Paying for piracy

Scan their citizens porn collections. I'm sure many governments will love that option

porn is not music, we cant go on tour, no one is going to license porn for background in tv commercials. Porn doesnt sell like music,a million copies of one thing, George Micheal had an album sell 3 million copies and was considered a failure. Music gets a piece from radio,video,licensing(from tv commercial to being played in bars) music sales are apiece of the pie.
The thing the music industry does have on us, you don't see them buying ads on pirate sites.

Yes this industry is it's stupidest moment decided to erect a barrier they now have to cross, to get sales. Without figuring that one out good luck selling the idea.

I think you'll find most just go to Tubes and watch and go. The sale of hard drives did jump when online porn became available. but it would need Terra bytes to keep the stuff people DL today. Especially pirates.


If it works for music, it must work for porn. Just like bottled water and MacDonalds marketing works for porn. Whoops, no it doesn't.

It needs to be better organised than that. 1 site doing it for themselves is something few if any can afford. How many online porn sites can afford decent content today? It needs a rethink. The days of selling cheap "exclusive" content that's cloned everywhere are coming to an end. The customers are voting with their mouses.

We gave the customer what suited affiliates. We built this part of porn on what affiliates wanted and we are paying for it today.
Then the business is screwed. Because affiliates will demand more and more that costs more and more which will be taken from the cost of the product. That's the only thing that sell. If you need 100 interested people to look at what you have for 1 to buy. What you are selling isn't right. Today 1-100 is a very distant memory.

If 99% of affiliates disappeared this year, traffic would remain the same. Affiliates don't create surfers (traffic) they merely guide it. Too many affiliates = too many distractions. The customer is spoilt for choice. And the only way this industry seems to be able to get affiliates is high payout, tons of tools, support and it costs.

The result is simple. The product isn't good enough to get people to buy.
Agreed. the only thing they did agree on crippled the industry. Give affiliates everything they ask for.

I'm not blaming affiliates, even if it sounds like it. I'm blaming the fools who set up the whole system.

You don't have to do a lot to get men to look at porn.
You don't have to do a lot to get some to buy porn.
You just keep the customer happy and he keeps coming back.

The illusion is that people came online just to look at porn and the free porn created the traffic. Stupidity. Those people were coming online and would of found tours if there were 0 affiliates. The increase in porn traffic was due to the increase in people getting connected.

Any one around in 1995 will remember the awesome conversion rates from Newsgroups. Because buying porn was so much better than free porn. Today we've gone full circle. Free porn is far far better than paid porn.

The solution is simple, turn that around or make as much money as you can before you have to leave. Because the slide is still going down.

Harsh words, but true.

I would pay for this, but I'm guessing that there's probably not going to be any real way to access your music library from an Android phone.

This is a move that also might bring a few Android users to their phone platform.

The porn industry already has this......


That's so wrong and incorrect it's not even funny. Affiliates create EXTREME world wise exposure into areas of the Internet no program could ever reach into.

We've lost a godly amount of affiliates over the last 10 years, mostly do to 2257.

The only way to get affiliates today is to do actual sales... which is why 99% of our Industry is 'actually' failing.


Like everyone in the world... something suck, others rock. It's for sure not all crap as you try to make it sound and not everyone should shoot perfect porn, not everyone wants that!


How would they have found us? How would have all those micro niches been found out? How would those people have known what to even type in?

Well people are still getting connected today and traffic isn't skyrocketing. Probably because the Internet is more than porn and chatrooms today, but that's just a guess.


I've pushed 100's of sales daily and into the millions in profit from newsgroups back in the day... however I made FAR more money with affiliates.

I remember entire paysites that were pirated in the 90's from nothing but newsgroup content. It seemed like every week someone was opening a new paysite with nothing but newsgroup content.

I also remember 1:50k ratios, 20k ratios, total bomb traffic sources, the same crap we see today. Without question, it was not all golden, it was not build it and make millions.... SHIT TONS of programs and paysites, with killer content, failed in the 90's.

Other than for those that see the slide going up.....

If you want legal porn, you can already by it at 10 cents a minute.

As long as a human being can get something for free and get away with it, they will do it. End of story.

Unless they have some some kind of ethics, which most people don't.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it would make a difference for several reasons:

1) A large portion of the videos you see on tubes are not HD to begin with. The amount of quality improvement for SD content wouldn't be worth a price.

2) The majority of guys are simply OK with rubbing one out to what they currently have. An upgrade in quality isn't going to make them cum any harder. They don't need that upgrade in order to have a better orgasm.

3) I don't think you will find millions and millions who are willing to pay to give it a shot. Not everyone is a porn collector or downloader. Some just want to cum and move on. So you are limited to only porn collectors who would find value in it.

Sure, some guys would try it. Maybe even a lot of guys if you tossed huge amounts of traffic at a system offering this. I just don't believe it would be a huge success because it's not needed on a large scale. You can't compare porn and music.

Now, if you said for $25 a month you can access every porn video on the internet, THEN I'd agree with you.