Beating a kid and spanking a kid are 2 separate issues IMO

+1 vote for spanking the kids!

I see someone hitting their kid in public, I stop it, it's happened

I've never had to spank my kid, but I've known kids that needed it.
Mostly because of bad parenting.

according to Children Protective Services in California, Open hand spanking is OK

It sounds like you were abused.

its a response to physical intimidation. its hard to say how much the child "gains" from it. maybe the child is wondering if how he/she is being treated is right or wrong.

?? It's a spanking. Girl, if you keep that up you are gonna get a spanking.

That is not traumatic... taking away there DSI is traumatic, taking away TV and making them go outside is traumatic, a spanking they just don't want because it hurts there little misbehaved behind.

Yes because that's what I want to do ... scare my child into doing what I tell them rather then talk to them and teach from example.

I have grown up with a parent that used a belt and a school that was aloud to paddle. And you know, if I did something to warrant the belt, I deserved it. Twice in my life. The paddle, whole other story. I did not respect the principal at an elementary school and feel the bitch may have gotten off on the task. Thing is I have three boys and have never had to punish them for their actions, they are so much more behaved then I ever was. I popped their ass when they would get into mischief when they were young, but never beat them. They seemed more upset at not being praised that the action was not the spank but the, oh shit, I let him down look. Kids love to do good, we are here to help them to do there best.
No one can tell another parent how to raise their kids, to many variables....

My father used to slap my brothers and sisters and I often for no reason. We were good kids too. He was a fucking asshole.
When we grew to be adults and he was an old man none of us ever called or visited him. He died lonely and all of us couldn't be happier for it. Only 2 showed up at his funeral out of obligation, the rest of us couldn't be bothered including me.

When you abuse your kids they will remember it the rest of their lives...

that is what you respond to because you exist at that level. you are like a fish trying to comprehend what land is like. you can't, so for you, it cannot exist.

sounds like he went to a gfy parent's course.

sorry to hear.

I got my ass beat with a black belt from my step father as a kid because I was always getting in trouble, hard to find parking when he died, what with the 21 gun salute from the VFW and the marines showing up and people I hadn't seen in 20 years.

I miss him

According to you, EVERYTHING can be achieved through cold logical reasoning. For higher human beings like yourself that is, not for lower fish like me.

Have you ever convinced through logical reasoning someone to fall in love with you ? Have you ever prevented an ex from leaving you by logically explaining to her why she shouldn't ?

Well how about this for a logical argument: you failed at parenting because now your child is a trained killer by choice.

You have allowed your child not only to become someone that is trained to kill others, you have put your child in a very dangerous situation with the wars and what not.

Aimlessly fighting for the US military does not make someone a patriot and it does not mean you're defending your country. Still time to do the right thing, get your children to safety.

That's your opinion. And it makes zero sense.

What makes zero sense? That the parents of murderers are bad parents? That defending your country by invading countries that aren't attacking you isn't defending your country? Please enlighten me.

Your whole trolling. It's pathetic.

the government actually own your kids.

If my trolling is pathetic how pathetic are you for caring? If you don't have nothing to add to the argument kindly fuck off. Thanks!

Pathfinder?

Generally I don't even pay attention to you. However your generalizations are nothing but troll attempts at Vendzilla. It brings nothing to the discussion except your bias towards another poster. How sad is your life that you sit behind a computer monitor to spew hate on a message board to feel complete inside?

The Government is anti-Christian. The Lord will bring about its end, this November, I hear.

Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."

Prov 19:18: "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying."

Prov 22:15: "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Prov 23:13: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."

Prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)."

Prov 29:15: "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."

Sit behind a computer monitor to spew hate? What I was talking about was relevant to the topic being discussed. But here you are, spewing hate, sitting behind a computer monitor, on a message board. And what you're spewing isn't even related to the topic at hand. Reality check Anthony, you are the troll. I am merely participating in the discussion.

So go ahead and answer your own question, how does it feel to 'sit behind a computer monitor to spew hate on a message board to feel complete inside'?

Let them eat heavy doses of sugar and give them LARGE doses of church. Spank away. :thumbsup

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Have you taken your medication today? You seem extra disconnected today than usual.

Spank your monkey not the children

My parents were extremely strict and loved to dish out the discipline. Maybe it helped me turn out well or not, it's hard to say. It did teach me to lie better and hide things that I knew would set them off. To this day though I've always hated my father.

This thread made me go downstairs this morning and hug the shit out of my kids.

I spanked my dughter in jest and made her laugh. Thanks guys!

Because it hurts and causes long term brain damage. You should know this, the kids act how they are brought up. Parents shouldn't beat their own creation. They tend to take after their parents anyway.

You can't spank your child because people who do not have children - or obnoxious idiots who lost their rights to see their kids in their failed divorce proceedings - all got together and vented their frustrations on real parents who want to raise their kids properly.

A little whack on the ass can foster a lifetime worth of memories.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Would you rather they have the brain of a monkey or to be able to take care of themselves.

It is much more then people/organizations. It is the general mentality of society. What used to be private in the home is now open for all to see and evaluate and judge.

My daughter who is in 4th grade writes down in a school journal what she did over each weekend. It is the entire school that writes in these journals. The teacher reads and decides what should go to the counselor and what deserves a smiley.

All of my neighbors who have kids my daughters age are at the bus stop with them bright and early each and every morning. Why?? Because of the boogie man? Bc it is to protect? Wtf! None of this shit I grew up with and it saddens me the general mentality of society acts like this.

To reiterate, most parents don't want to spank, but sometimes that just well be the thing to do at that time.

But, society wants to intervene and provide obscure, irrelevant 2 cents... All the time.

I started this thread because the schools, the neighbors, the police, the courts... They all have their eye on you and they want to raise your children the way they see fit. So, beware of the people who want to raise your children.

... Obviously if you have children

What you wrote! :)

Yeah, you used to be able to get away with beating your children because everyone else did............................................... .................................................

? From your responses in this thread you have way more problems then most.

I didn't say one thing about beating a child... 2 cents. If you got abused as a child and it made you a closet homosexual with suicidal tendencies and makes you act like a women on an adult forum...

That does not have significance on this topic

sad thread. sums up the sad state of parenting and thus the world right here.

i bet the majority of people who are 'subs' in the bdsm lifestyle were spanked as kids.

I think it's fine, as long as you're a loving parent. For example, take a 3 year old showing a screwdriver in a light socket. Do you really think he's going to give a shit if you sit him down, try to explain things to him, and maybe give him a time out? Probably not. A quick, swift slap in the ass will make him remember not to do that much more effectively though.

Oh, and for a laugh...

Since you're on the subject...

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...ate&id=8195860

Mom gets probation for spanking own child...

CORPUS CHRISTI, TX (KTRK) -- A Corpus Christi woman was sentenced to five years probation for spanking her own child.

Rosalina Gonzalez pleaded guilty to a felony charge of injury to a child charge after reaching an agreement with prosecutors, according to KZTV in Corpus Christi.

Gonzalez was arrested in December after her mother noticed some red marks on her granddaughter's butt and took her to the hospital to get checked out.

Although prosecutors say Gonzalez didn't use a belt and didn't bruise the child, a judge made it clear that spanking isn't allowed.

"You don't spank children today. In the old days, maybe we got spanked, but there was a different quarrel. You don't spank children. You understand?" Judge Jose Longoria said.

"Yes, sir," Gonzalez said.

On top of her probation, Gonzalez also will have to take parenting classes, follow CPS guidelines and make a $50 payment to the Children's Advocacy Center.