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WarChild 05-29-2011 12:03 PM

Anybody who feels like they're actually living in a Police state should make it a point to find somebody from the former Soviet Union and get a little perspective.

TheSquealer 05-29-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18175465)
Fact - the police came in and "controlled" the situation that was not speculative. Besides I questioned part of his post not in total that you then took as his total response as me being speculative. So do me a favor and fuck off and get attention elsewhere or stick to the thread subject.

Again man... what the FUCK are you talking about?

YOU used the word "speculation"

YOU then addressed that same remark which you called speculation with speculation of your own as if that speculation was fact.

Thats it.

Thats all.

Thats all i commented on.

I didn't read the guys post.. just your simple comment. I was commenting on YOUR remark. Its no more complicated than that.


Jesus, I never noticed what a fucking nutcase you are.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 05-29-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Internet User (Post 18174802)
Examples of police state in USA: Police violently arrest man for dancing with girlfriend, then beat up some others

You probably don't really live in NY, or America for that matter, because if you did, you'd know we are so far from a police state :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think your message was primarily made to scare other people on this board that don't live in the U.S., as the video is nothing close to how you described it, which is pretty pathetic on your part.

Bladewire 05-29-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by INever (Post 18175456)
Passive whiny Americans......

Guess you're just trying to do business here with non Americans. I'll remember that. I could never insult a whole country of people based on a negative stereotype. pretty pathetic.

Rochard 05-29-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18175055)
make up your mind , it either looks like innocent people got arrested or it doesn't .


As much as i would like to trust your "i saw it on youtube" drug test. They looked a like a bunch of people dancing. They certainly weren't creating a nuisance to anyone there except the police.

The first dude they arrested was dancing thats it. He wasn't creating a nuisance in any way.

Your not a fucking idiot, nor am I. You know you see being arrested, and you damn well know that you don't see why they are being arrested.

It's very easy to say "Oh these poor people are being arrested" but I'm pretty fucking sure if I'm in my local park high as a kite dry humping my girlfriend, it's only a matter of time before someone is going to complain to the local PD, they are going to come to look into the disturbance, they are going to see I'm intoxticated, and then charge me with a number of violations starting with creating a public disturbance:

Quote:

(a) A person is guilty of creating a public disturbance when, with intent to cause inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof, he (1) engages in fighting or in violent, tumultuous or threatening behavior; or (2) annoys or interferes with another person by offensive conduct; or (3) makes unreasonable noise.
Key word here is "offensive conduct".

These people were acting like idiots, people complained, the police were called, police asked some questions and instead of responding, they wanted to dance and kiss each other. If you mouth off to police officers, don't want to help, and are unable to answer basic questions, guess what - At that point you get cuffs put on and you get hauled down the the police station.

It's not a fucking police state. No one was "violently arrested". They were not arrested for "dancing".

Rochard 05-29-2011 12:28 PM

Real innocent. "Adam" is Adam Kokesh, an activist with a long record of being arrested. His goal is to go someplace, start an incident, and then record him and his friends being arrested.

okdesign 05-29-2011 12:33 PM

Only in US.... :error

adamthick 05-29-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18174994)
the police violating people's rights... nothing new... :(

my thoughts exactly.

Mike Honcho 05-29-2011 12:39 PM

Obviously their all on drugs.

marlboroack 05-29-2011 01:31 PM

I could have taken em all and left em in a Coma on the floor. I hate douche heads like that, take their job way to serious.

Seth Manson 05-29-2011 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18175492)
Your not a fucking idiot, nor am I.

You're - a shortened version of "you are"

Your - implies possession of something. "Drop your gun."

buzzard 05-29-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18175498)
Real innocent. "Adam" is Adam Kokesh, an activist with a long record of being arrested. His goal is to go someplace, start an incident, and then record him and his friends being arrested.

WoW an activist???! EXTREME!! The Horror!

.

Linguist 05-29-2011 07:34 PM

By pure definition of irony, there's a law against dancing at Thomas Jefferson's memorial.

Why ironic?

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson.

That's coming from one of the founding fathers who's sure rolling in his grave just about now. Arrested for dancing? Fuck's sake. Don't the cops have better things to do? This is your tax money hard at work, people.

buzzard 05-29-2011 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist (Post 18176097)
By pure definition of irony, there's a law against dancing at Thomas Jefferson's memorial.

Why ironic?

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson.

That's coming from one of the founding fathers who's sure rolling in his grave just about now. Arrested for dancing? Fuck's sake.

