Choker: Here's the proof about stats from YOUR traffic (screenshot inside)

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  • plsureking
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    • Aug 2003
    • 4900

    #121
    Originally posted by Choker
    yes the site is mine
    holy shit.

    Originally posted by Choker
    yes I buy from other brokers (1rst spots) and most is filtered thru my sites before selling to others. What's your point on this? Brokers buy from each other all the time, have been forever. I have one broker buying $2000 worth of traffic a day from me right now and reselling to others. SO fucking what.
    its an education for us.

    you say "Brokers buy from each other all the time, have been forever.". well that is not posted anywhere on any broker site, including yours.

    that is the point.

    Originally posted by Choker
    You can't answer the question of why you are only showing stats of 1/3rd of the traffic you are buying from me, if you are so open and honest, this question should be easy to answer right?
    fyi i dont care about his stats, so please dont use this 1/3 argument in your reply to me. it has little to do with hidden industry practices.

    u are almost a whistle blower if all these practices you are leaking are true about traffic brokers.

    i will never buy another click.
    Last edited by plsureking; 06-06-2011, 07:58 AM. Reason: end quotes
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    • Tjeezers
      Webmaster
      • Mar 2007
      • 16602

      #122
      Originally posted by Choker
      yes I buy from other brokers (1rst spots) and most is filtered thru my sites before selling to others. What's your point on this?
      In other words
      WHAT DOES NOT WORK FOR ME, IS GOOD ENOUGH TO SELL.



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      • Spudstr
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 2321

        #123
        We should just rename Frisky and Choker to montague and capulet life long battle between these two it seems.
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        • Internet User
          So Fucking Banned
          • May 2011
          • 544

          #124
          Originally posted by seeandsee
          this link: http://www.myfreeporncams.com/signup...r&smid=5844870

          is not loading on my end...
          That's because your 3rd-world country is probably getting filtered. Where are you from?

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          • Jack Sparrow
            Almost goners..
            • May 2008
            • 11420

            #125
            Originally posted by Tjeezers
            In other words
            WHAT DOES NOT WORK FOR ME, IS GOOD ENOUGH TO SELL.


            I guess thats what he is saying. But that would account for all of his traffic i bought from him. This portion is even worse, 0 time on site, 100% bounce. This means one part is reaaaaally shit and not worth a cent, the other part is downright shady.

            Not sure whats worse for him to out at the moment.

            I wonder how many of these so called sites sending me this crap are his own shitty sites filtering the worst of the worst before its being sold to people as premium traffic. How many of these questionable sites did a surfer get redirected to before they saw mine?

            And whats up with his statement that he cost me 100k in income? What is he referring to with that?

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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #126
              Originally posted by Jack Sparrow
              I guess thats what he is saying. But that would account for all of his traffic i bought from him. This portion is even worse, 0 time on site, 100% bounce. This means one part is reaaaaally shit and not worth a cent, the other part is downright shady.

              Not sure whats worse for him to out at the moment.

              I wonder how many of these so called sites sending me this crap are his own shitty sites filtering the worst of the worst before its being sold to people as premium traffic. How many of these questionable sites did a surfer get redirected to before they saw mine?

              And whats up with his statement that he cost me 100k in income? What is he referring to with that?
              well choker admits he sends traffic from his own network, probably feeds it from other brokers though. look at the trades for the site, they are all clones so i assume thats his network.`

              since it looks like a 100% skim network would explain the page views. looks like the thumbs filter by niche.

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              • Jack Sparrow
                Almost goners..
                • May 2008
                • 11420

                #127
                Sending traffic from his own network is fine.
                Sending it from questionable sites, filtering crap traffic through it up to 10 times as he admitted and selling it as premium for a high price, misleading customers with his explanations of premium clicks on his site.. Wow, thats something totally different.

                Im pretty sure not all brokers work like this, i urge you all to start looking at your stats. Dont buy crap like this!

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                • PornoMonster
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 2257

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Choker
                  You can't answer the question of why you are only showing stats of 1/3rd of the traffic you are buying from me, if you are so open and honest, this question should be easy to answer right?

                  yes the site is mine, yes I buy from other brokers (1rst spots) and most is filtered thru my sites before selling to others. What's your point on this? Brokers buy from each other all the time, have been forever. I have one broker buying $2000 worth of traffic a day from me right now and reselling to others. SO fucking what. What does this have to do with anything. I'd rather sell $2000 a day to a broker with $200 profit than 10 different buyers with $400 profit, less admin time and expenses for me.
                  So, this definition is a new way of saying CJ traffic?
                  You buy from a broker, send it to your sites, it doesn't convert, you sell it as premium US traffic.
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                  • vsex
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1277

                    #129
                    Originally posted by PornoMonster
                    So, this definition is a new way of saying CJ traffic?
                    You buy from a broker, send it to your sites, it doesn't convert, you sell it as premium US traffic.
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                    • BVF
                      Black Vagina Finder
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 13975

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Jack Sparrow
                      Sending traffic from his own network is fine.
                      Sending it from questionable sites, filtering crap traffic through it up to 10 times as he admitted and selling it as premium for a high price, misleading customers with his explanations of premium clicks on his site.. Wow, thats something totally different.

                      Im pretty sure not all brokers work like this, i urge you all to start looking at your stats. Dont buy crap like this!
                      Show ALL of the stats of STFU.

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                      • V_RocKs
                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32447

                        #131
                        What page are you sending that too?

                        If it is TGP/MGP style with no link to any other page on your domain the bounce rate SHOULD be 100%! Means 100% either closed the window or went to your sponsor without loading another page on your domain. Totally would make sense.

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                        • Agent 488
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 22511

                          #132
                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                          What page are you sending that too?

                          If it is TGP/MGP style with no link to any other page on your domain the bounce rate SHOULD be 100%! Means 100% either closed the window or went to your sponsor without loading another page on your domain. Totally would make sense.
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                          • biskoppen
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5809

                            #133
                            Links pulled.. and then put back up.. pulling them.. back up.. I'm out..
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                            • nm_
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2011
                              • 328

                              #134
                              i thought it was pretty much common knowledge that brokers are buying traffic from one another. anyone who thinks differently is pretty naive ;]

                              let's see all the stats

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                              • 2MuchMark
                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 50968

                                #135
                                There is entirely too much noise in this thread. Here's a suggestion to Jack and Choker: Stop fighting with each other and drop the insults. It makes you both look bad.

                                There's a good opportunity here for everyone.

                                Jack:
                                You are testing his traffic and finding problems. If these problems are real, point them out and let Choker fix them. You will gain a new business partner that you can respect that will help your business.

                                Choker:
                                If there's an error in your system or business somehow (I'm not saying that there is), then this is a good time to discover it and fix it. It will increase the value of your service and you will gain more customers.

                                For everyone else, we can all learn more about reading GA, or who to buy traffic from, or who NOT to buy traffic from. I think there is alot of interest in this thread but I'm losing patience digging thru all the useless arguments just to get to the important stuff.

                                Peace.

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