I answered it the second you sent it;-) You haven't responded. our last ICQ convo was you saying you couldn't see what I wrote. lol

Thanks for all the posts.

I agree ADD/ADHD is over-diagnosed, However I believe it is the right diagnosis in my case. I'm not a drug addict, pill head or addicted to anything else. I was prescribed Adderall less than a week ago, and initially it seems to be working. I am focusing better, but am still unorganized -- which is the purpose of my posting this thread;-)

hehe. I knew it. either ICQ is fucked or I need your pills!

I'll email you!

While it is true that it is over prescribed, and some parents use it as a parenting tool, because they are lazy.

In TRUE ADD children this drug is amazing.

I once also thought ADD was complete BS, that is was 100% bad parenting. My youngest child has ADDHD, he is almost only ADD now as he is almost 10 and most of the hyper is growing out of him.

Before the meds, he would have the TV on, 2 or 3 board games out, running inside and out to play, and telling you stories all at the same time. During a story he would lose what he was saying and go on to another story that a key word from the first story keyed in his brain.

It would take him ALL day or longer to complete one word search, now with the meds, he completes each one before even going on to another activity.

There are some BAD medications out there, the doctor first put him on Ritalin, this cured the HD part, as it made him a zombie.
Then we went to adderall, which the doctor increased the dose from small to the perfect amount.
Currently my X has him on Vyvanse, which is cheaper, but I do not think it gives him the exact focusing power.

For the people talking about the children taking Meth.
In true ADD children drugs have the opposite affect.

Give an person from puberty or older adderal it keeps the focus power, but gives you hella energy.

Just my experiences in my life with this drug.

funny how this disease is almost non-existant outside the US...

sure, there are some cases, especially children. but my "ADD" and also my insomnia recently went away almost completely after i finally made a long vacation and nowadays hardly work at all on weekends. you just need to give your brain some time to rest from time to time. taking drugs is not the solution.

food. it all boils down to you are what you eat.

eat properly...reduce stress, enjoy life.


re: adhd

A special restrictive diet may significantly reduce symptoms of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in young children, a new study suggests.

When children between the ages of 4 and 8 were placed on a diet containing no processed foods for five weeks, ADHD symptoms diminished in 78 percent of them. And, when suspected trouble foods were reintroduced into the diet, two-thirds of the children experienced a relapse in symptoms.

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...ay/649603.html

I hear that having a project manager can help with that :winkwink:

ADHD Diet

First, what NOT to eat for TWO WEEKS:

1) NO DAIRY PRODUCTS, especially cow's milk. This is the single most important restriction. Instead try Almond milk, Rice milk, or Better Than Milk. Drink water instead of milk. In fact, drink lots of water. The brain is about 80% water, and increasing your water intake to 7 to 10 glasses per day might be helpful all by itself. Sodas, Gatorade, teas, icees, etc., do not count as water. Water counts as water.

2) NO YELLOW FOODS. Especially Corn or Squash. Bananas are white. Don't eat the peel.

3) NO JUNK FOODS. If it comes in a cellophane wrapper, don't eat it.

4) NO FRUIT JUICES. Too much sugar content. One small glass of apple juice has the sugar content of eight apples. Later on you can have juice, but dilute it with water 50/50.

5) CUT SUGAR INTAKE BY 90%. If you can, cut it down to zero. Sugar is in just about everything, but give it a try. Do your best without going crazy.

6) CUT CHOCOLATE BY 90%. No more than a single piece, once a week.

7) NO NUTRASWEET. None. Period.

8) NO PROCESSED MEATS and NO MSG. Only get meats with labels that say, “Turkey and Water,” etc. If the meat has chemicals listed that you can't pronounce, don't buy it.

9) CUT FRIED FOODS BY 90%.

10) AVOID FOOD COLORINGS WHENEVER POSSIBLE. See if your child is sensitive to any particular colors, such as Reds, Yellows, etc. For now, though, avoid all if possible.

SUMMARY: Just eat foods that God made for a while. Eat like people did in the 1940's. Go to a used book store and get a Betty Crocker's Cook Book for recipe ideas. There really are about 10,000 meals that you CAN eat. Just not much in the way of “fast foods” or “convenience” foods.

http://www.oneaddplace.com/adhd-diet.php

My brother has a Secretary that does his origination and it works great. without her he is lost.

As you already know, I completely agree with this. I have added greek yogurt into my diet recently. If people realized how much just cutting out fructose would do for them....

Sharky, I definitely don't want to get into telling you how to live your life, but as I have always said, beware of these quick solutions. They can come back to haunt you in a myriad of ways. I speak from experience. I was given Paxil in my late 20s. I felt exactly the same as your post reflects, as if I'd found a solution. I eventually learned a much different fate.

sheesh, Americans are true slaves of corporations!

I agree with MaDalton and all those who think that you can deal with it yourself without any bs pills. Spend some time on reading tips and experiences of other people with the same kind of focus and organization issues, analyze yourself and finally train yourself to be better focused and organized! Don't be lazy! In the end this practice will help you solve tons of other problems without those easy solutions that can actually harm you.