Exactly :thumbsup

BFT3K 05-29-2011 08:07 PM

http://sp7.fotolog.com/photo/39/6/30...73360917_f.jpg

cykoe6 05-29-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18175331)
much respect to the cops for keeping our national monuments clean of progressive/liberal filth.

Nicely said. :thumbsup

buzzard 05-29-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18176201)
Nicely said. :thumbsup

Liberal filth to you is?

LedZep 05-29-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18175331)
Great law, clean arrests...much respect to the cops for keeping our national monuments clean of progressive/liberal filth.



Don't you have some waterboarding tapes to go jack off to?

Jakez 05-29-2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18175041)
Act like a fucking idiot, you get treated like a fucking idiot.

QFT. Mr "Internet User" likes to stick up for his kind. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18175055)
make up your mind , it either looks like innocent people got arrested or it doesn't .


As much as i would like to trust your "i saw it on youtube" drug test. They looked a like a bunch of people dancing. They certainly weren't creating a nuisance to anyone there except the police.

The first dude they arrested was dancing thats it. He wasn't creating a nuisance in any way.

The video and thread title clearly takes the whole situation out of context. These people knew they weren't supposed to be there dancing (flash mob) but they decided to be there... dancing. If they didn't want to get arrested then they shouldn't have purposely went there to dance in front of cops. I don't roll up a blunt and go find the nearest cop to smoke it in front of.

'lets go stick up for our rights by breaking the law and taunting police!'

Rangermoore 05-29-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 18175086)
Flash mob retards deserve a good beating. There are plenty of examples of police abuse in the US...... but this is not one of them.

Right on.. You hit the nail on the head ! :thumbsup:thumbsup

buzzard 05-29-2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18176302)
QFT. Mr "Internet User" likes to stick up for his kind. :)



The video and thread title clearly takes the whole situation out of context. These people knew they weren't supposed to be there dancing (flash mob) but they decided to be there... dancing. If they didn't want to get arrested then they shouldn't have purposely went there to dance in front of cops. I don't roll up a blunt and go find the nearest cop to smoke it in front of.

So why don't you go there with your headphones on and happen to dance a little? You can leave the pot at home or would that be out of context?
.

Phoenix 05-30-2011 12:45 AM

eh...seems they were trying to make a statement...they got their message out...no need to whine about it.

i think the other people there were with them as well.
i didnt watch the full video
they have the right idea, just need to up the ante a bit

Jakez 05-30-2011 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 18176310)
So why don't you go there with your headphones on and happen to dance a little? You can leave the pot at home or would that be out of context?
.

LOL, give me a fucking break, everything I said was common fucking sense. These people want to go and stick up for their rights by blatantly breaking a [retarded] law in front of police they deserve to be arrested. Go fight the battle elsewhere, making yourself look like a hippy moron in front of someone with the right to arrest you and then whining about it isn't how you do it. No comment on the pot thing I'm not sure what that has to do with anything..

To answer your stupid question in your stupid mindstate. If I went there to dance with my headphones on I would see all the police engaging people and probably take the headphones off to see what the big deal is, then I would leave. Unless I was a fucking moron.

Please tell me how many innocent people dancing that didn't know what was going on were arrested?

Cherry7 05-30-2011 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18175314)
It is against the law to go over the speed limit in your car.

If you do you can receive a ticket.

You break the law you pay for it.

Who's the victim in that criminal offense?

Not every crime has a victim.

The victims are the thousands that die on the roads every year. The higher the average speed the more deaths.

Cherry7 05-30-2011 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18175330)
Crap. i know some police over here and they all say that it's complicated to arrest a black person as the very first thing they say every time is that they were arrested just because they were black. The British police have to tread very carefully around ethnic groups because of the stupid PC brigade. The trouble with some black people is that they think that the police are racist, never mind that they have committed an offense to get themselves noticed in the first place.

The offense being that they are black and driving an expensive car for example.
Obama was the first black dude in an expensive car that the filth (as the British police are known ) didn't stop!

Stop and search stats and many reports prove that the Cops are racist, sexist, semi fascist in their believes and behavior.

Cherry7 05-30-2011 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18175467)
Anybody who feels like they're actually living in a Police state should make it a point to find somebody from the former Soviet Union and get a little perspective.

A lived in communist Poland for 6 years, I have been arrested 3 times there and about three times in the UK....

UK cops beat me up, polish police wanted me to show them the engine on my Ford Cortina.

You have to remember that every country tells its citizens how bad it is living in the enemy's country. That's how they do .

