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  • Gerco
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    • Nov 2005
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    #51
    Originally posted by candyflip
    so your little dog was unleashed in another dog's territory and you blame the owner and other dog?

    Sorry for your loss, but to blame the other when your dog was in their domain is retarded.

    As they say, there are no stupid dogs...only stupid owners.
    x2..........

    BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes and 1 Pomeranian. Any one of the Danes could step on the pom and kill it. Even by accident. So they have been introduced to each other correctly, and are not allowed to play with each other (read are kept separated) There is no reason for the pom to be playing with the danes. To a big dog these toy breeds are nothing more than a furry squeak toy. To blame them for being dogs is stupid. That little dog should not have been around anything larger in the first place, let alone off lease with one it it's own territory. Do a little study on dogs and how the territory thing works next time. To come here after the fact and whine and bitch is retarded. Blame the owners of the bigger dog? Retarded. Even the smallest flash of common sense should have prevented the encounter in the first place. Anyone that knows anything about dogs is going to say the same thing to you. There is a reason that even at dog parks. They separate the areas by size.
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    • michael.kickass
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      #52
      Man, I'm sorry for your dog.
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      • ajrocks
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        • Nov 2004
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        #53
        It isn't the dogs fault. It's always the owner that doesn't know how to control their animal. They should pay, and their dog should be taken away and given to someone who is able to care for the dog.
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        • Sophie Delancey
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          #54
          I'm so sorry for your loss! My cat is randomly limping and I'm losing my shit/heading to the vet, so I can only imagine how terrible you feel.
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          • candyflip
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            #55
            I really am sorry for your loss, but to talk about killing the other dog and beating up the owner. That just makes no sense to me.

            It was a fucking dog, be thankful one of your kids didn't get mauled or killed.

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            • biskoppen
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              • Mar 2003
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              #56
              I'm very sorry for your loss.. have two dogs myself

              That being said, this is a result of the lag of knowledge about how to introduce two new dogs.. that has to be on neutral ground.. letting a small dog meet a new bigger dog in his home is not a good idea at all.
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              • Phoenix
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                • Nov 2002
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                #57
                sorry to hear about your dog man...that must suck
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                • L-Pink
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                  • Mar 2005
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by candyflip

                  It was a fucking dog, be thankful one of your kids didn't get mauled or killed.
                  My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.


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                  • L-Pink
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                    • Mar 2005
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Gerco

                    BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes
                    My God just thinking of the quantity of dog shit you have to deal with grosses me out ...

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                    • biskoppen
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by L-Pink
                      My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.


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                      Yeah, but alot of people have a very strange relationship to animals.. for many of them its just a tool or something put away suffering untill its slaughtered and eaten by us.
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                      • candyflip
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                        My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.
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                        I felt the same way. Then I had children.

                        Regardless, talking about physically harming a human being over an animal is retarded. I really can't think of a better word.

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                        • Tom_PM
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                          #62
                          Sorry for your loss. Yes the owner should pay the value. In our society, pets are property. So of course that must be replaced. Take her to court if you have to, it's an open and shut case in terms of property.
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                          • CyberHustler
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Markul
                            Both dogs were not on leashes, they were in the attacking dogs home


                            Sorry for your loss. Hopefully a lesson learned here.
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                            • SmokeyTheBear
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                              • Jun 2004
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                              #64
                              2 unleashed dogs = equal blame

                              on a sidenote.. if you stuck your nose up my bum i would bite your head as well.

                              Sucks about your dog. Sucks about your gf.

                              You should be more concerned with the children than the dogs or the money.
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                              • candyflip
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                Sorry for your loss. Yes the owner should pay the value. In our society, pets are property. So of course that must be replaced. Take her to court if you have to, it's an open and shut case in terms of property.
                                You need to reread the entire story. It's open and shut, but surely not in his favor.

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                                • PR_Glen
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by garce
                                  I wouldn't actually give a shit about how much my dog costs - my last puppy (15 months old now) cost about $200.

