll_spray.jpg

ok I missed the part of "Baddog will be allowed to take pictures" strangely enough.
so take pics and any pics of me on the Internet will be taken care off by using the dutch law.
I will indentify myself at the Show and will ask you NOT to take any pictures of me, if you comply np, if not, face my wrath old fart.

so since that is settled I will take a piss and get me some beer.

You are such a pussy. I just posted your pic all over facebook calling you a dirty pornographer.

True, but i have to put a sign up to make it effective i read.

"Portret recht" is very strict with privacy, erotic events are even mentioned.
Though more a Wasteland party as an example that people have privacy and pictures might not be published without written permission. That will qualify for the big friday night party.

But i think it is normal that peoples pictures are taken down when asked and i am sure that most photograpers do that, at least the ones that are allowed to take pictures. No need for court orders and police.

So we need a sign:

Photographing prohibited, except recognized photographers. The photographers will remove your picture from their sites and won't use them in print when asked for it.

Isn't that what I said yesterday? Enjoy the beer.

I know JFK and I both remove photos with no problem. I suspect MikeB does as well. I would be surprised if Alex did not.