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  • Caligari
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    • Oct 2009
    • 5414
    #1

    NEW San Francisco Bay Bridge...MADE IN CHINA

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Bridge...93098.html?x=0
    Now read this-
    Pan Zhongwang, a 55-year-old steel polisher, is a typical Zhenhua worker. He arrives at 7 a.m. and leaves at 11 p.m., often working seven days a week. He lives in a company dorm and earns about $12 a day.

    “It used to be $9 a day, now it’s $12,” he said Wednesday morning, while polishing one of the decks for the new Bay Bridge. “Everything is getting more expensive. They should raise our pay.”
    It is indicative of the times, soon large parts of the U.S. will be fabricated in China from bridges to statues to buildings and chinese workers will be making 50 cents an hour to do it.
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    • candyflip
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      • Jul 2002
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      #2
      They make $12 a day. You say that's $.50 per hour of work.

      Might want to rethink that one again

      Spend you some brain.
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        • Vendzilla
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          • Mar 2004
          • 23200
          #3
          HAHAHAHAHA, probably funded by Obama's stimulus fund
          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
          think about that

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            • Caligari
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              • Oct 2009
              • 5414
              #4
              Originally posted by candyflip
              They make $12 a day. You say that's $.50 per hour of work.

              Might want to rethink that one again
              oh my god you're right, i was using the old 9 dollars a day factor, at 12 dollars and 16 hours every day its gone all the way up to 75 cents an hour, i guess that blows that low wage theory huh?
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                • Caligari
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                  HAHAHAHAHA, probably funded by Obama's stimulus fund
                  actually republican schwarzenfucker was behind it 100 percent.

                  that is, when he wasn't behind his mistress giving her the terminator seed hahahaha
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                    • StickyGreen
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                      • Oct 2003
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                      HAHAHAHAHA, probably funded by Obama's stimulus fund
                      Dude, you're such a tool with that 2-party bullshit...

                      Bush, McCain, and whoever the fuck else is just as corrupt as Clinton, Obama... and the rest of em...

                      Wake the fuck up already, how can you not see through the bullshit?
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                        • 96ukssob
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 12991
                          #7
                          the problem is we, in the US will never do a job that doesnt pay 2x what it should.

                          people here complain all the time they deserved to get paid more, but in reality, they should be paid LESS
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                            • L-Pink
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 39151
                              #8
                              $I.00 an hour is less than most US workers cost their employers in health care. And about what a US employer has to match just for the employees FICA contribution.

                              There is no way a US employer can meet the requirements to pay a decent wage, pay FICA, and the benefits demanded by our society when that same society accepts goods made from countries with none of the US requirements.

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                                • Caligari
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by bossku69
                                  the problem is we, in the US will never do a job that doesnt pay 2x what it should.

                                  people here complain all the time they deserved to get paid more, but in reality, they should be paid LESS
                                  thats telling them hoss, and while you're at it, whats the deal with having actual floors in their houses? isn't dirt good enough for them? and don't get me started on college tuition, where do they get off paying so little? why not double or triple that shit, that will show them how to appreciate 12 dollars a day hard chinese labor when it comes knocking on their doors in a few years.
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                                    • L-Pink
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                                      • Mar 2005
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                                      #10
                                      For California, of all states, with the high/expensive to conform to environmental and workers benefits laws to allow a foreign country with none of these mandatory expenses to bypass them with a foreign product is hypocrisy in it's highest form. Pitiful.

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                                        • sicone
                                          Retired
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 18453
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                          HAHAHAHAHA, probably funded by Obama's stimulus fund
                                          I'm pretty sure the project on the Bay Bridge started before Obama took office. Though I didn't look it up so I may be wrong

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                                            • Barry-xlovecam
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                                              • Jun 2010
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                                              #12
                                              The Transcontinental Railroad completed on May 10, 1869 was built with cheap Chinese Coolie and Irish labor and USA survived it ...

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                                                • XPays
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                                                  it is looking pretty pimp. i took a helicopter over the construction.
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                                                    • Rochard
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                                                      #14
                                                      How the fuck can China be making such shit? They are known for cheap shit, not important stuff that requires precision.
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                                                        • L-Pink
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                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                          • 39151
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                          How the fuck can China be making such shit? They are known for cheap shit, not important stuff that requires precision.
                                                          And how can a state/country make minimum requirements on pay, benefits, and environmental regulations for domestic workers and companies then turn around and pay a foreign country that doesn't have to meet the same minimum requirements they require for their own workers and companies.

