Well, what I meant was conflict of laws not jurisdictional differences. You're right about that -- there is a distinction. You are right about pointing out that jurisdictional differences means disputes about which state court or which court (fed vs state) would have authority to hear a dispute. Conflict of laws means the difference between the local laws of where the defendant lives and where the plaintiff lives.

Now, regarding statutes and laws. They are the same thing in EFFECT. A statute is the product of legislatures--they pass a law and it gets enforced. A law can be rules created by an executive agency or a "judge made law" (US uses Case law system). Both statutes and laws have to be followed-same effect. See: http://govpubs.lib.umn.edu/guides/leg.phtml?faq=1

The ruling in the news item in my first post in this thread is a judicial interpretation of a statute, judge-made law. It is still the law and is enforceable.

Judges interpret the law. Legislatures write it. Executives (president, governors, etc) execute/implement it.

I think you're wrong on this - there was no back door in the sense you mean it. On every single TMM install, the user info was downloaded once tmm_fred's account was authenticated, using regular nats scripts to extract user db info. Those scripts required authentication, which is why like clockwork, the tmm admin account logged in, then that script was then called millions of times.

Even on virgin installs, virgin as in they were not yet even live so why was the tmm admin account being used to login at regular intervals?

TMM John publicly stated their central db was hacked (by russians if I'm not mistaken) which kept all the admin login details and that was then being used by a script to login regularly to extract new user details. Emails to my knowledge.

Where things are grey is that TMM John stated an investigation was under way and the community (or clients I can't remember which) would be kept informed. Nothing was said further due to "ongoing investigation". An investigation either yielded no clues or the investigation story was a cover up. Either way, no-one heard anything official from TMM.

Which is where all the whispering came from... rogue employee (Fred?) or not? I don't know. Like I said, the DC and initial client had all the evidence from their own investigation, which was submitted to TMM months before this whole thing blew up publicly. The only reason the DC went public was because of TMM's procrastinating position. :2 cents:

OK I see what you're saying - however, the 'backdoor' account in that case could be any admin account and the end user was always free to change the pass or delete the account as/when he felt like it. The admin account even showed at the top of the whole user list (all admin accounts do, top rank are super users etc etc).

I wouldn't class that as a backdoor - simply an admin account. Nothing hidden.

Thats why you have to use words like, implicated, accused, potential, perhaps, implied etc, so that you are not stating it as a truth, simply as an opinion or passing on information that others have stated but that you neither confirm or deny as to the truthfulness.

That way you may/or may not, avoid/or possibly not, getting what could be seen as a possible/implied threat of court action against you/or GFY for allowing/passing/re-iterating false/or possibly true events.

Fucks up the posts though!!

"What's the difference between an act, a statute and a law?

There's no cut and dried answer, but a good way to think about it is this:"

http://govpubs.lib.umn.edu/guides/leg.phtml?faq=1


Those in the field of law of course want you to "think" that's the difference. But the reality is a statute is public policy enacted by and for a corporation. You can look at it in the same way as if you were employed by a company and that company has rules. In order to stay employed with that company you must follow those rules or be fired and/or reprimanded. It is corporate, law of the sea, brought onto the land and your body is the vessel. Created originally for ships doing commerce on the sea's. This is also how they are able to blur the lines between corporations and man allowing for such things as corporations and man having equal rights such as campaign donations. But it is also used so certain individuals can hide behind a corporation to steal and kill at will and no one is ever held responsible. Sure the corporation might get a small fine but those directing the stealing and killing continue on. Maybe just under another NAME. Whereas the man would meet very different consequences. Corporate laws = legal (statutes), law of the land pertaining to man = lawful (civil laws).

law of the sea = Corporate laws/legal (statutes), law of the land pertaining to man = lawful (civil laws).

Fiddy NATS lawsuits.
I like potatoes.

Angry douchebags with lawyers.

Your mistaken if you think Shellee Hale has no money. Thats all I got to say about that!

Meh. Everyones lists seem to get stolen. Where there is gold, the hackers will go.

He's dead.

http://www.queerty.com/queerty-reade...dead-20100331/