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  • u-Bob
    there's no $$$ in porn
    • Jul 2005
    • 33063

    #51
    50 ratios

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    • Best-In-BC
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2002
      • 9511

      #52
      What type of trafifc source do you ahve to get those resaults
      Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More
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      • spazlabz
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 6548

        #53
        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
        What type of trafifc source do you ahve to get those resaults
        Most of the traffic is coming in from legal tubes and TGPs.

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        • Pornopat
          AdultTubeSubmits.com
          • Dec 2003
          • 10598

          #54
          Originally posted by biskoppen
          Good job PornoPat, we always enjoyed having you right below us on the webmaster rank ;)

          j/k
          Haha I think you and Gazool were the top and I was number 3. I was okay with that though!
          https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

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          • SleazyDream
            I'm here for SPORT
            • Jul 2001
            • 41470

            #55
            the content is INCREDIBLE
            This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

            Now read without the word dog.

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            • SenSEO
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2004
              • 346

              #56

              icq: 37-099-482

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              • biskoppen
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 5809

                #57
                Originally posted by Pornopat
                Haha I think you and Gazool were the top and I was number 3. I was okay with that though!
                We did pull 100-200 full month sales a day for Party Hardcore over quite some time
                Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

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                • Pornopat
                  AdultTubeSubmits.com
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 10598

                  #58
                  Originally posted by biskoppen
                  We did pull 100-200 full month sales a day for Party Hardcore over quite some time
                  Good times!
                  I had rebills growing up to about 100$ per sale back then.
                  https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

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                  • biskoppen
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5809

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Pornopat
                    Good times!
                    I had rebills growing up to about 100$ per sale back then.
                    I do not remember any site in history being able to pull that amount of rebills/full sales.
                    Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

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                    • spazlabz
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 6548

                      #60
                      Originally posted by biskoppen
                      I do not remember any site in history being able to pull that amount of rebills/full sales.
                      Hey there biskoppen, do you think you can send me an e mail or contact me on ICQ? I would like to talk with you for a few minutes when you have a chance

                      Thanks
                      e mail jim at payserve dot com
                      2 3 3 8 0 2 3 9 2

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                      • mopek1
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 3196

                        #61
                        What I'd really like to see is a trailer for PartyHardcore ... also the join page is a little busy and many surfers are used to things being 'simple'

                        Other than that the content is great ...

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                        • NyLoS
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 724

                          #62
                          Originally posted by SenSEO
                          Hit "Replay" :-D

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                          • spazlabz
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6548

                            #63
                            Originally posted by mopek1
                            What I'd really like to see is a trailer for PartyHardcore ... also the join page is a little busy and many surfers are used to things being 'simple'

                            Other than that the content is great ...
                            when you say a trailer for Party Hardcore, do you mean a video up on the tour? Or just a sample video of what the content is like?

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                            • mopek1
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 3196

                              #64
                              Video up on the tour ...

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                              • biskoppen
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 5809

                                #65
                                Originally posted by spazlabz
                                Hey there biskoppen, do you think you can send me an e mail or contact me on ICQ? I would like to talk with you for a few minutes when you have a chance

                                Thanks
                                e mail jim at payserve dot com
                                2 3 3 8 0 2 3 9 2
                                Hey. I already tried promoting the sites after you took them over, it does not work with my current traffic.
                                Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

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                                • spazlabz
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 6548

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by biskoppen
                                  Hey. I already tried promoting the sites after you took them over, it does not work with my current traffic.
                                  ok cool, I understand. I won't be pushy but I do have a couple of questions I would like to ask you about that for my own edification. I won't take up much of your time and I wont be a pest. I am just curious

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                                  • JenniDahling
                                    Market Penetration Specialist
                                    • Jul 2005
                                    • 5285

                                    #67
                                    Nice to see positive words about a sponsor from a real webmaster. Not something you see a lot around here these days. Well done Dennis! Hi Patrick!

                                    cLick my kitty, you know you want to
                                    jenni {at} prkitty.com
                                    Meet me at The Island Gathering

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                                    • Horny Joe
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 2661

                                      #68
                                      I do not have much luck with Payserve, but will try harder. Love the stats you guys are showing
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                                      • spazlabz
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 6548

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Horny Joe
                                        I do not have much luck with Payserve, but will try harder. Love the stats you guys are showing
                                        Hey Horny Joe, I hate to be so cliche but if you have some time maybe you can hit me up and we can try and figure out what is going on and see if we can get you numbers up. Me and the entire Payserve team would be happy to help.