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                                                            • Vendzilla
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                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 23200
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                              The Transcontinental Railroad completed on May 10, 1869 was built with cheap Chinese Coolie and Irish labor and USA survived it ...
                                                              at least they were in the US at the time
                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                              think about that

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                                                                  $12 a day may seem low but the measure should be comparative purchasing power.

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                                                                    • marketsmart
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                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                      • 20419
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                      HAHAHAHAHA, probably funded by Obama's stimulus fund
                                                                      god you're an idiot..

                                                                      if obama did fund it, then good for him because he just saved the american people billions of dollars on lazy american workers and corrupt contractors..

                                                                      but of course he didnt and you would still complain that he was spending too much if he went with US companies and workers..

                                                                      you need to grow up and start focusing your energy on the whole rather than your guy isn't as good as my guy nonsense that you preach so much...

                                                                      you and that other fucking idiot 12 hammers..





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                                                                        • Bryan G
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Vendzilla do you think before you post?
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                                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                              • 39151
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                              $12 a day may seem low but the measure should be comparative purchasing power.
                                                                              Actually the minimum should be that foreign workers and factories have to meet the same requirements that we impose on our own workers and factories when comparing prices.

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                                                                                • _Richard_
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                                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                                  • 30991
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                  How the fuck can China be making such shit? They are known for cheap shit, not important stuff that requires precision.
                                                                                  ahh the ugly head of 'belief'

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                                                                                    • Brujah
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                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 22157
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      What IS the comparative purchasing power? What does a day's wage or $12 buy for these workers?

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                                                                                        • Bryan G
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                          How the fuck can China be making such shit? They are known for cheap shit, not important stuff that requires precision.
                                                                                          Hahaha ok then. Same question I asked Vend, do you think before you post??
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                                                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                              What IS the comparative purchasing power? What does a day's wage or $12 buy for these workers?
                                                                                              That isn't the issue the issue is .....

                                                                                              Make china pay the same federally mandated minimum wage we require. Make china figure in the same 15% FICA taxes on payroll. Make chinese factories pay for and comply with the same environmental impact studies and requirements of our own factories. Make chinese employers follow the same overtime laws, the same benefit packages, the same OSHA laws ???.

                                                                                              Suddenly the playing field is level.

                                                                                              For US consumers to revel in lower prices based on standards we deem unacceptable on our own land is hard to comprehend. The only explanation is we value nature and human beings that aren't American as beneath us. We will save money by ignoring the minimum standards we require of ourselves.

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                                                                                                • seeandsee
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                                                                                                  and some people still ask, how is chine such great economy, economy of working 1$ hour people, real heros of modern world...
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                                                                                                        • Bladewire
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                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                          • 56228
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Caligari
                                                                                                          It is indicative of the times, soon large parts of the U.S. will be fabricated in China from bridges to statues to buildings and chinese workers will be making 50 cents an hour to do it.
                                                                                                          You do know why we import oil and cheap chinese goods right?
                                                                                                          Last edited by Bladewire; 06-28-2011, 03:23 PM.


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                                                                                                            • Caligari
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                                                              and some people still ask, how is chine such great economy, economy of working 1$ hour people, real heros of modern world...
                                                                                                              yes because they've mastered the art of slave labor with a completely trained population.
                                                                                                              work like a slave for the greater good, it will set you free...
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                                                                                                                • Caligari
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Squirtit
                                                                                                                  You do know why we import oil and cheap chinese goods right?
                                                                                                                  oil = who framed roger rabbit. if you think that sounds ridiculous watch that movie again.

                                                                                                                  chinese goods= any number of bills and laws signed, mostly beginning with ronnie raygun (japanese steel) and continuing with bush, clinton (nafta) etc allowing for
                                                                                                                  a)cheap importation of goods
                                                                                                                  b)subsidizing exportation of factories overseas to make goods for slave wages which are then exported back to the U.S.

                                                                                                                  i find this story really amazing because as far as chinese goods are concerned, so far china has exported toxic lead contaminated toys and drywall to the u.s. causing millions of dollars in damages, sickness etc.

                                                                                                                  so they are trusting these people to build a bridge that cars actually go over
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                                                                                                                    • Vendzilla
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                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                      Dude, you're such a tool with that 2-party bullshit...

                                                                                                                      Bush, McCain, and whoever the fuck else is just as corrupt as Clinton, Obama... and the rest of em...