                                  I would be on a baseball bat wielding rampage if some clueless dipshit let his big dog attack my little boy.

                                  I'm really sorry for your loss, but you should be more upset about losing a member of the family than losing 2 grand. Next time, go to a rescue and grab a mutt. Status symbols are worth nothing when they're dead.
                                  status symbols? they are call pure breads.. status has nothing to do with it.. you want a dog with birth defects, diseases and behavioral problems keep buying up those 200 dollar mutts man...

                                  what do you think happens to those mutts that people don't pay the 200 for?

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                                  • PR_Glen
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Gerco
                                    x2..........

                                    BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes and 1 Pomeranian. Any one of the Danes could step on the pom and kill it. Even by accident. So they have been introduced to each other correctly, and are not allowed to play with each other (read are kept separated) There is no reason for the pom to be playing with the danes. To a big dog these toy breeds are nothing more than a furry squeak toy. To blame them for being dogs is stupid. That little dog should not have been around anything larger in the first place, let alone off lease with one it it's own territory. Do a little study on dogs and how the territory thing works next time. To come here after the fact and whine and bitch is retarded. Blame the owners of the bigger dog? Retarded. Even the smallest flash of common sense should have prevented the encounter in the first place. Anyone that knows anything about dogs is going to say the same thing to you. There is a reason that even at dog parks. They separate the areas by size.
                                    I know lots about dogs, enough to know this is horse shit...

                                    any dog park i have been to they have separate areas for smaller dogs but nobody uses them, except for puppies, why? because people are responsible with their dogs and don't let them act all wild without some control. A healthy dog should play with all other dogs and not get too rough. If they act up or start biting at other dogs people ask them to please leave, because it is frowned upon to have a dog who can't get along with others in a dog park. Seems to make sense doesn't it?

                                    Dane's, wolfhounds, chow chows, Labs, spaniels, bulldogs, besengi's, jack russels you name it! all getting along and playing together and nobody ever getting hurt... would you bring your dog to a park ever if it wasn't like that? of course not.

                                    Maybe you should hire a trainer to work with your dogs instead and slow down on the puppy mill you have going on over there and they wouldn't be such a liability to other dogs...
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                                    • Far-L
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                                      #68
                                      You admit that your gf was at fault and you still want to put the other dog down? That is fucked up. It would be another matter if the dog ran outside, off the owner's property, and attacked your dog - then you could blame the owner and the dog. However, by your own admission, the dog was brought into the home and improperly supervised... how is that the fault of the dog?

                                      Left to their own devices, dogs would ordinarily kill runts in the the litter, not take them and make them into $2000 dollar vanities of status.

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                                      • _Richard_
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                                        #69
                                        sorry to hear

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                                        • TurboAngel
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                                          #70
                                          Sorry for your loss but you both are to blame IMO.

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                                          • ottopottomouse
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
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                                            • Gerco
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                              I know lots about dogs, enough to know this is horse shit...

                                              any dog park i have been to they have separate areas for smaller dogs but nobody uses them, except for puppies, why? because people are responsible with their dogs and don't let them act all wild without some control. A healthy dog should play with all other dogs and not get too rough. If they act up or start biting at other dogs people ask them to please leave, because it is frowned upon to have a dog who can't get along with others in a dog park. Seems to make sense doesn't it?

                                              Dane's, wolfhounds, chow chows, Labs, spaniels, bulldogs, besengi's, jack russels you name it! all getting along and playing together and nobody ever getting hurt... would you bring your dog to a park ever if it wasn't like that? of course not.

                                              Maybe you should hire a trainer to work with your dogs instead and slow down on the puppy mill you have going on over there and they wouldn't be such a liability to other dogs...
                                              Not sure exactly WTF your talking about. But, yes we do do a little breeding, and we travel the show circuit, all in an effort to bring the Dane bace to it's true glory. By no means a "puppy mill" as you put it. Our dogs are constantly winning top of their class. We even go so far as to show natural... Meaning NO CROP... cause we feel cropping serves no purpose in a modern dane and is cruel.

