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  • d-null
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    • Apr 2007
    • 13724

    #1

    signing a contract and then emailing the scan as an attachment

    does this make it legal?

    how about if you never even print out the contract, just put it in Photoshop and sign your signature using a mouse and then email the pdf?

    or does a signature have to be using a real pen and ink on real paper to be valid?

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  • CYF
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    • Mar 2009
    • 10973

    #2
    lots of places are accepting electronic signatures as legally binding.
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    • d-null
      . . .
      • Apr 2007
      • 13724

      #3
      Originally posted by CYF
      lots of places are accepting electronic signatures as legally binding.
      so it is cool to just take a contract someone emailed to you to sign, stick it in photoshop, scribble my signature with the mouse, and email it back? rather than go through the hassle of printing it out, signing it with a pen, heading down to the local fedex store and paying a dollar to fax the hardcopy to them.... seems like it makes just as much sense just to do the whole thing digitally, even though my mouse written signature looks pretty rough compared to a pen

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      • Agent 488
        Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 22511

        #4
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        • TidalWave
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2007
          • 2706

          #5
          They might not accept it.
          If they want to be able to do digital signatures, they would be using www.docusign.com or www.echosign.com
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          • d-null
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            • Apr 2007
            • 13724

            #6
            Putin doesn't have any authoritah here

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            • d-null
              . . .
              • Apr 2007
              • 13724

              #7
              Originally posted by TidalWave
              They might not accept it.
              If they want to be able to do digital signatures, they would be using www.docusign.com or www.echosign.com
              ok, but realistically there isn't logically a lot of difference between faxing and emailing an attachment, in both cases it is digitized information being transmitted

              would a company state that they want a fax but not an email just because it looks more legit?

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              • kristin
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                • Sep 2002
                • 9768

                #8
                It's a signed, legit contract if sent via email. The Photoshop part, no clue.

                I just print out the last page, sign, scan and email.
                Last edited by kristin; 05-31-2011, 04:56 PM.
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                • Barry-xlovecam
                  It's 42
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 18083

                  #9
                  Most jurisdictions allow electronic signature now and this would include facsimile transmission. An emailed image has standing as a facsimile transmission.

                  http://constructionlawnews.com/contract-terms

                  http://www.wolframlawfirm.com/LawDog...s-applies.aspx

                  Reciprocity in promissory estoppel;

                  If you agree to a contract, work is commenced and payment made promissory estoppel is created and future actions are usually governed by the contract's terms if not in conflict with the UCC "Statute of Frauds" (US Law).

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                  • pamon
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3113

                    #10
                    programs like pdfpenpro on the mac allow you to sign them electronically.
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                    • DamianJ
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 15808

                      #11
                      Originally posted by d-null
                      does this make it legal?

                      how about if you never even print out the contract, just put it in Photoshop and sign your signature using a mouse and then email the pdf?

                      or does a signature have to be using a real pen and ink on real paper to be valid?
                      http://www.smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/ is your friend

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                      • ilnjscb
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 8974

                        #12
                        I've had electronic contracts enforced by the courts in the US, especially if there is evidence that the document was regarded as "in force".

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                        • Emil
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 5658

                          #13
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                          • DWB
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 31779

                            #14
                            Use a pen tablet, sign it digitally, send it.

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                            • grumpy
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 9870

                              #15
                              confirmation by email is already legally binding
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                              • Supz
                                Arthur Flegenheimer
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 11057

                                #16
                                Originally posted by grumpy
                                confirmation by email is already legally binding
                                This is true.

                                So yea. All of the above. I take signed contracts like this every day.

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                                  • Spudstr
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 2321

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CYF
                                    lots of places are accepting electronic signatures as legally binding.
                                    Its now law that e-signatures are just as binding as a normal signature.

                                    See "Electronic Signatures in global and national commerce act aka ESIGN Act
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                                    • punker barbie
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                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 10232

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kristin
                                      It's a signed, legit contract if sent via email. I just print out the last page, sign, scan and email.
                                      exactly & you can buy a printer with a scanner for less than $100 bucks.
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