                                                                                                                      Wake the fuck up already, how can you not see through the bullshit?
                                                                                                                      It was funded in 2005, I live in California you moron and I don't like either party, maybe if you weren't such a tool, you would have known that.

                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sicone
                                                                                                                      I'm pretty sure the project on the Bay Bridge started before Obama took office. Though I didn't look it up so I may be wrong
                                                                                                                      It was started in 2005, I remember when Arnold got the funding and I heard from the union I belong to about it

                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Bryan G
                                                                                                                      Vendzilla do you think before you post?
                                                                                                                      At least I think, you apparently haven't the capacity

                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Bryan G
                                                                                                                      Hahaha ok then. Same question I asked Vend, do you think before you post??
                                                                                                                      and you had to ask it twice, brilliant, NOT!
                                                                                                                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                      think about that

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                                                                                                                        • Sly
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                          • 31376
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I'm kind of confused how this works.

                                                                                                                          Home Depot is in trouble for using foreign products for government contracted jobs. This job, and many others, seem to be government contracted jobs as well and clearly are using foreign constructed products.

                                                                                                                          Why aren't they in trouble?

                                                                                                                          Anyone know how that full law works? Something about "Buy American" and it was created in the 30s.
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                                                                                                                            • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                              • 39151
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Caligari

                                                                                                                              i find this story really amazing because as far as chinese goods are concerned, so far china has exported toxic lead contaminated toys and drywall to the u.s. causing millions of dollars in damages, sickness etc.
                                                                                                                              There are thousands of homes in Florida rendered worthless for occupancy or resale because of chinese drywall. The cost emotionally and financially are staggering.

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                                                                                                                                • Vendzilla
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 23200
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                  I'm kind of confused how this works.

                                                                                                                                  Home Depot is in trouble for using foreign products for government contracted jobs. This job, and many others, seem to be government contracted jobs as well and clearly are using foreign constructed products.

                                                                                                                                  Why aren't they in trouble?

                                                                                                                                  Anyone know how that full law works? Something about "Buy American" and it was created in the 30s.
                                                                                                                                  they do this using loop holes in Union Agreements
                                                                                                                                  I went thru it as a Elevator Constructor, they started using pre fab Escalators, we pretty much just had to drop them in place and plug them in, a weeks work for what use to be 6 weeks. NOw they can build pre fab 15 story buildings in China in six days
                                                                                                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                  think about that

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                                                                                                                                    • Bladewire
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                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      It helps to step outside the box and see the big picture. Greed isn't the reason our U.S. government has consistently given China more rope for U.S. imports of chinese goods.

                                                                                                                                      As far as companies fucking up and doing major damage to people and property, that's been going on since business began, in any country. No administration in the last 20 years has cared about public safety enough to beef up the USITC to stop these products from entering the U.S. in the first place. just sayin


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                                                                                                                                        • Bird
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                                                                                                                                          LIke we didn't already see that on yahoo news.
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                                                                                                                                            • marketsmart
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                                                              There are thousands of homes in Florida rendered worthless for occupancy or resale because of chinese drywall. The cost emotionally and financially are staggering.

                                                                                                                                              .
                                                                                                                                              and guess who was importing it, wholesaling it, and then retailing it...

                                                                                                                                              we always blame china, but at the root of the import is an american company that doesnt give a fuck...

                                                                                                                                              i have friends that work for US companies that have their products manufactured in china because of the cheap labor and non existent EPA that lets factories run as polluted and unsafe as they want..

                                                                                                                                              they tell me they have been in factories that are miles long and spit out products at a price that the US factories could only dream about competing with..

                                                                                                                                              and you know what.. this is all being done with the blessing of the US govt..

                                                                                                                                              someday our future sons and daughters will look back on what our govt has done in terms of building china into the empire it is and will become and curse our generation for stupidity..

                                                                                                                                              allowing the govt and large corporations to act without impunity for the sake of greed will ultimately be the downfall of our status as the greatest nation in history..

                                                                                                                                              its a shame...

                                                                                                                                              and guys like vendzilla will be at fault because instead of fighting for a bigger purpose, they continue to subscribe to what the media pitches them and that is to blame an administration rather than the whole entity...






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                                                                                                                                                • Caligari
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                                                                                  and guess who was importing it, wholesaling it, and then retailing it...

                                                                                                                                                  we always blame china, but at the root of the import is an american company that doesnt give a fuck...


