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Now This is a Game Changer! Correct me if I'm wrong, but the multi-touch just refers to the ability to zoom by moving two fingers inwards and outwards to zoom, or 3 fingers for scrolling to the bottom of a page and moves like that correct? The others will just have to come up with a new and more innovative way to make their products unique and more user friendly.Rich"at"rebel-ads.com
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Weird I remember ATM Machines having touch screens way back in 2000.
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And there's also no way to patent "multi touch", that's not what Apple did. Apple got a patent on THEIR multi touch. If other companies are using something different than they're fine.
It's like the remote control sitting next to me. It's probably patented. But "remotes" aren't patented. The specific technology this specific remote might use could be though.
Or "jet engines". No one has a patent on "jet engines", however every jet engine out there is patented. If I want a jet engine I have two options - I can buy someone else's or make up my own.
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This sucks. If apple is able to squeeze competitors with royalty payments. Then the fee will be passed onto the customers.
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What the fuck are you talking about? We are talking about patents and how broad patents hurt innovation in the marketplace because of greed, not tube sites. So since we are grabbing at straws here about unrelated things, let me remind you of something related. Acacia. You must support their efforts then if we are going to use this kind of logic.
Geez now I remember why I stopped posting here a few years back. because of people who look way too deep into other people's posts and come back with unrelated matters to prove a pointless view on somethingComment
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now that I think of it, HP wasn't using multi-touch before apple did.. it was infrared sensors in each corner of the screen that sensed when something got "in it's way" and interpolated the position to the computer. however, microsoft has been. Remember microsoft surface? There's proof of prior art there... unless apple had prior art in their labs long before MS started working on the surface platform.Comment
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you guys make it sound like patenting stuff is something new... ALL major tech companies patent anytime some engineer dreams up some even remotely plausible technology....Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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Patent = a license to use the power of the state to exclude other people or companies from the market.
Patent = a license to use the power of the state to stop people from using a certain technology even if they developed it independently from you, even if they developed it 100 years before you did.Comment
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Apple is the worst, and going to take over technology if we let them
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Interesting how it's a narrow patent applying only to mobile devices.This patent, first submitted to the US Patent Office on December 19th 2007, gives Apple the ability to sue any of its competitors who sell mobile devices with multi-touch hardware.
Here's where it will get interesting in terms of it being able to be held up in a court of law.multi-touch refers to a touch sensing surface's (trackpad or touchscreen) ability to recognize the presence of two or more points of contact with the surface. This plural-point awareness is often used to implement advanced functionality such as pinch to zoom or activating predefined programs.
One of the early implementations of mutual capacitance touchscreen technology was developed at CERN in 1977 based on their capacitance touch screens developed in 1972 by Danish electronics engineer Bent Stumpe.Multi-touch technology began in 1982, when the University of Toronto's Input Research Group developed the first human-input multi-touch system.In 1983, Bell Labs at Murray Hill published a comprehensive discussion of touch-screen based interfaces. In 1984, Bell Labs engineered a touch screen that could change images with more than one hand. In 1985, the University of Toronto group including Bill Buxton developed a multi-touch tablet that used capacitance rather than bulky camera-based optical sensing systems.And here's why Apple thinks they own it...A breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch "Digital Desk", which supported multi-finger and pinching motions.
The company Fingerworks developed various multi-touch technologies between 1999 and 2005, including Touchstream keyboards and the iGesture Pad. Several studies of this technology were published in the early 2000s by Alan Hedge, professor of human factors and ergonomics at Cornell University. Apple acquired Fingerworks and its multi-touch technology in 2005. Mainstream exposure to multi-touch technology occurred in 2007 when the iPhone gained popularity, with Apple stating they 'invented multi touch' as part of the iPhone announcement, however both the function and the term predate the announcement or patent requests, except for such area of application as capacitive mobile screens, which did not exist before Fingerworks/Apple's technologyComment
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You can't compare them directly, because an idea for something may be independently conceived and developed by more than one person. The fuss seems to be about Apple patenting something that they don't have a right to patent (because of prior art), rather than them coming up with something genuinely unique.
If you want to further your tube stealing analogy, tube sites would need to display content that hasn't actually been shot yet.
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all that means is those companies prior to Fingerworks may use their technology in their applications without fear of reprisal, since they demonstrated prior use. If those companies didn't patent their multi-touch, Apple has free roam on everyone else (excl. cern, bell labs et al) to force licensing.
If Fingerworks held the patent and Apple bought Fingerworks, Apple "invented" multitouch and holds the patent. That is the one of the whole strategic reasons companies buy out others
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