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IllTestYourGirls 06-14-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216283)
He doesn't need one, we aren't at war with Libya... is that really that hard to understand?

Your delusion runs wild.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216272)
Wars are not profitable and why were in debt in the first place. Is Germany, Japan, or Vietnam, Iraq, Pakistan, paying any taxes into our system? No

Second, these are federal jobs NOT military jobs. Have you ever met a soldier or privatemilitary contractor who says they work directly for the Federal Government? In short, that's an allotted military budget, not counted in the Federal job increase statistics.



They get....wait for it... Federal tax dollars to support programs like homeland security etc.



You've said some crazy shit before but this is one of your best. Of course the US is setup and ran like a business otherwise, why the fuck would corporations and our populace pay State and federal income tax? Why would there be a Federal reserve? Why would we print dollars or issue TB with an interest rates? Why do you think we have embassies in other countries? - for lost tourists?

The war machine makes profit for American corporations, not the Gov.

Military growth, I didn't say Military JOBS... our war machine is like 20x bigger than it was 8 years ago, the fed job growth is related to Military, they are private citizens that get hired.

Great example, Homeland security has grown like mad.


What corporations charges it's employees income tax and collects it and if they don't pay it, goes and collects it and then taxes them on the money they spend, move, etc? What corp has a banking system for employees to loan money on interest that can be loaned out to others? What corp prints money?

Oh how about this one... have you ever seen a corp never do it's books? Hello fed reserve.

You were saying?

TheDoc 06-14-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18216287)
Your delusion runs wild.

No you're uneducated on the subject and refuse to educate yourself on it... and chances are you've never been in the military and used it yourself without a president saying shit to congress. So you have zero experience or understanding, other than what the media has told you.

onwebcam 06-14-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216274)
I've been using PS from Beta2, some 15 years now... and I can tell you it's fully real.

See how easy that was?

Got you by a few years. We didn't have the luxury of PS assistance.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 18216300)
Got you by a few years. We didn't have the luxury of PS assistance.

I've been creating graphics on computers for about 27 years.

Edit: I was a year off

onwebcam 06-14-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216307)
I've been creating graphics on computers for about 27 years.

Edit: I was a year off

Well you do have me there.

Dead 06-14-2011 05:05 PM

Truth be told, the state of the nation is in a stare of reprehensible gaze. The problem will not be solved with a party nor a power put into place. There is, however, a solution to this conflict. I for one, would love to see an administration realize that we are not all clung to the governments tit, and do not need their assistance at every turn. Some of us have made their own way and do quite well, thank you. What we need is assertiveness and confidence from our commander and chief to run the country with out an agenda.....yea, I know I am asking for a miracle, but one can hope. Blackmonster, keep your change, you will need it!

IllTestYourGirls 06-14-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216294)
No you're uneducated on the subject and refuse to educate yourself on it... and chances are you've never been in the military and used it yourself without a president saying shit to congress. So you have zero experience or understanding, other than what the media has told you.

I have a degree in political science (international relations). Your understand comes from a long line of delusion. Just because you were lied to in the military does not make it right.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216313)
Stop weaseling and learn something.



The United States as country, has the largest economy in the world and you think the President of the United States does not need to have any type business background?.......... Honestly?

The economy is not a business, it's the result of business by OUR corporations, which is not ran by the President. And plenty of Presidents have had no business background and have done perfectly fine running this ship.

A strong management skill would do you better, something Obama has.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18216317)
I have a degree in political science (international relations). Your understand comes from a long line of delusion. Just because you were lied to in the military does not make it right.

The problem with your degree is Daddy Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama have all proven it wrong.

IllTestYourGirls 06-14-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216334)
The problem with your degree is Daddy Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama have all proven it wrong.

So murder is legal? Because some people get away with it? Speeding is legal because people get away with it? Rape is legal because some people get away with it? Try your logic again. :thumbsup

TheDoc 06-14-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216313)
Stop weaseling and learn something.

You posted stats and I posted part of the reason why.... if you can't accept it, then what can I say?

TheDoc 06-14-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18216337)
So murder is legal? Because a lot of people get away with it? Speeding is legal because people get away with it? Rape is legal because people get away with it? Try your logic again. :thumbsup

Nobody is getting away with this... congress already approved it. You keep ignoring that simple fact, and if any of them actually did abuse the powers they had, they would have been booted - but the fact is, they didn't abuse anything.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216339)
Seriously?... have you ever seen or read the the text on dollar? .. They are green pieces of paper or metal coins with pictures of presidents on them.. :2 cents:

Oh so the Queen of England controls the Canadian economy because she's on the dollar?

Yeah, it's called respect... It's not because they actually run the economy or our business industries.

