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tony286 06-14-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18215142)
I don't necessarily agree that they can spot it. We have movies that are labeled HD that aren't fully HD :) and surfers don't complain. They get played and purchased just as much as our true HD.

I think the industry gets more excited about hd than the surfer actually does. I think if the scene is hot and everyone looks like they are into it not there to pay the rent. It could be shot on hi 8 and it would sell.

alias 06-14-2011 08:25 AM

I want to see the never before seen contents.

dyna mo 06-14-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18215162)
I want to see the never before seen contents.

i'll post a ton but i want to get more shot before i do. some folks in this thread have seen some teaser images and the initial site tour and have given some good input for how to go forward with it. re: the never before seen content and paul's comments earlier as well, i'm not trying to suggest i've reinvented the porn wheel here and come up with a niche that involves a brand new sex act.

what i am doing is focusing on a specific act and trying to present it in the way that excites me. when i go through my personal porn stash, i see themes, this is one of those themes and when i've tried to find sites totally dedicated to this specific theme, there are none.

ilnjscb 06-14-2011 10:16 AM

Who is a one stop shop for that lockdown technology? Is there an expert who can set all that up for an existing site?

alias 06-14-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18215328)
what i am doing is focusing on a specific act and trying to present it in the way that excites me.

Because of this you will be successful with the site. :2 cents:

dyna mo 06-14-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18215442)
Because of this you will be successful with the site. :2 cents:

hey, thanks for that eh,
that's what my hope is.

the truly hard part is capturing that on film! although i am making good progress getting that sorted out. we'll see.

:thumbsup

DWB 06-14-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 18215413)
Who is a one stop shop for that lockdown technology? Is there an expert who can set all that up for an existing site?

Borked (Andy) was THE MAN but he is MIA. Not sure what happened to him. :Oh crap

dyna mo 06-14-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18215655)
Borked (Andy) was THE MAN but he is MIA. Not sure what happened to him. :Oh crap

i recall he had posted about an embedded video solution, or whatever it would be called, he's MIA eh?

DWB 06-14-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18215159)

And on related rant... this is what I hate about 99% of review sites, they lower ratings for non HD videos or lower bit rates (that have small file sizes but very good quality) when the surfer has no clue and actually likes what you offer.

:2 cents:

IMHO most review sites have their head totally up their ass.

They penalize good for bit rates or for having only streaming videos, even if it looks great, yet reward sites that completely steal their content or fuck surfers around.

DWB 06-14-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18215663)
i recall he had posted about an embedded video solution, or whatever it would be called, he's MIA eh?

Andy really knows his shit but he sort of disappeared. I saw he comes here to read sometimes but that's it. Damn shame really. :Oh crap

He set up the encrypted stream with a security token on some of my sites. You flat out can not rip the stream. If you want it you have to use a screen recorder to get it, and people are really not doing that yet contrary to popular belief and GFY opinion. Sooner or later maybe they will, but I think it's more hassle than it's worth.

harvey 06-14-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18214045)
super solid input everyone, thank you!

harv, email sent.

:thumbsup

replied :thumbsup

ilnjscb 06-14-2011 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18215655)
Borked (Andy) was THE MAN but he is MIA. Not sure what happened to him. :Oh crap

That sucks

Paul Markham 06-15-2011 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18214991)
i mean this is content that i have shot and will continue to shoot going forward, that fills a niche that i have yet to see done properly or focused on in any site. there are bits & pieces here and there, but it has not been focused on as a kink.

you shouldn't be so negative, with that attitude you won't sell a lot of your adult photography e-books.

That's very much of a politicians answer. I appreciate your reluctance to tell everyone and I would do the same if I had an idea.

Here's a few things to think about.

If it's a niche you really understand and can shoot it well, then go for it. If the content is really good and different enough, people will pay for it. We sell more memberships to a site with content I shot in 1980s and 90s than we do with the newer stuff.

It has nothing to do with HD, traffic, blah blah. It's content that isn't anywhere else. Retro hardcore is, this stuff isn't.

Then to the devotees of this twist of porn that you have in mind will pay for it. Niche devotees are less likely to pirate and as there are less of them, the piracy and price issue isn't important.

For 12 years online porn has played with prices (the proof is in this thread) up and down, the lower you go the less affiliates will push. The higher you go the more people who will see it as just over priced. The illusion that the price effects peoples perception of the site's content is BS. The last thing they see is the sign up and pay page. If you haven't convinced them the site is worth the price offered, then they won't buy what ever the price.

The problem is how much can you adjust the price and stay in profit. And then is it enough to convince someone?

Offer the customer something he can't say no to and you can charge what you like. Offer him the same everyone else offers. Then all you can do is play with prices or compete to get affiliates to send traffic.

My attitude is shaped by working in online porn for 15 years. The question is, is my attitude right?


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