                                              As to the poop....

                                              Yes, there is a lot of it, so we have a custom septic system installed for the kennels. You actually wouldn't see any mess (unless they just crapped) Simple, basically hands free cleanup.

                                              Our dogs are part of our family and enjoy playtime, lots of land to run and play together etc. I take extreme pride in them. But on that note, 12 of our danes are adults, and 10 of them puppies. (one litter that we had 3 weeks ago) A top show bitch and we traveled halfway across the country to mate her with a suitable show male. We have never had an instance of uncontrolled breeding. and limit ourselves to at MOST 2 litters a year.

                                              If you think we take these dogs to dog parks your very wrong....

                                              I use to take my English Mastiff to a local park when I still lived up north. Totally segregated park by the dogs size.... regardless of the rules, only and idiot is going to put a 1 pound dog in the same playground as a 220+ pound dog... or even the smaller 70 pounders that ran played and jumped having fun. If you think different then, well, I guess you'll have a similar thread here in the future whining about how little tinkle got the shit stepped stomped of him and how somehow it's everyone else's fault....
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                                              • Tom_PM
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by candyflip
                                                You need to reread the entire story. It's open and shut, but surely not in his favor.
                                                The homeowner is responsible for controlling their dog. Even if their dog gets out of their well fenced yard and eats another dog for breakfast, the owner is still responsible under the law.
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                                                • papill0n
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by candyflip
                                                  I felt the same way. Then I had children.

                                                  Regardless, talking about physically harming a human being over an animal is retarded. I really can't think of a better word.
                                                  If you hurt my dog I would put you in hospital. Every day of the fucking week.

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                                                  • flashfire
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                                                    #75
                                                    well I dont think you need to beat anyone up they probably just as bad as you guys

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                                                    • candyflip
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                      The homeowner is responsible for controlling their dog. Even if their dog gets out of their well fenced yard and eats another dog for breakfast, the owner is still responsible under the law.
                                                      What you are saying is correct, if the dog get's out. What you seem to be missing is that...his girlfriend and the unleashed dog that died were INSIDE THE NEIGHBORS HOUSE (ie. the other dog's territory).

                                                      Completely neglecting that one important bit of information makes a HUGE bit of difference in your arguement.

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                                                      • candyflip
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by papill0n
                                                        If you hurt my dog I would put you in hospital. Every day of the fucking week.
                                                        And you'd be out a lot of money and probably spend some time in jail.

                                                        If someone or their dog were to come at my children in a similar manner, I could blow both their heads off and probably be considered a hero for it.

                                                        There's a big different between a human life and that of an animal. I didn't make that rule, society did.

                                                        This guy put the blame on someone else, got angry because he overpaid for the dead dog, and then contemplated physically harming both the owner of the other dog and the dog...and you want to justify that? Like I said, I can see someone going nuts if their children were hurt here, but it's not anywhere close to being on the same level.

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                                                        • Markul
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Gerco
                                                          x2..........

                                                          BTW... I currently own 22 (Yes Twenty Two) Great Danes and 1 Pomeranian. Any one of the Danes could step on the pom and kill it. Even by accident. So they have been introduced to each other correctly, and are not allowed to play with each other (read are kept separated) There is no reason for the pom to be playing with the danes. To a big dog these toy breeds are nothing more than a furry squeak toy. To blame them for being dogs is stupid. That little dog should not have been around anything larger in the first place, let alone off lease with one it it's own territory. Do a little study on dogs and how the territory thing works next time. To come here after the fact and whine and bitch is retarded. Blame the owners of the bigger dog? Retarded. Even the smallest flash of common sense should have prevented the encounter in the first place. Anyone that knows anything about dogs is going to say the same thing to you. There is a reason that even at dog parks. They separate the areas by size.
                                                          That's a lot of dogs.

                                                          Well we had 2 poms now 1. The dog that killed it was a Danish Swedish Farm Dog. A dog that's usually known for being good around animals. How were we to know that it'd turn psycho on us. She was supposed to be a pro.