                                        For your reference here is a direct link to our contacts page: Payserve's Contacts Page

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                                        • spazlabz
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 6548

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by biskoppen
                                          Hey. I already tried promoting the sites after you took them over, it does not work with my current traffic.
                                          Hey Biskoppen, was great chatting with you, I look forward to our next conversation

                                          Originally posted by Horny Joe
                                          I do not have much luck with Payserve, but will try harder. Love the stats you guys are showing
                                          It was really nice meeting you Joe (magic alphabet and all!) let's talk again soon

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                                          • Buncha
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 214

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by mopek1
                                            What I'd really like to see is a trailer for PartyHardcore ... also the join page is a little busy and many surfers are used to things being 'simple'
                                            I agree that the Join Page seems confusing. I really wish there was a traditional-style tour for these sites. Never had good results with the "Powered By Tainster"-style tour pages. Seems like they're trying to sell too many products at the same time. The surfer likes Party Hardcore and wants more. But instead they're getting distracted by all the other stuff. Keep it simple.

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                                            • spazlabz
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 6548

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Buncha
                                              Originally posted by mopek1
                                              What I'd really like to see is a trailer for PartyHardcore ... also the join page is a little busy and many surfers are used to things being 'simple'

                                              Other than that the content is great ...
                                              I agree that the Join Page seems confusing. I really wish there was a traditional-style tour for these sites. Never had good results with the "Powered By Tainster"-style tour pages. Seems like they're trying to sell too many products at the same time. The surfer likes Party Hardcore and wants more. But instead they're getting distracted by all the other stuff. Keep it simple.
                                              We do take these suggestions quite seriously and have the traditional style tours in queue but with the success of the tours the way they currently are coupled with a huge load of projects in the works they may take some time. If either of you have any other suggestions I know our entire team would like to hear them. You can contact me or Ralph or even Dennis (our CEO). Just use our handy Contacts Page, we will all be happy to get the feedback.

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                                              • Jel
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2007
                                                • 6904

                                                #73
                                                Thanks for the thread Pat, reminded me to take another look at payserve. As you know I was there back in the days of maxx, and even the one before that - fucked if I can remember what it was called now off the top of my head - communicon?

                                                Anyway as others have said, partyhardcore went to shit with the tainster model, and truth be told just prior to that was worsening conversion-wise with cfnm traffic, which was the majority of my traffic back then, as they went more towards the hardcore aspect on the tour (rather than keep a separate cfnm-oriented tour, which I couldn't really understand) for obvious reasons.

                                                Which brings me to this point in time, and I'm another adding that looking at the tour for party hardcore, I just see zero reason for the 2nd page to be there, after a surfer clicks the 'watch now' on each/any tour episode. Eg this page http://www.partyhardcore.com/movie/details/7657 - I see a reason to have it *somewhere* on the tour (like it currently is when clicking the 'featured scenes' thumbs at the bottom of the page), just not between the front page and the join form. Too many clicks spoil the broth, and all that.

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                                                • NetHorse
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                  • 3526

                                                  #74
                                                  Nice #s, wish I had that type of traffic so I could give it a run.
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                                                  • spazlabz
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 6548

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Jel
                                                    Thanks for the thread Pat, reminded me to take another look at payserve. As you know I was there back in the days of maxx, and even the one before that - fucked if I can remember what it was called now off the top of my head - communicon?

                                                    Anyway as others have said, partyhardcore went to shit with the tainster model, and truth be told just prior to that was worsening conversion-wise with cfnm traffic, which was the majority of my traffic back then, as they went more towards the hardcore aspect on the tour (rather than keep a separate cfnm-oriented tour, which I couldn't really understand) for obvious reasons.

                                                    Which brings me to this point in time, and I'm another adding that looking at the tour for party hardcore, I just see zero reason for the 2nd page to be there, after a surfer clicks the 'watch now' on each/any tour episode. Eg this page http://www.partyhardcore.com/movie/details/7657 - I see a reason to have it *somewhere* on the tour (like it currently is when clicking the 'featured scenes' thumbs at the bottom of the page), just not between the front page and the join form. Too many clicks spoil the broth, and all that.
                                                    Hey Jel, I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this one even though it was addressed to PornoPat.

                                                    I can tell you that Dennis, Ralph and myself are reading and paying attention to every post in this thread and I am positive your comment will spark discussion. If you like you can send traffic directly to the join page. If that helps just shoot me an e mail (jim @ payserve dot com) or an ICQ message (ICQ# in sig) and I can go over it with you, it is pretty simple to do.