IllTestYourGirls 06-14-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216340)
Nobody is getting away with this... congress already approved it. You keep ignoring that simple fact, and if any of them actually did abuse the powers they had, they would have been booted - but the fact is, they didn't abuse anything.

You mean like this? http://www.businessinsider.com/rober...funding-2011-6

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The House of Representatives took a majority vote against any further funding for U.S. involvement in Libya.

According to AFP, the numbers were 163 to 248 against.

The decision comes after President Obama both began the Libya campaign in March and prolonged it without congressional approval.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/rober...#ixzz1PIfN3tcw
Congress approved nothing. You keep ignoring that fact. Approving to be in the UN and NATO does not give the president the right to break the constitution.

JFK 06-14-2011 05:30 PM

100 concession speeches

buzzard 06-14-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216098)
I saw his live birth cert shortly after he became president...

:1orglaugh duped :1orglaugh
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BFT3K 06-14-2011 05:43 PM

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directfiesta 06-14-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216371)
Anyway, if were going to talk about random shit. I need some help from some Canadians because I found a bunch of old Canadian dollars - 1954 are they worth anything more then face value?

ebay ... you will then see ...


Note: they are silver , so are even worth more just to melt ...



As for Obama : big deception .... and that means that the USA will continue to fall of the ladder ...

BFT3K 06-14-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 18216414)

fall of the ladder ...

http://www.epicfail.net/files/images/ladder-fall.jpg

TheDoc 06-14-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216343)
Who the fuck is talking about Canada..

Sorry, I wasn't aware that you're not able understand an example.... let me explain it better. I'm showing how ridiculous it sounds to relate a person of powers face being on money compared to them running an economy... she doesn't run them, but she's on the money due to respect.

Exactly the same reasons as our Presidents are on our money... respect, and not because they run/manage or help or do anything with the economy or anything ever related to it.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18216346)

Okay? "We ie America" isn't funding it now then or ever, the U.N. was and Congress pre-approved 'action' with the U.N. long ago... so he doesn't need more approval, which is actually for, if WE as in "America" went to war. Which is not what is happening.


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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18216346)
Congress approved nothing. You keep ignoring that fact. Approving to be in the UN and NATO does not give the president the right to break the constitution.

They approved the Presidents to take action with the U.N. involved already... so they / Obama isn't breaking the or overstepping the constitution... and yes, congress DID approve it.

TheDoc 06-14-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216449)
Get the fuck out of here with that shit Einstein? Serious you think? .. is it possible for you to stay on topic?

Is this you staying on topic?

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216339)
Seriously?... have you ever seen or read the the text on a dollar? .. They are green pieces of paper or metal coins with pictures of Presidents on them.. :2 cents:

Oh, my bad.... should you stay on topic or me, I'm kinda confused here, my ADD got me.

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216339)
You think a President of the United States does not need any business knowledge to run the worlds largest economy properly -your words.

And I think you're are incredibly naive on your opinion. - That's it. Now you're allowed to float of in any direction your ADD takes you. - Bye

I'm sure he has business knowledge, he is a lawyer, they do take business classes. However, no, I don't think they need it to qualify to be President.

Opinion? It's not an opinion, plenty of Presidents haven't been business men, not all took business in school, and they've done fine.

It's funny to watch you think our Country runs like a business though....

TheDoc 06-14-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216458)
..... at this point I couldn't careless what you think, honestly.

Coming from a guy named Jesus J Christ, I couldn't agree more....

TheDoc 06-14-2011 06:55 PM

United Nations Participation Act, Title 22, Section 7, § 287d. Use of armed forces; limitations defines the legal use for the U.N. and related. U.N. Charter Article 41-43. Which allows for Article 42 forces to NOT REQUIRE Congressional approval.

Exactly what Libya falls under...

TheDoc 06-14-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216449)
You think a President of the United States does not need any business knowledge to run the worlds largest economy properly

Did you know... wait, of course you didn't.... anyway, 25 Presidents have been Lawyers, including Obama - even though not all finished law school. 1 was a Doctor. And 9 Presidents never went to college. The rest range from spoonfed rich to dirt poor, some worked for other people and others ran a business, and some only did social work.

Thinking you must have a business background to be the leader of this country is completely foolish and ignores our own history that proves your mind set is flawed.

candyflip 06-14-2011 07:37 PM

GFY + Politics = RULE

theking 06-14-2011 07:46 PM

The ignorant and plumb dumb never cease to amaze or amuse me and GFY must be the largest gathering in the world of the ignorant and dumb.

BFT3K 06-14-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18216547)
The ignorant and plumb dumb never cease to amaze or amuse me and GFY must be the largest gathering in the world of the ignorant and dumb.



https://youtube.com/watch?v=v17lMr0j2D8

Vendzilla 06-14-2011 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216481)
Thinking you must have a business background to be the leader of this country is completely foolish and ignores our own history that proves your mind set is flawed.