                                                          Far-L You admit that your gf was at fault and you still want to put the other dog down? That is fucked up. It would be another matter if the dog ran outside, off the owner's property, and attacked your dog - then you could blame the owner and the dog. However, by your own admission, the dog was brought into the home and improperly supervised... how is that the fault of the dog?

                                                          Left to their own devices, dogs would ordinarily kill runts in the the litter, not take them and make them into $2000 dollar vanities of status.

                                                          If you grew up on a farm then you know that.
                                                          Well she should've been a better judge of character and reacted faster. That doesn't mean that the owner of the attacking dog can walk away from this and she won't.

                                                          Your comment about vanities of status just displays your ignorance, as someone pointed out the money was paid cause it was a purebred. Has nothing to do with status, wtf kind of faggot do you take me for. Having a tiny pom as a status symbol

                                                          But I've been doing some digging. She's on welfare. She doesn't pay taxes from her side effect. She refuses to let me know what her insurance company is, probably because she has none.

                                                          So she's violating the law on numerous levels and when I'm done with her, she won't have a single animal left. She'll be fined and has to pay a ton of taxes that she cheated society for.

                                                          All she had to do was acknowledge that the dog was nuts, had to be put down and that she'd pay the property that was destroyed.

                                                          Yes we loved the dog to death, wanting the "material" losses covered does not make one less of a human being imo. But yea, in hindsight, I should've expressed myself clearer in my initial post. I was pretty pissed heh. Still am tbh, but from now on the police and lawyers will do the work.

                                                          Again thanks for all the sympathy. Sorry for the ranting.
                                                          But.... I pulled out...

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                                                          • L-Pink
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by candyflip

                                                            There's a big different between a human life and that of an animal. I didn't make that rule, society did.
                                                            Your statement needs the word "legally" installed as the first word.

                                                            As far as an animals meaning to someones life that is completely different.

                                                            Since money is a concern for the OP the dogs meaning to him is obvious.

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                                                            • Rochard
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                                                              #80
                                                              You intentionally brought your little dog into the house of a much larger dog, didn't have either dog on a leash, and.... Well, you get what you deserve.

                                                              We have a dog park a few blocks from us, and there have a large area for big dogs and a small area for smaller dogs. Some idiot brought their little dog into the big pen, and the dog got slaughtered and died a few hours later. I didn't feel sorry for him; That's what you get when you fail to protect your dog.

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                                                              • Holly Lez!
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                                                                #81
                                                                Sorry for your loss
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                                                                • thickcash_amo
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  That really sucks! I am very sorry you, your gf and your kids have to go through that

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                                                                  • JD
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    i feel for the dog man... that's really lame. Happened to my mother in law's Pom about 10 years ago. Somehow it got through the fence and a German Shepard decided to "play" with the new toy it saw running through its back yard.

                                                                    The dog that killed your GF's dog isn't to blame. Blame the owner, sue the shit out of him/her/them, and move on. There's no sense in punishing a creature that is nothing more that a sum of it's training and instincts.

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                                                                    • Tom_PM
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      The animal attacked and killed an invited guests dog who had implicit permission to be there and had every expectation that it was not a hostile environment for her or her animal. There's not much else to say I dont think. As far as I know, no judge is going to care what an animal considers to be it's own territory. Maybe the dog whisperer
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                                                                      • ottopottomouse
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Markul
                                                                        Well we had 2 poms now 1. The dog that killed it was a Danish Swedish Farm Dog. A dog that's usually known for being good around animals. How were we to know that it'd turn psycho on us. She was supposed to be a pro.
                                                                        Really?

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                                                                        That's just like a Jack Russell Terrier not exactly massive.

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                                                                          • candyflip
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                                                                            Wait a minute now, the killer dog was a Jack Russell Terrier?