                                                    If you need anything else just let me know and I will do my best to get it to you if possible

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                                                    • GAMEFINEST
                                                      Make STACK$
                                                      • Nov 2006
                                                      • 14478

                                                      #76
                                                      Looks gud great ratios
                                                      Compound interest.

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                                                      • CaptainHowdy
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 94735

                                                        #77
                                                        I love you, Payserve ...

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                                                        • spazlabz
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 6548

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                          I love you, Payserve ...
                                                          and we love you too CaptainHowdy

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                                                          • Luscious Media
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 785

                                                            #79
                                                            Nice numbers Pat. No doubt you're happy to have that revenue stream back.

                                                            I deleted all of the hosted galleries from my database and removed most of the links on my sites when OrgyCash switched over to that Tainster bullshit. I've since added what's available for FHG's at Payserve and put links back on most of my sites. My ratios are nowhere near where the were but maybe with a few tweaks I can fix that.

                                                            A few suggestions for Partyhardcore.

                                                            1. Create a CFNM style tour for Partyhardcore and maybe even FullyClothedSex too. No female nudity. Like Jel said we were converting the sites with CFNM traffic.

                                                            2. More FHG's. Yep, still use em and they still work.

                                                            3. Dynamic ads. Tube style ads. CFNM ads.

                                                            4. More hosted FLV files and again no female nudity.

                                                            In a nutshell, more of the CFNM that made the site what it was in the begining.

                                                            Glad to see the sites are now in good hands.
                                                            Luscious Media
                                                            ICQ: 293-550-859
                                                            CFNM Cash

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                                                            • spazlabz
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 6548

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Luscious Media
                                                              Nice numbers Pat. No doubt you're happy to have that revenue stream back.

                                                              I deleted all of the hosted galleries from my database and removed most of the links on my sites when OrgyCash switched over to that Tainster bullshit. I've since added what's available for FHG's at Payserve and put links back on most of my sites. My ratios are nowhere near where the were but maybe with a few tweaks I can fix that.

                                                              A few suggestions for Partyhardcore.

                                                              1. Create a CFNM style tour for Partyhardcore and maybe even FullyClothedSex too. No female nudity. Like Jel said we were converting the sites with CFNM traffic.

                                                              2. More FHG's. Yep, still use em and they still work.

                                                              3. Dynamic ads. Tube style ads. CFNM ads.

                                                              4. More hosted FLV files and again no female nudity.

                                                              In a nutshell, more of the CFNM that made the site what it was in the begining.

                                                              Glad to see the sites are now in good hands.
                                                              wow thank you Luscious Media, very good suggestions all.

                                                              About the FHGs, I am going to be working on getting the old ones from OrgyCash into our system so that there will be a lot of them for you to use. I know they are not fresh or anything like that I just consider them to be a good base and we will continue to add new fresh ones each week as well. I just have not had the chance to get them downloaded and ready. I will start on them next week

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                                                              • maxjohan
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 7219

                                                                #81
                                                                Have you guys tried green slime or yellow slime. Wordtracker:

                                                                slime porn: 15 searches/day
                                                                horror porn green slime junk yard: 7 seaches/day
                                                                green slime porn: 3 searches/day

                                                                Green slime could convert even better, because there's already a market for it. But of course the white stuff is like a gigantic cumshot, maybe two sites. One with green and then the regular. Or, hear with your members, they know best what they prefer.

                                                                Just some friendly advice.
                                                                I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                • spazlabz
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 6548

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                                  Have you guys tried green slime or yellow slime. Wordtracker:

                                                                  slime porn: 15 searches/day
                                                                  horror porn green slime junk yard: 7 seaches/day
                                                                  green slime porn: 3 searches/day

                                                                  Green slime could convert even better, because there's already a market for it. But of course the white stuff is like a gigantic cumshot, maybe two sites. One with green and then the regular. Or, hear with your members, they know best what they prefer.

                                                                  Just some friendly advice.
                                                                  Green slime? Oh hell yeah we have green white and pink slime all over the place just not inside slimewave. AllWAM has quite a few videos with girls getting coated in various colored slime (among other things) and it is selling exceptionally well right now too

                                                                  check it out AllWam -- http://www.allwam.net/

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                                                                  • maxjohan
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 7219

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by spazlabz

                                                                    check it out AllWam -- http://www.allwam.net/
                                                                    Nice looking site, that slime shit is on fire, I bet.
                                                                    I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                    • spazlabz
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 6548

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                                      Nice looking site, that slime shit is on fire, I bet.
                                                                      it really is

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                                                                      • TTIIMM
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Dec 2009
                                                                        • 2

                                                                        #85
                                                                        awesome ratios!

