Scientists have confirmed planet orbiting dwarf star has stable atmosphere, temps, and liquid water

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  • D Ghost
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    • May 2006
    • 9820

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    Scientists have confirmed planet orbiting dwarf star has stable atmosphere, temps, and liquid water

    French scientists have confirmed with computer models that Gliese 581d, a planet orbiting a red dwarf star about 20 light years from here, has a stable atmosphere, comfortable temperatures, and a surface covered in liquid water. It's the first planet orbiting another star that could definitely support life, and it's basically next door.

    While Gliese 581d is too small and far away to observe directly, we can infer some things about it from the gravitational effects that it has on its parent star and fellow planets. We know that Gliese 581d is about twice the size of Earth (and six times the mass), we know that it's rocky (not a gas giant like Jupiter or Saturn). This means that it's large enough and dense enough to be able to hold on to a substantial atmosphere. We can also estimate about how much energy Gliese 581d receives from its red dwarf star, and based on all of this information, French scientists have been able to model a range of potential climates showing that "GJ581d will have a stable atmosphere and surface liquid water for a wide range of plausible cases."
    First 'habitable' exoplanet confirmed: http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/4...anet-confirmed

    Habitable exoplanet confirmed? Warm and wet, scientists say: http://dvice.com/archives/2011/05/gliese-581d-con.php
  • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Apr 2011
    • 1241

    #2
    On the down side, since the planet is much larger 2 times the size of earth its gravity is 2 times that of earth as well.

    So there will be no basking in the sun on other planets anytime soon
    Let alone trying to get there/ It might take a while till I invent space folding.
    Last edited by ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-26-2011, 04:29 PM.

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    • VIXEN ESCORTS
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      • Oct 2003
      • 1103

      #3
      http://www.gliese581d.com/

      Domain taken, maybe new tld opportunities for ICM

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      • CyberHustler
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        • Feb 2006
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        #4
        “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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        • D Ghost
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          • May 2006
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          #5
          Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
          On the down side, since the planet is much larger 2 times the size of earth its gravity is 2 times that of earth as well.

          So there will be no basking in the sun on other planets anytime soon
          Let alone trying to get there/ It might take a while till I invent space folding.
          Yeah it says with our current technology would take humans 300,000 years, and a probe could take 1-2 centuries. I guess we won't be getting the unobtanium anytime soon.

          Hacking the universe... space folding.


          Originally posted by UKVixens
          http://www.gliese581d.com/

          Domain taken, maybe new tld opportunities for ICM
          Last edited by D Ghost; 05-26-2011, 04:37 PM.

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          • D Ghost
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            • May 2006
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            #6
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            • D Ghost
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              #7


              But is that 581d?
              Last edited by D Ghost; 05-26-2011, 04:39 PM.

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              • moeloubani
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                • Dec 2007
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                #8
                Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
                On the down side, since the planet is much larger 2 times the size of earth its gravity is 2 times that of earth as well.

                So there will be no basking in the sun on other planets anytime soon
                Let alone trying to get there/ It might take a while till I invent space folding.
                Gravity scales with mass as opposed to size, so think of along the lines of 6 times as much even worse :/
                Last edited by moeloubani; 05-26-2011, 04:38 PM.

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                • Seth Manson
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                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3988

                  #9
                  Originally posted by moeloubani
                  Gravity scales with mass as opposed to size, so think of along the lines of 6 times as much even worse :/

                  You beat me too, but yes you're correct.

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                  • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                    • Jul 2004
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                    #10


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                    • D Ghost
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                      • May 2006
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by moeloubani
                      Gravity scales with mass as opposed to size, so think of along the lines of 6 times as much even worse :/
                      "We know that Gliese 581d is about twice the size of Earth (and six times the mass)" and "at double Earth's gravity"

                      Are the scientists wrong to say it's only double?
                      Last edited by D Ghost; 05-26-2011, 04:42 PM.

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                      • D Ghost
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                        • May 2006
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                        #12
                        And false, 6x mass does NOT mean 6 times gravity.


                        The radius is indeed proportional to the cube root of the mass so if r = r_earth * M^(1/3). Then, g will be g_earth * M / (M^(1/3))^2 = g_earth*M^(1/3) and everyone will be 1.91 times heavier.

                        You might be able to walk for a little bit before... ROFL

                        "Before fainting, he mentions yawning and feeling "sleepy and cold". Chronic hypergravity tests on rats, mice, dogs and monkeys (between 1.25g and 2.5g) have shown an effect on circadian rhythms: decreased locomotor activity (perhaps indicating drowsiness) and a drop in core body temperature, a "centrifuge-induced hypothermic response"." http://jap.physiology.org/content/95/3/1266.full


                        But lifeforms very well could have evolved to what we would know as extra gravity.
                        Last edited by D Ghost; 05-26-2011, 04:53 PM.

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                        • moeloubani
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                          And false, 6x mass does NOT mean 6 times gravity.


                          The radius is indeed proportional to the cube root of the mass so if r = r_earth * M^(1/3). Then, g will be g_earth * M / (M^(1/3))^2 = g_earth*M^(1/3) and everyone will be 1.91 times heavier.

                          This weight wouldn't be very crippling, you should still be able to walk for an hour or so. ROFL

                          If Gliese 581d has the same composition as earth it would be compressed a bit more however
                          Guess not lol forgot the ^2 on the r

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                          • D Ghost
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                            • May 2006
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by moeloubani
                            Guess not lol forgot the ^2 on the r
                            All good

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                            • amateurbfs
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                              #15
                              Bunch of google scientists on this mother fucker.

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                              • Coup
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                                • Apr 2010
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
                                On the down side, since the planet is much larger 2 times the size of earth its gravity is 2 times that of earth as well.

                                So there will be no basking in the sun on other planets anytime soon
                                Let alone trying to get there/ It might take a while till I invent space folding.
                                Humans could survive in a 2g environment. easily.

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                                • D Ghost
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                                  • May 2006
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by amateurbfs
                                  Bunch of google scientists on this mother fucker.

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                                  • Caligari
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                                    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                      • bronco67
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                                        • Dec 2006
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                                        #20
                                        If something is so far away, how could they possibly know what the planet is like? I know it's science and all that, but it's just hard to believe.

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                                        • Seth Manson
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                                          • Jul 2010
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                          If something is so far away, how could they possibly know what the planet is like? I know it's science and all that, but it's just hard to believe.
                                          They dont know for sure what it is like. But they did confirm that they know what their computer models are like.

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                                          • Overload
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bronco67
                                            If something is so far away, how could they possibly know what the planet is like? I know it's science and all that, but it's just hard to believe.
                                            i think this expalins the "how to" ... http://www.universetoday.com/50443/f...sun-like-star/
                                            There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                                            • Tempest
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                                              • May 2004
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                                              #23
                                              Fucking media... "a wide range of plausible cases" does not confirm one damn thing. Idiots..

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                                              • Jakez
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                                                #24
                                                2x the gravity of Earth, is that really life threatening? Doubt it..



                                                WTF is this? lol after pasting the URL I noticed foxnews.com, but if that's where this planet is at then WTF?
                                                Last edited by Jakez; 05-26-2011, 10:09 PM.
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                                                • Zorgman
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                                                  • Aug 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Don't worry if we ever got to Cliese581 there will still be slow internet, taxes, girls with saggy boobs, hairy pussies and of course death. But lets look on the bright side, it's 300,000 years away.
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                                                  • rowan
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                                                    • Mar 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Jakez
                                                    2x the gravity of Earth, is that really life threatening? Doubt it..
                                                    Would you be comfortable if your body weight doubled?

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