I forgot to renew a domain and someone else already snatched it up. Does anyone know how long the grace period is with Domain Name Systems if you forget to renew a domain?
Does Domain Name Systems not have a grace period?
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I think you have 90 days, not sure though.Comment
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I think that's Directnic...they have a grace period. I don't think DomainNameSystems does I am don't think my domain has expired over 30 days yet and when I check whois it's a different owner. I think it's been 2 weeks the most.
When I log in the admin my domain is gone. There is no option to renew at an extra fee (which I would be glad to do)Comment
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I believe grace period is different for each registrar..I think that's Directnic...they have a grace period. I don't think DomainNameSystems does I am don't think my domain has expired over 30 days yet and when I check whois it's a different owner. I think it's been 2 weeks the most.
When I log in the admin my domain is gone. There is no option to renew at an extra fee (which I would be glad to do)
If domain is worth the headache, I would try to contact their support and ask what happendComment
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They do not really have a grace period. I've lost names there after a few days, I've also had names expire for close to two weeks and been able to rereg them.
It seems to depend on wether or not one of their shadowy aggregator drop buyers wants the name.
if one of their aggregators grabbed your name, you are fucked.Comment
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They do not really have a grace period. I've lost names there after a few days, I've also had names expire for close to two weeks and been able to rereg them.
It seems to depend on wether or not one of their shadowy aggregator drop buyers wants the name.
if one of their aggregators grabbed your name, you are fucked.
Yep, that's what I think too... What is their shadowy aggregator? Is that a service they offer? How can I tell if an aggregator grabbed it?Comment
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Not seeing anything about a grace period/ redemption status http://www.domainnamesystems.com/legal.html
As consideration for the domain name registration services provided by DomainNameSystems, you shall pay all non-refundable applicable initial registration fees and renewal fees. You will be notified when renewal fees are due, and it shall be your responsibility to ensure that such fees are paid. Should these fees go unpaid by the expiration date specified in the renewal notice, your registration will be cancelled, and the name can be resold or reassigned to another party. You agree that DomainNameSystems shall have no liability whatsoever with respect to any such cancellation, and that DomainNameSystems may cancel or reassign the domain name in the event of delinquency.Comment
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They finally emailed me back....Not seeing anything about a grace period/ redemption status http://www.domainnamesystems.com/legal.html
Hello Jacki8e
When I look at your acct the domain had expired on May 8th and was not
deleted out of your acct until May 22nd.. which is much longer than generally
allowed for domain expirys. It was deleted from your acct and placed in a
list of expired domains that all our customers have access to.
If you are interested in purchasing the domain back please give me an offer
that you would be willing to offer the current owner of the domain as this
particular customer would not answer any emails you may want to send.
thank youComment
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if they have a aftermarket domain auction before getting deleted thats probably what hapened ayeCompound interest.Comment
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well, i can tell by looking at the page the aggregator throws up on your dropped name. aggers tend to have distinctive pages.
"shadowy agggregator" isn't a service, it's a group of domain drop speculators that buy up domain drops and throw up a harvestor page on them to try to extract a small profit off the traffic left on the name.
"shadowy" because people have speculated without proof that they are somehow connected to cheapies and gord. they don't have to be tho, aggregators will buy drops wherever they can get them at a price that makes it likely they will see a profit.
there was a day when domainnamesystems was considered a decent registrar. now it's a pit.Comment
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Sounds like they are holding it themselves, and THEY are the "particular customer" that "would not answer any emails you may want to send"They finally emailed me back....
Hello Jacki8e
When I look at your acct the domain had expired on May 8th and was not
deleted out of your acct until May 22nd.. which is much longer than generally
allowed for domain expirys. It was deleted from your acct and placed in a
list of expired domains that all our customers have access to.
If you are interested in purchasing the domain back please give me an offer
that you would be willing to offer the current owner of the domain as this
particular customer would not answer any emails you may want to send.
thank you
There was a recent post by $5submissions linking to an article about expired domains that whilst old still appears relevant.
A couple of months ago, I was getting daily emails saying the owner of liveasiangirlcam.com (singular of my domain) was for sale and inviting me to make offers. I checked the whois and it had expired 2 months before, and was "pending delete". as I didn't respond to any of these emails, they then sent me a last email saying that I could enter the final bidding for just $100.
I didn't. Instead, I waited until the day specified in the article (from memory I think it was about 80 days or something?) and then I went to another registrar and got it for $9.
I didn't really need that domain, but I didn't really want it appearing on a dropped domain list and somebody else doing something with it so I could be patient, but if the domain in question is important to you, don't risk doing what I did.Comment
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Domainnamesystems is known for doing this. If you don't renew your domain it's gone. Sometimes after just a few days. There are many many horror stories about them on this board.
Most registrars send reminders about renewals months in advance, then the last weeks every week, then every day. There is no way to miss it. But domainnamesystesms doesn't send any reminders at all. If you run out of funds in your account they only send 1 failed to renew email. If you happen to be travelling or something and find it a few days later, your domain is already gone ...Comment
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Sounds like they are holding it themselves, and THEY are the "particular customer" that "would not answer any emails you may want to send"
There was a recent post by $5submissions linking to an article about expired domains that whilst old still appears relevant.