SmokeyTheBear 05-30-2011 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18176302)
These people knew they weren't supposed to be there dancing (flash mob) but they decided to be there... dancing. If they didn't want to get arrested then they shouldn't have purposely went there to dance in front of cops.

do you know who's memorial it is ?


Do you understand that asking people to not dance there is a complete slap in the face of one of america's founding fathers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18176302)
I don't roll up a blunt and go find the nearest cop to smoke it in front of.

bob marley didn't help build america..
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18176302)
'lets go stick up for our rights by breaking the law

you do understand that the man the whole memorial is built around told us it is our OBLIGATION to disobey stupid laws ?

iamtam 05-30-2011 07:24 AM

when you look a little harder you can see they were baiting the police to cause a scene. they they start blabbering about mias and stuff. there is more to this story.

femdomdestiny 05-30-2011 07:46 AM

Police
 
One thing is sure. I wouldn't work in police for 10 millions per day. Is there more dirty and immoral job?

_Richard_ 05-30-2011 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18175467)
Anybody who feels like they're actually living in a Police state should make it a point to find somebody from the former Soviet Union and get a little perspective.

would that person i am looking for have a checklist of things that need to happen before people become concerned?

i have heard this 'at least we don't live in beruit' argument before.

justinsain 05-30-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18176774)
The victims are the thousands that die on the roads every year. The higher the average speed the more deaths.


That's why they have the law but that's not what you said.

You.......No victim = no crime

My point.....You can speed on an empty road without interacting with anyone else and get the ticket.
In this case you have committed a crime but there was no victim which is my point.

The reason there is a law to prevent the actions of the people in this video is to prevent a situation from getting out of control like an unlawful assembly that blows up into a riot where people could get hurt and property damaged which would be a crime with victims.

IllTestYourGirls 05-30-2011 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18177054)
That's why they have the law but that's not what you said.

You.......No victim = no crime

My point.....You can speed on an empty road without interacting with anyone else and get the ticket.
In this case you have committed a crime but there was no victim which is my point.

The reason there is a law to prevent the actions of the people in this video is to prevent a situation from getting out of control like an unlawful assembly that blows up into a riot where people could get hurt and property damaged which would be a crime with victims.

So we should ban porn because it could make nut jobs so horny they rape people? We need to prevent people from being raped! Ban porn now!

iamtam 05-30-2011 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist (Post 18176097)
By pure definition of irony, there's a law against dancing at Thomas Jefferson's memorial.

Why ironic?

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson.

That's coming from one of the founding fathers who's sure rolling in his grave just about now. Arrested for dancing? Fuck's sake. Don't the cops have better things to do? This is your tax money hard at work, people.

what is stupid is that there is no reason to dance there except to cause a disturbance. the guy is an asshole plain and simple, someone 12 clicks wants to be.

justinsain 05-30-2011 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18177086)
So we should ban porn because it could make nut jobs so horny they rape people? We need to prevent people from being raped! Ban porn now!

All I was pointing out is you do not have to have a victim to be guilty of a crime which was what the person I quoted said.

IllTestYourGirls 05-30-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18177098)
All I was pointing out is you do not have to have a victim to be guilty of a crime which was what the person I quoted said.

There is no crime if there is no victim. People need to start learning their duty as American citizens and learn about jury nullification. :2 cents:

Roald 05-30-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18176779)
The offense being that they are black and driving an expensive car for example.
Obama was the first black dude in an expensive car that the filth (as the British police are known ) didn't stop!

Stop and search stats and many reports prove that the Cops are racist, sexist, semi fascist in their believes and behavior.

Lets see some of these reports.

And i feel cheated, where is the violence and beating up in is video :(

justinsain 05-30-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18177099)
There is no crime if there is no victim. People need to start learning their duty as American citizens and learn about jury nullification. :2 cents:

Definition of CRIME

1
: an act or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law and that makes the offender liable to punishment by that law; especially : a gross violation of law

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime

Linguist 05-30-2011 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamtam (Post 18177093)
what is stupid is that there is no reason to dance there except to cause a disturbance. the guy is an asshole plain and simple, someone 12 clicks wants to be.

Here's a reason: to celebrate that you live in a country where you can bloody dance in front of of a memorial of one of the founding fathers and be thankful that the country was built on principles of freedom and not oppression.

Because when republicans decide that porn's no good and it gets outlawed, smartasses like you will be commenting with "LOL they went through airport security with nude pictures on their computers, what a bunch of idiots. no wonder they got arrested.". And the scary thing is? The majority will agree.