Hey don't a few of you guys have medical marijuana cards?

sure do.

weed = pharma amphetamines? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nah, it just made me chuckle. We're all having a jolly time ripping on some guy for taking drugs to help him with "focus" while some of us smoke marijuana "medically" to alleviate... glaucoma?

i believe that weed is very helpful in some cases - like cancer or AIDS. or as pain relieve.

and just fun in other cases :upsidedow

but i gave up many years ago

i smoke weed because i like to get high, simple as that. :thumbsup i did use a valid condition i have to get my weed card.

that being said, i do think there is a lot of value in eating well. many maladies can be averted through eating right.

if i came across as pointing my finger at the op's choice to take adderall, i apologize.

I actually agree with you as I do think that diet has a huge impact on us and can control many "conditions." Most people can't hack it though. Which to me is bizarre because good, healthy food is sooo tasty and I personally can literally feel the differences in when I eat good vs eating garbage.

Yes, the US takes too many pills.

However, that does not mean that the vast majority of these pills don't work and don't improve peoples lives.

At the end of the day, modifying your body chemistry is modifying your body chemistry. You do it with diet. You do it with supplements. You do it be taking extra omega 3 oil or by eating more fruit or brocolli or drinking coffee and so on.

Adderall works. Plain and simple. I work with a lot of phenomenal sales people including business partners. They are ADD as a motherfucker which is why they are great sales people. But they can't track with a conversation for more than 2 seconds and are almost impossible to manage... the only thing they can do approach people and sell. I also see these people when they are on Adderall and they are totally different people. They are focused, they can actually sit down and read a book, they can stay on track when they talk, suddenly they can listen, they can sit and do nothing without having the constant nagging feeling that they always need to be somewhere else doing something else. If you don't like Adderall.. then don't take it. But unless you have a serious issue with ADD, which is basically going to make you unemployable, then you shouldn't have an opinion about it.

Bunch of broke morons on a porn forum talking like you have masters degree's in neurobiology.

Funny how people can be so upset that others finally get their lives back and can start to realize their own potential and are excited about it.

it is a big difference.

it's also against the entire system. where would the average american learn, without going out and finding the information themselves, about food being the starting point?

i'd wager Sharky's physician did not suggest that. no tv commercials advertise that either. in fact, in the bit of googling on this i did, most doctors say food should supplement a medicinal solution for adhd.

Can you crush it and snort it?

Why use Adderal? Just smoke pot.

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;-))

wonder drug! it works on everything!!! :1orglaugh

dyna mo's diet it's pretty much spot on. When I want to be distracted I usually choose to go against that diet.

I was diagnosed at a young age. I have some tips.

- When working on anything, focus on that task only. Close any unnecessary tabs in your browser, put your status to "away" on IM clients, turn phone on silent, etc.
- Unsubscribe from any email newsletters, updates, etc that you never read anyway.
- Remove clutter from your computer desktop and form your actual desk.

Here's a good book to read: http://focusmanifesto.com/

Here is the author's blog: http://zenhabits.net/archives/

Leo just started a course on how to form good habits. About $500 I think. I don't agree with everything he says but overall, pretty solid. Seems like an interesting guy. There is a lot of good literature available on performing good habits though, not quite sure how a $500 course would be worth it but for some it just may be the thing?

sounds like good advices for everyone.

Extended periods of time in front of the PC = ADD and possibly anxiety disorders

I know this will attract haters but hey...

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ex5u9k.jpg

I don't have ADD but used to take 5-50mg/day for a few years. It was great for slamming out 8-hour work dumps. Until it wasn't...

So long as I had my basic work-plan on paper before I took a single pill, things usually went very well. Never had more fun working in my life!

Music blasting, tasks doing themselves, making 50k/mo, in my 20's and full of pharma-grade speed. :winkwink:

Loads of side-effects, especially for non-ADD folk taking higher doses. Very ugly in the end.

Which are the side effects?

Yeah man addrall is the greatest stuff on earth man, i get so much done, and my house has never been cleaner. And the energy! My god the energy! I haven't slept in 12 days! But i'm being so productive! And i've almost solved the jfk assasination plot.


Welp gotta go, gotta fight off the monstrous green squirrels that plague my peripheral vision, yet again.

Typical speed use side-effects: no appetite, stiff jaw, crash afterward, raised heart rate, possibly addiction - depends of the person really but it's quite hard on our systems.

People w/ ADHD typically report fewer side-effects.

is also depression a side effect?

amphetamine psychosis if you speed for 12 months or more, nasty!

Anyway here is the breakdown of my Organise Directory, all your work goes in the INTERNET sub-directory though.


http://hercshome.com/ORGANISE-HEIRARCHY.png


This really helps organise everything!

I took Adderall once because a friend of mine got it prescribed, she told me it was fun and so it was. We partied all night and into the next day, couldn't seem to get drunk no matter how much I drank and I could carry a conversation like a pro. I wonder what other drugs have that effect...?!? Heh, like I said, was fun, don't get me wrong, but I would not take it as a help to ADD or ADHD.

I do, yoga, meditation and plenty of cardio to burn the nervous energy. Also like a few people mentioned here, follow a simple and healthy diet without all the additives, fructose, etc.

Not knocking it Sharky, if it works for you, then go for it but try and figure out other, more natural ways to focus. Maybe do a research while on Adderall lol, should help you focus on finding an answer ;)

Cory, Long time man!

Paxil != Adderall ; plus the whole SSRI issues.

Can you share> ;-) j/K