                                                                                                                                                  allowing the govt and large corporations to act without impunity for the sake of greed will ultimately be the downfall of our status as the greatest nation in history..

                                                                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                                                                  actually the root of the problem is that the govt is allowing the importation
                                                                                                                                                  all of these laws that have been passed have basically sucked the factory blood out of the u.s. and none of these govt. assholes are going to do anything about it because they're all making too much money because of it.

                                                                                                                                                  allowing the govt and large corporations to act without impunity for the sake of greed will ultimately be the downfall of our status as the greatest nation in history..
                                                                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                                                                  i wasn't aware the U.S. ever had the status of greatest nation in history?
                                                                                                                                                  not knocking it mind you, but there have been many great civiliations before...
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                                                                                                                                                    • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                                                                      It was funded in 2005, I live in California you moron and I don't like either party, maybe if you weren't such a tool, you would have known that.
                                                                                                                                                      What does it being funded in 2005 or living in California have to do with my comment? lol

                                                                                                                                                      I always see you and Rochard on some Republican cheerleading dickriding shit on here...

                                                                                                                                                      Most of the rest are idiotic Democrat cheerleaders.
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by KillerK
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Bryan G
                                                                                                                                                              Vendzilla do you think before you post?
                                                                                                                                                              Is that a rhetorical question?
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                                                                                  That isn't the issue the issue is .....

                                                                                                                                                                  Make china pay the same federally mandated minimum wage we require. Make china figure in the same 15% FICA taxes on payroll. Make chinese factories pay for and comply with the same environmental impact studies and requirements of our own factories. Make chinese employers follow the same overtime laws, the same benefit packages, the same OSHA laws ???.

                                                                                                                                                                  Suddenly the playing field is level.

                                                                                                                                                                  For US consumers to revel in lower prices based on standards we deem unacceptable on our own land is hard to comprehend. The only explanation is we value nature and human beings that aren't American as beneath us. We will save money by ignoring the minimum standards we require of ourselves.

                                                                                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                                                                                  I'm pretty sure Apple could produce ipods/ipads here and still make a ton of profit. The fact that they can make MORE profit by producing in China is the key factor.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Phoenix
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      the thing about the bridge is this..it is going to cause massive traffic jams

                                                                                                                                                                      cause you know an hour after crossing that thing...you are going to have to cross it again


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                                                                                                                                                                        • Vendzilla
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 23200
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                                                                          What does it being funded in 2005 or living in California have to do with my comment? lol

                                                                                                                                                                          I always see you and Rochard on some Republican cheerleading dickriding shit on here...

                                                                                                                                                                          Most of the rest are idiotic Democrat cheerleaders.
                                                                                                                                                                          I put down Obama and you declare my party affiliation, are you sniffing paint again?

                                                                                                                                                                          When have you seen me praise the GOP? and you have the clairvoyant power to determine where I preach, you're so diluted by the two party system that those that are against the Obamanation are clearly the enemy Grand Old Party, when in fact there are more independents than either party. If you had brain cell one, and read more than the ingredients of a twinkie wrapper, you would know that.....
                                                                                                                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                                                                                                                          think about that

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                                                                                                                                                                            • iamtam
                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2010
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              funny enough, that worker is actually making a pretty good living compared to his costs of living.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Caligari
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5414
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by iamtam
                                                                                                                                                                                  funny enough, that worker is actually making a pretty good living compared to his costs of living.
                                                                                                                                                                                  oh really? i notice you have no data to back that up so heres some for ya-
                                                                                                                                                                                  Markets [Edit] Avg.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Milk (regular), 1 liter 1.69 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Loaf of Fresh White Bread (500g) 1.34 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Eggs (12) 1.51 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Fresh Cheese (1kg) 13.44 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1kg) 3.23 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Water (1.5 liter bottle) 0.53 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Bottle of Wine (Mid-Range) 9.92 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Domestic Beer (0.5 liter bottle) 0.61 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Imported Beer (0.33 liter bottle) 2.11 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Pack of Cigarettes (Marlboro) 2.19 $

                                                                                                                                                                                  Rent Per Month [Edit] Avg.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 480.32 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 237.40 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 1,125.55 $
                                                                                                                                                                                  Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 568.44 $

                                                                                                                                                                                  Median Monthly Disposable Salary (After Tax) 398.42 $

                                                                                                                                                                                  Cost of living Cheaper than most? Yes. 12 dollars a day cheap? Fuck no.
                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living...?country=China
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