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                                                                        • Profits of Doom
                                                                          Monster Rain
                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                          • 4978

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by spazlabz
                                                                          Green slime? Oh hell yeah we have green white and pink slime all over the place just not inside slimewave. AllWAM has quite a few videos with girls getting coated in various colored slime (among other things) and it is selling exceptionally well right now too

                                                                          check it out AllWam -- http://www.allwam.net/
                                                                          Do the girls have to say "I don't know" before a bucket of green slime is dumped on them? Sorry, old "You Can't Do That on Television" joke.

                                                                          On a more serious note, I had a Party Hardcore blog a long while back that I sold when Orgy Cash made all the changes, but that was one of the few porn sites where I actually loved the content. Are you still shooting new content with the same stripper guys, same locations, etc?
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                                                                          • DennisK
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 1363

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                                                                            Do the girls have to say "I don't know" before a bucket of green slime is dumped on them? Sorry, old "You Can't Do That on Television" joke.

                                                                            On a more serious note, I had a Party Hardcore blog a long while back that I sold when Orgy Cash made all the changes, but that was one of the few porn sites where I actually loved the content. Are you still shooting new content with the same stripper guys, same locations, etc?
                                                                            We are updating Party Hardcore every week with fresh new content, in the style which made the site famous


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                                                                            • Jel
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                              • 6904

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Auto-starting (with volume) video trailer pages like bbros/program3 have would be a very sweet tool indeed, unless you already have those for partyhardcore and I've overlooked them.

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                                                                              • Adam_M
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Mar 2006
                                                                                • 3800

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Great looking stuff guys!
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                                                                                • Marie
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 3024

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Wow I am loving this thread - and your ratios Pat!
                                                                                  I am glad to see that you are back to promoting these sites now that they are with "us" and that it is working out so well. Dennis, Ralph and the rest of the Payserve team know what they are doing indeed, these sites are doing great since they are managing them!
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                                                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 32449

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    I think you are 80% of slime waves traffic.

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                                                                                    • Pornopat
                                                                                      AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                      • 10598

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Marie
                                                                                      Wow I am loving this thread - and your ratios Pat!
                                                                                      I am glad to see that you are back to promoting these sites now that they are with "us" and that it is working out so well. Dennis, Ralph and the rest of the Payserve team know what they are doing indeed, these sites are doing great since they are managing them!
                                                                                      https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

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                                                                                      • ideaworx
                                                                                        GOW Technician
                                                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                                                        • 1132

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Not surprised, Payserve always keeps it top notch!
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                                                                                        • Lewis_T
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2007
                                                                                          • 361

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          There is always great things to say about payserve, but the most important is it converts, great support and awesome sites! Iv worked with them with many clients of mine and always done very well. I look forward to more successful business adventures now and in the future! Kudos to you Payserve!
                                                                                          Lewis

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                                                                                          • DennisK
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 1363

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Lewis_T
                                                                                            There is always great things to say about payserve, but the most important is it converts, great support and awesome sites! Iv worked with them with many clients of mine and always done very well. I look forward to more successful business adventures now and in the future! Kudos to you Payserve!
                                                                                            Thanks for all the kind words! I really appreciate that


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                                                                                            • Jeppe
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 951

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Congrats to the OP

                                                                                              Originally posted by spazlabz

                                                                                              That's something else... I think we should review those too - I'll get right on it.
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                                                                                              • DennisK
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 1363

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Jeppe
                                                                                                Congrats to the OP



                                                                                                That's something else... I think we should review those too - I'll get right on it.
                                                                                                Hit me up if you need something to get the reviews done


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                                                                                                • cemtex
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2006
                                                                                                  • 289

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Payserve Rocks!

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                                                                                                  • EthnicLover
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                                                    • 1584

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    99 ratio lovers.


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                                                                                                    • MrMaxwell
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                      • 10057

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Who do I talk to about changing my hosting over? I dropped the dom I was using.. Been so long since I e-mailed anyone, it use to be MEFO.. is it you now SPAZ? What's your e-mail? Thanks )

                                                                                                      EVERYONE at payserve is ALWAYS willing to help... just don't like bothering the wrong person )

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