A couple of months ago, I was getting daily emails saying the owner of liveasiangirlcam.com (singular of my domain) was for sale and inviting me to make offers. I checked the whois and it had expired 2 months before, and was "pending delete". as I didn't respond to any of these emails, they then sent me a last email saying that I could enter the final bidding for just $100.
I didn't. Instead, I waited until the day specified in the article (from memory I think it was about 80 days or something?) and then I went to another registrar and got it for $9.
I didn't really need that domain, but I didn't really want it appearing on a dropped domain list and somebody else doing something with it so I could be patient, but if the domain in question is important to you, don't risk doing what I did.
Yep, I had a feeling it's them too. I just didn't want to say anything. I regret not transferring it to Directnic.
Konda, I never received any emails. Directnic always send me a gazillion.Comment
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Directnic's not that great either, there are reports of them squatting domains and other shady shit. Google has more info on it if you search.Webmaster Coupons Coupons and discounts for hosting, domains, SSL Certs, and more!
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Domainnamesystems does send out expiring domain notices. They have been doing that forDomainnamesystems is known for doing this. If you don't renew your domain it's gone. Sometimes after just a few days. There are many many horror stories about them on this board.
Most registrars send reminders about renewals months in advance, then the last weeks every week, then every day. There is no way to miss it. But domainnamesystesms doesn't send any reminders at all. If you run out of funds in your account they only send 1 failed to renew email. If you happen to be travelling or something and find it a few days later, your domain is already gone ...
a long time.Comment
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Gord has been fucking people for years. If you can you'd better transfer every domain you have with Domainnamesystems ASAP. G'luck with that though.
I sincerely hope any domains you regged there have minimal value to your business.
Sorry! ............Comment
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not to me, not for about 3 years. I asked them to start sending them again, they said they couldn't. For a while Lisa was mailing me personally when I had drops coming up, but I haven't heard from her in months.
all I get now is that first day of the month "domains expiring this month" letter.
I used to have 340 names there.Comment
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Maybe you want them to send more notices, but that is a notice.not to me, not for about 3 years. I asked them to start sending them again, they said they couldn't. For a while Lisa was mailing me personally when I had drops coming up, but I haven't heard from her in months.
all I get now is that first day of the month "domains expiring this month" letter.
I used to have 340 names there.
I thought you said that they didn't send any notice.Comment
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I was replying to another poster's statement, which I interpreted as being about the types of notices sent before and after a specific name is expiring.
like we all get from places like godaddy and moniker.
like we used to get from cheapies. used to get a 30 day notice, a 5 day notice, a 1 day notice, and an expired notice.
I don't receive any of those notices anymore.
but, if we ignore that my comment was about expiring notices for specific names, yes you are right, i did say "any", and domainnamesystems does still send that first of the month email with a list of names expiring that month.Comment
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Even though this company doesn't sound particularly ethical, you have to accept that it is your own responsibility to know when domain names expire.
I have around 80 or so over 3 accounts at 2 registrars. I maintain a central log in excel but also, every month, I login to each account and check what will expire next month and renew the ones I don't want to lose.
You rent domain names rather than "own" them and you lose access to things that you rent when you don't renew them. Any decent domain will have no shortage of people waiting to take it over.Comment
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Hey, how come when check out the whois of my new domain, it shows the owner registered it on Registration Date: 2001-05-08They finally emailed me back....
Hello Jacki8e
When I look at your acct the domain had expired on May 8th and was not
deleted out of your acct until May 22nd.. which is much longer than generally
allowed for domain expirys. It was deleted from your acct and placed in a
list of expired domains that all our customers have access to.
If you are interested in purchasing the domain back please give me an offer
that you would be willing to offer the current owner of the domain as this
particular customer would not answer any emails you may want to send.
thank you
but the registrar told me it was not deleted until 5/22?
How come this individual was able to register on the exact same day it expired?Comment
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probably an expired domain auction.Webmaster Coupons Coupons and discounts for hosting, domains, SSL Certs, and more!
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The problem is that domainnamesystems renews from funds in your account. If you have like 50 domains renewing, but it turns out you don't have enough funds for all 50, the others will just expire. If you happen to be traveling or something at that time, you lose the domains. They should give you like a few notices and reminders and give you at least 30 days to renew it.Even though this company doesn't sound particularly ethical, you have to accept that it is your own responsibility to know when domain names expire.
I have around 80 or so over 3 accounts at 2 registrars. I maintain a central log in excel but also, every month, I login to each account and check what will expire next month and renew the ones I don't want to lose.
You rent domain names rather than "own" them and you lose access to things that you rent when you don't renew them. Any decent domain will have no shortage of people waiting to take it over.Comment
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Sorry mate, but even though I think they are being mercenary, your point is weak.The problem is that domainnamesystems renews from funds in your account. If you have like 50 domains renewing, but it turns out you don't have enough funds for all 50, the others will just expire. If you happen to be traveling or something at that time, you lose the domains. They should give you like a few notices and reminders and give you at least 30 days to renew it.
If you know you're travelling, do it the day before or the week before or the month even.
When you renew a domain that has months or years left, it won't just add a year from the day you renew it, will add a year to the actual renewal date. You are playing with fire to leave it to the last minute or to rely on somebody reminding you.
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the domains become available to other DNS customers as soon as they drop
DNS does have a grace period as you have discovered
sorry you lost a domain, that sucks.Comment
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