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                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                              The animal attacked and killed an invited guests dog who had implicit permission to be there and had every expectation that it was not a hostile environment for her or her animal. There's not much else to say I dont think. As far as I know, no judge is going to care what an animal considers to be it's own territory. Maybe the dog whisperer
                                                                              Not so sure about that. Generally though i think the homeowner is responsible for guests so you may be right , but unless the homeowner gave some assurance his dog was safe it wouldn't have been an expectation.

                                                                              Common sense says you put a large predator with a small predator and you will have problems.

                                                                              It would be like putting a small gay man in a biker bar and have him grab someones bum.
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                                                                              • Grapesoda
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by chaze
                                                                                It's not the dogs fault it's the parents. They should pay for a new one a fine and have the dog removed from their home and not be able to buy a dog 5 years.
                                                                                it's the parents? I hate to be the one to break this to you but dogs have DOG parents.... yes that right, a species of animal will produce a 'like species' from breeding.... I kid you not...

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                                                                                • porno jew
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  if your little dog wore a helmet this wouldn't have happened.

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                                                                                  • CDSmith
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Pseudonymous
                                                                                    Are you kidding me? You think because a small dog gets in a fight with a big dog and a big dog wins and tears up the small dog, that the big dog is one, at fault, or two, means they look at small dogs like food? That is not the case. My dog is perfect around dogs, yet if a dog started acting aggressive towards him and started yapping in his face, he'd react, as any dog would do.

                                                                                    The only mistake here is the owner trusted somebody that didn't know a thing. From the story, you have NO idea whether their dog confonted the bigger dog. Maybe the other dog started acting aggressively first? Ever think of that?

                                                                                    As a couple people mentioned, it's simply how dogs are and the owners didn't pay attention closely enough, both of them.
                                                                                    The food analogy is largely a joke (and mostly used by big dog owners)

                                                                                    I've owned larger dogs all my life. None of them were agressive in that way towards other dogs, small or otherwise. The only thing I can attribute that fact to is that they were trained extensively (by me), and they were also allowed to be around other dogs at certain times (very supervised times), enough so that they behaved and didn't feel the need to react every time a yappy poodle or something got in their grill.

                                                                                    Sorry, but I stand by what I said earlier. Chalking something like this up to "oh well, dogs will be dogs" is just, well... stupid. And typical of a lot of apathetical dog owners, many of whom think they know what they're doing when it comes to training but really don't.

                                                                                    The big dog in this case chews a small dog in half because of a butt sniff? Please. Butt sniffing is a natural thing dogs do. That dogs reaction shows there's something wrong, in either it's training or lack therof, or in the home environment, or both. Either way the authorities do have the right to go in and take the dog and have it put down for aggression.

                                                                                    If it had chewed up an infant we wouldn't even be debating this.
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                                                                                    • L-Pink
                                                                                      working on my tan
                                                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                                                      • 39151

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                      if your little dog wore a helmet this wouldn't have happened.

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                                                                                      • RebelR
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                        • 1998

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        It just looks like a bad situation all around. As a dog owner you have to be vigilant when it comes to the safety and well being of your own animal. I never take for granted what someone else says that their dog's nature is. I don't bring my dog over to other peoples homes, and in a social environment, my dog would be on a leash the entire time so I can control what happens.

                                                                                        Unfortunately accidents happen. They are dogs after all, and aren't subject to our way of thinking. You cant punish the offending dog, he might not have liked his ass sniffed, and responded in a way that dogs do. If this had been a dog of the same relative size, this may not have seen the same outcome.

                                                                                        Markul, sorry for your loss, it sucks losing an animal companion.
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                                                                                        • CDSmith
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 51460

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                          You intentionally brought your little dog into the house of a much larger dog, didn't have either dog on a leash, and.... Well, you get what you deserve.

                                                                                          We have a dog park a few blocks from us, and there have a large area for big dogs and a small area for smaller dogs. Some idiot brought their little dog into the big pen, and the dog got slaughtered and died a few hours later. I didn't feel sorry for him; That's what you get when you fail to protect your dog.

                                                                                          Dogs that fit in a purse don't belong playing with big dogs.
                                                                                          I see what you're saying, and agree with much of it in fact. There is negligence on both sides here, and if I were the judge in such a case I would in all likelyhood award no damages to the OP.


