why would anyone out what's working in this day and age?

so others can copy them and steal their techniques and niches? brag about sales online for the irs and ex-wives can see?

makes no sense in 2011. not everyone is an egomaniac.

And with no disrespect to Top Bucks...I personally haven't had big sales with them since maybe 2003.

I have tried their mobile stuff the past week with my new mobilepornhunter.com site. And that's at 0:964 so far. :Oh crap

We also don't know exactly how those dollar joins came in. For all I know they could have been x-sales or some other kind of email spam sales. I just don't know.
Or maybe somebody just went into complete overdrive with everything they have and pushed nothing but $1 Top Bucks across whatever network they have?

What's to "out"? If we promote the same site. But mystery dude claims to be able to get people to join that site in droves while you send people and they don't join in droves...hey, the tour is the same.

I'm getting plenty of people to paysite tours. They just DON'T buy. Instead, they check out the tour, make a mental note of the girls names, and then head over to porn bb dot org or something similar and begin searching for that scene for free.

That's where this whole discussion take an abrupt 180 to me.

There is no magical land where people don't know about all the FREE shit. There is no magical place where the economy is not in the shitter. And there is no magical fairy dust that some unidentified billionaire whale affiliate supposedly sprinkles on people to make the same exact tour that you send people to suddenly convert for them and not you.

Sorry pal, you are totally clueless as to what a revshare program is, you're thinking about pay per signup.

I'm not feeling quite as bleak about it as you are, but we are definitely experiencing the same trends my man. I'm branching out into ebook publishing and teaching myself HTML5 so I can do stuff that works better on mobile devices -- I'd be doing apps if the leading platform wasn't a walled garden owned by an anti-porn zealot (fortunately, he'll be dead soon, and good riddance to him!) My blogging network still brings a trickle of affiliate cash, but the bulk of my bills get paid for by brokered advertising (mostly JuicyAds) and at least half of that advertising is short-term and gives the impression of being desperation efforts by people still trying to find a way to sell the unsellable.)

My point in posting about the "pay on rebills for a year, then stop" model was not to claim that programs shouldn't use it, if that's what makes business sense to them. My point was to ridicule the attempt to label that model "revshare". At this point revshare has both a universally-understood meaning and a solid complex of business reasons why it works for publisher and affiliate alike; this model is not faithful to that meaning and does not support those reasons. It's every bit as "fake-revshare" as the fake PPS programs that convert your account (retroactively) to revshare if they decide they aren't getting enough cross-sales and upsells from your signups to justify the PPS numbers they pretended to agree to pay you (AFF, looking at you...).

I know the difference between revshare and PPS.

The original topic was about a program putting a cap or limit or expiration date on an affiliate's rebill which in this case was one year.
The industry standard is the affiliate gets the revshare from the rebill for the life of that rebill.

There is no such thing as an industry standard. This is a business and a company can set whatever damn rules it wants to. A company could start a paysite tomorrow and pay a bag of oranges for each sale if they wanted to.

You people need to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for yourselves instead of just bitching about what everyone else is doing. If you're not getting rebills for as long as you want, you have no one else to blame but yourself. PERIOD.

By " industry standard " I meant what the majority of companies do and what is generally acceptable. I DID NOT mean it to be its the law and EVERYONE must do it.

But if they call it revshare, it's a lie.

that made me laugh