So according to you the president should know nothing about business, that's why you back Obama?

Thanx for clearing that up!!

Joshua G 06-14-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18216642)
So according to you the president should know nothing about business, that's why you back Obama?

Thanx for clearing that up!!

normally i would agree. But US business leaders are parasites, wrecking the middle class with declining wages while they pick up lotto winnings for salaries. Odds are, a president with business credentials will make matters worse.

TheDoc 06-15-2011 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18216642)
So according to you the president should know nothing about business, that's why you back Obama?

Thanx for clearing that up!!

Actually Obama DOES know a bit about business, more than 99.9% of the people on this forum, and more than many other Presidents we've had,

Support? Naaa, I voted for Ron Paul. My mission here is to show you people, how out of whack you guys are with just about everything you write related to Obama. Which we can clearly see in this thread....

TheDoc 06-15-2011 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18216739)
A business person would understand it's time to stop printing money, pull all our troops home, and veto any new spending. Otherwise, there won't be a middle class or business to wreck.

What we need now is a tough leader and a parasite who can master the word no. Most of you can't understand or see how much deep shit we are in right now. Read this carefully, if Greece defaults they are just the first domino and there ain't no stopping it.

So you're voting for Ron Paul? Because he's the ONLY person pushing for that.

Greece wouldn't be the first.

wig 06-15-2011 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18215878)
It's already started. In my plastics company we fill a silo every three days of raw polyethylene. That's 40,000 pounds. In the last 6 months it's gone from .76 per pound to 1.01 a pound. There is already another announced 6 cent increase from Exxon for August.

Steel prices have increased almost as much.

And you don't see the difference in your cherry picking of a few commodities with the claim of hyper-inflation? :helpme

wig 06-15-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18216019)
I think the inflation we have today is part of the banking structure that allowed debts back before 1800 - which was the first real inflationary period.

Hyper inflation, I think started shortly after the 1900's... by time the great deflation/depression ended they had everything in place to fully create & control the speed of inflation. We had a couple major hyper inflation jumps 10-20 years later, but that was followed by a long span of very slow inflation. Once 1973 happened, inflation started to compound and as it grows, it compounds even more, exactly like interest does.. making steady-compounding hyper inflation a normal for almost 40 years now.

Even if it goes down slightly one year, it's still up over the previous years, it has gone up every decade, like clockwork for a 100 years. Today it takes about 10-12 years and inflation doubles itself, which started just after 1973.

You are using a definition of hyper-inflation that is not in use in mainstream economics.


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TheDoc 06-15-2011 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wig (Post 18217130)
You are using a definition of hyper-inflation that is not in use in mainstream economics.


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I'm talking about money, what does mainstream say?

Minte 06-15-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wig (Post 18217124)
And you don't see the difference in your cherry picking of a few commodities with the claim of hyper-inflation? :helpme

Look around whatever space you are in. How much do you see that is not made from plastic? Then look for all the other raw materiels,carbon steel,non-ferrous and manufactured wood products. A 20% increase in the base prices of raw materiel in 180 days is hyper-inflation.

TheDoc 06-15-2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 18217217)
Look around whatever space you are in. How much do you see that is not made from plastic? Then look for all the other raw materiels,carbon steel,non-ferrous and manufactured wood products. A 20% increase in the base prices of raw materiel in 180 days is hyper-inflation.

I think... if that raw material costs everyone more, then it's just inflation, something we can define as a direct cause, like the cost of gas going up. Hyper inflation is like our bread costing us $2-$5 and growing, when it sells for $.50 in other places around the world, and holds for the most part.

Minte 06-15-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18217242)
I think... if that raw material costs everyone more, then it's just inflation, something we can define as a direct cause, like the cost of gas going up. Hyper inflation is like our bread costing us $2-$5 and growing, when it sells for $.50 in other places around the world, and holds for the most part.

Have you bought a loaf of bread lately?
From my vantage point,these historic increases in materiel costs is a short term setback. We are forced to raise our prices. In 45-60 days our receivables will begin to turn those price increases. However, the longer view for the consumer isn't as easy to solve.

Just a few days ago our purchasing manager handed me a memo he received from a supplier in Ningbo,China and they are announcing a 30% price hike in the items we purchase. We have been importing items from China for nearly a decade. This is the first time there has been a double-digit increase on a 6 month blanket order.

GregE 06-15-2011 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18215761)
guess you didn't get the memo about pakistan and the drones they are sending there

Last I heard those drones (or most of them anyway) were targeted on al qaeda figures.

I don't have a problem with that, do you?

The war I had/have a problem with is the pointless one in Iraq and even FOX hasn't blamed that one on the guy from Kenya.


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