                                                                                          However, to everyone saying that absolutely a small dog should never be around larger dogs I'll say this: When done properly there's no reason in the world why dogs of varying sizes can't get along.

                                                                                          My nephew and his wife have five dogs, two of which are tiny ones and the other three are quite large, all of varying breeds. They run around their property like a pack, they all get along just fine, and in fact one of the little ones seems to be the damn leader. Why do they get along? Because they were introduced carefully and properly to each other. The pack didn't just materialize, they were added to the home one by one. These dogs don't fight each other, they each seem to treat the other 4 with equal respect regardless of size. And they're not even the best trained dogs either, in fact in my view they could use a TON of training, but they have a good home life and are all treated well.

                                                                                          Now, if someone were to bring a foreign dog, small or large, into their home I'm quite certain my nephew and his wife would make sure that the person had full control of their pet BEFORE entering the premises. As did I during all my dog owner years.

                                                                                          You can only attest to your own dog's training and behavior, you can't know what other unkown dogs will do or how they'll react in certain situations etc.


                                                                                          I doubt the big dog in this case will be put down, but the OP does have a case. As for monetary damages, at most I'd say since there is negligence on both sides you might get a split, of say half the monetary loss. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that.


                                                                                          Next time OP (if there is a next time) I'd say keep any new dog you have on a leash. And when other foreign dogs are nearby maybe pick up and hold your small dog until you're sure about the safety of the situation.
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                                                                                          • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                                            • 28609

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                            The big dog in this case chews a small dog in half because of a butt sniff?

                                                                                            i don't think he chewed the dog in half. probaly bit its head and it was so small it crushed it..

                                                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                            Butt sniffing is a natural thing dogs do.
                                                                                            so is fighting for your position in a pack.. It is natural for a dog ESPECIALLY a female in heat to defend itself against basically being raped. They don't naturally do this by waiting until they are raped, they do this by giving clear signals that it is not appropriate by snapping at the dog who is investigating them.





                                                                                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                            If it had chewed up an infant we wouldn't even be debating this.
                                                                                            if aliens had come down and created sharks with laser beams on their heads we wouldn't be debating this either , and although it would make a great book , neither of them actually happened



                                                                                            but actually you do bring up a good point. If this had been a baby and he had let his baby crawl around on the floor and stick its finger up the bum of a large pitbull on the floor , would you say the babies parents did nothing wrong , and it is only the dogs owners fault ? Lets say the baby had scratched the dogs anal gland and the dog was injured not the baby, would you say its fair the dogs owner sues the babies parents for damages ? maybe put down the baby ?
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                                                                                            • CDSmith
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                              • 51460

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              i don't think he chewed the dog in half. probaly bit its head and it was so small it crushed it..
                                                                                              Figure of speech.



                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              so is fighting for your position in a pack.. It is natural for a dog ESPECIALLY a female in heat to defend itself against basically being raped. They don't naturally do this by waiting until they are raped, they do this by giving clear signals that it is not appropriate by snapping at the dog who is investigating them.
                                                                                              That's a whole other matter entirely, not sure why you think it needs to be added into this discussion. I doubt the teacup sized dog had rape on it's mind. Butt sniffing isn't common for dogs like fighting for position, it is their customary form of greeting, period. They all do it. Not all dogs however feel the need to fight, or chew on other smaller dogs etc.



                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              if aliens had come down and created sharks with laser beams on their heads we wouldn't be debating this either , and although it would make a great book , neither of them actually happened
                                                                                              Mock all you want. There are millions of documented cases of a child being that exact situation and getting chewed/mauled/killed etc. I know of no cases involving aliens. (unless alienQ had a dog attack him in his past)



                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              but actually you do bring up a good point.
                                                                                              Happens from time to time.