Cherry7 05-30-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18177109)
Lets see some of these reports.

And i feel cheated, where is the violence and beating up in is video :(

Stephen Lawrence, a black British teenager (born 13 September 1974) from Eltham, southeast London, was stabbed to death while waiting for a bus on the evening of 22 April 1993

In 1999, an inquiry headed by Sir William Macpherson examined the original Metropolitan police investigation and concluded that the force was "institutionally racist" and has been called 'one of the most important moments in the modern history of criminal justice in Britain'.[4] This led to the publication of the Macpherson Report 1999, which investigated institutional racism within the Metropolitan police.


New report says racism still rife in police force. Stop-and-search powers directed more than ever against black Britons
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2.../police-racism


http://southwalesanarchists.files.wo...tester-001.jpg

PR_Glen 05-30-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18175052)
"We must never forget that everything Hitler did was legal." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

why is everything a comparison to hitler? Is he the only tyrant in history or what?

Cherry7 05-30-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 18177149)
Definition of CRIME

1
: an act or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law and that makes the offender liable to punishment by that law; especially : a gross violation of law

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime

Yes, That is a dictionary, and it is right, there are lots of laws which punish people when there is no victim. Not your stupid example about speeding, as there are thousands of victims of bad driving every year, and yes only a stupid policeman fines you for speeding on an empty road.

Jews broke the law in Nazi Germany, blacks in S Africa, fucking someone up the ass - all crimes , but we should ask...is there a victim or is this just bigotry and intolerance?

So who is the victim is avery good question to ask....

Man smokes dope,

Anal sex

Porn

where are the victims?

BV 05-30-2011 11:19 AM

We have an old saying:

You might be able to beat the rap, but you're not going to beat the ride! :-)

Poindexterity 05-30-2011 11:29 AM

This video is some hardcore "boy who cried wolf" shit for real.
Overhype too many of these and no one will believe you when you try to draw their
attention to some ACTUAL shit.

O MARINA 05-30-2011 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18175467)
Anybody who feels like they're actually living in a Police state should make it a point to find somebody from the former Soviet Union and get a little perspective.

:thumbsup
and NOT only about the Police

JFK 05-30-2011 12:01 PM

100 dances to jail

CYF 05-30-2011 01:23 PM

The dancers were protesting an appeals court ruling handed down last week that the national monuments are places for reflection and contemplation -- and that dancing distracted from such an experience.

In 2008, Mary Brooke Oberwetter and a group of friends went to the Jefferson to commemorate the president's 265th birthday by dancing silently, while listening to music on headphones. Park Police ordered the revelers to disperse and arrested them when they did not.

glowlite 05-30-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18176979)
... you do understand that the man the whole memorial is built around told us it is our OBLIGATION to disobey stupid laws ?

"The man the whole memorial is built around" also owned 100s of slaves (several of whom he knocked-up) and thought blacks were inferior to whites and that blacks needed supervision.

andrej_NDC 05-30-2011 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18175444)
Who are they and who is telling them what? How are they being told? Via which medium? Is there some type of schedule that says when they will tell us more? I'm afraid that I haven't been getting these messages and it might be nice to tune in for a little bit and hear what they have to tell.

Also, where is this place that which you speak where people don't complain? Certainly not in the US b/c everyone bitches about everything. Especially in NYC. lol

Well, first of all, the censorship on TV creeped me out. I had time warner cable in NYC and some movies I saw before, I thought they were different movies...so many scenes were changed(the dialogues) and so many scenes cut out, compared to what we get in Europe, its fucked up. Talk about censorship in China then...

Second, if you want to travel outside of the country, the doctors behave like there is no civilized living beyond the border. Even for countries which are safer and cleaner than the US, they tell you to take so many different vaccinations and pills, its crazy. I'm talking about the official sites, not just doctor next-door recommendations.

And I could add so much more...cameras on every corner, every city, no matter how big or small, inside every building, etc etc...police knows pretty much everything about everyone within the borders, its creepy...but yeah, if you aren't used to anything else, it might look like its for your protection. lol

buzzard 05-30-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 18177850)
"The man the whole memorial is built around" also owned 100s of slaves (several of whom he knocked-up) and thought blacks were inferior to whites and that blacks needed supervision.

That changes his message... how?

Rochard 05-30-2011 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzard (Post 18176030)
WoW an activist???! EXTREME!! The Horror!

.

How much money do you think this fucker costs our government? Hundreds of people have been arrested between him and his friends; What the fuck for? So he intentionally piss people off and then make money when he gets arrested?


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