                                                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                              If this had been a baby and he had let his baby crawl around on the floor and stick its finger up the bum of a large pitbull on the floor , would you say the babies parents did nothing wrong , and it is only the dogs owners fault ? Lets say the baby had scratched the dogs anal gland and the dog was injured not the baby, would you say its fair the dogs owner sues the babies parents for damages ? maybe put down the baby ?
                                                                                              Well in truth, if you actually go back and read closely my full replies, I did point out the negligence on the part of the OP's girlfriend, so no, I'd have to say that no I wouldn't say the babies parents would have done nothing wrong. As I said, there is negligence on both sides here. I may have said it wrong in my earlier posts (but I don't think so), but just so everyone is clear I'll say it again for you: There is negligence on both sides here.

                                                                                              Btw there were in fact ufo (alien?) sightings over Winnipeg reported last week. I am no going to scour the newswires for anything relating to dog attacks involving alien laser sharks. This could take a while...
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                                                                                              • arock10
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                                                                                                • Jan 2006
                                                                                                • 6217

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Markul
                                                                                                Both dogs were not on leashes, they were in the attacking dogs home where a girl my gf was acquainted with were supposed to meet our dogs as she might want to dog-sit them when we leave for vacation later in the summer. Apparently our tiny dog sniffs the larger dogs butt and it bites it's head refusing to let go.
                                                                                                That sucks, but at the same time you both could've avoid the situation. The attacking dog was much larger and it was his house, thats not really surprising dog behavior
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                                                                                                • theking
                                                                                                  Nice Kitty
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 21053

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                  My "fucking dog" means more to me than anything or anyone. She definitely means more to me than most humans I have ever met.


                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                  I concur with that. There are very few human animals that I would place above the life of my dog. I am not much into being a humanist.
                                                                                                  When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                                                                                  • marketsmart
                                                                                                    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                                    • 20419

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Markul
                                                                                                    That's a lot of dogs.

                                                                                                    Well we had 2 poms now 1. The dog that killed it was a Danish Swedish Farm Dog. A dog that's usually known for being good around animals. How were we to know that it'd turn psycho on us. She was supposed to be a pro.



                                                                                                    Well she should've been a better judge of character and reacted faster. That doesn't mean that the owner of the attacking dog can walk away from this and she won't.

                                                                                                    Your comment about vanities of status just displays your ignorance, as someone pointed out the money was paid cause it was a purebred. Has nothing to do with status, wtf kind of faggot do you take me for. Having a tiny pom as a status symbol

                                                                                                    But I've been doing some digging. She's on welfare. She doesn't pay taxes from her side effect. She refuses to let me know what her insurance company is, probably because she has none.

                                                                                                    So she's violating the law on numerous levels and when I'm done with her, she won't have a single animal left. She'll be fined and has to pay a ton of taxes that she cheated society for.

                                                                                                    All she had to do was acknowledge that the dog was nuts, had to be put down and that she'd pay the property that was destroyed.

                                                                                                    Yes we loved the dog to death, wanting the "material" losses covered does not make one less of a human being imo. But yea, in hindsight, I should've expressed myself clearer in my initial post. I was pretty pissed heh. Still am tbh, but from now on the police and lawyers will do the work.

                                                                                                    Again thanks for all the sympathy. Sorry for the ranting.
                                                                                                    ruin a lady's life over this?

                                                                                                    you're a loser...

                                                                                                    you should put your gf down for being stupid.. that makes about as much sense as you wanting the lady to put her dog down over this..

                                                                                                    you still don't get it and you never will you thickheaded moron..

                                                                                                    you don't know enough about animals to own one.. sell any other pets you own until you educate yourself about dogs and their behavior..




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                                                                                                    • Elli
                                                                                                      Reach for those stars!
                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                      • 17991

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      It sounds to me like the larger animal was not properly socialized, or was out of sorts that day for whatever reason. The owner encouraged the interaction to get the job of a doggy daycare contract and somehow missed the signals her own dog was giving. I'd say she's very much in the wrong in this case. Her property damaged someone else's property (all loving feelings towards dogs aside.) She was negligent.

                                                                                                      And that is Judge Elli's decision.
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