Based on that quote it seems like a stretch to assume the whole sub group of "something else" to possibly largely consist of vaccinations.
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05-25-2011 05:08 PM
Maybe the whole concept of vaccines and the sense of powerlessness that surrounds it is what is giving off the HEAT?
dyna mo
05-25-2011 05:34 PM
just back from the grocery store, it was plastered outside and in with banners about the new required by law whooping cough vaccine needed for kids to attend school in cali.
ShellyCrash
05-26-2011 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
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just back from the grocery store, it was plastered outside and in with banners about the new required by law whooping cough vaccine needed for kids to attend school in cali.
Whooping cough is a son of a bitch. I had all my vaccines growing up and I still got it. Put me in the hospital alot as a wee one.
ShellyCrash
05-26-2011 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 18164202)
Our immune system needs to learn to fight, so would a Black Belt at Karate have still been any good without any practice fighting? Of course not.
You know how vaccines work, right? A little bit of a dead or weakened virus is introduced into the body so your immune system can, let's say, "learn it's moves" if you will, so if it ever tried to infect you at full strength in the future your immune system can karate chop it the fuck out of there.
I kind of see what you're getting at, but that argument should be applied to the over use of anti bacterials and sanitizers, not vaccines.
Also, like Tiger mentioned already, you're way off on the chicken pox bit. :2 cents:
dyna mo
05-26-2011 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash
(Post 18167900)
Whooping cough is a son of a bitch. I had all my vaccines growing up and I still got it. Put me in the hospital alot as a wee one.
i had no idea it's that big of deal. just struck me as interesting, the vaccine biz tying into grocery stores, i've seen the flu shot signage but never *get your kid's vaccine here*
wehateporn
05-26-2011 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash
(Post 18167913)
You know how vaccines work, right? A little bit of a dead or weakened virus is introduced into the body so your immune system can, let's say, "learn it's moves" if you will, so if it ever tried to infect you at full strength in the future your immune system can karate chop it the fuck out of there.
I kind of see what you're getting at, but that argument should be applied to the over use of anti bacterials and sanitizers, not vaccines.
Also, like Tiger mentioned already, you're way off on the chicken pox bit. :2 cents:
What your immune systems learn from vaccines, is like learning to play soccer on the XBox. You know the basics, but you've never had to do it properly. Like you say, antibiotics are another huge problem in society; they should only be used when they are absolutely essential e.g non-viral pnumonia. It takes 1 year for your body's natural bacteria to recover after a course of antibiotics. There are many people coming down with cancers and illnesses that have been caused by antibiotics but nobody is tracking it, the same as with vaccines. They don't track as it's bad for business! What we don't know won't hurt business
Like I asked Tiger, let me know which part of the chicken pox info you believe is inaccurate. It's something I've been obsessed with researching for many years (after my sister died from a vaccine) so I'd very much like to know if you have found any inaccuracies. :thumbsup
wehateporn
05-26-2011 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
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i had no idea it's that big of deal. just struck me as interesting, the vaccine biz tying into grocery stores, i've seen the flu shot signage but never *get your kid's vaccine here*
My sister is in the states and she's been telling me what it's like in Walmart. She is someone who was previously into vaccines until she started researching, now she's strongly oppossed. She says being in the US listening to all the vaccine propaganda is almost like being in a Sci Fi film.
dyna mo
05-26-2011 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 18168024)
My sister is in the states and she's been telling me what it's like in Walmart. She is someone who was previously into vaccines until she started researching, now she's strongly oppossed. She says being in the US listening to all the vaccine propaganda is almost like being in a Sci Fi film.
i wouldn't go that far, but i don't have kids so i'm not the target consumer.
Barefootsies
05-26-2011 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WarChild
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So most of Europe has HIV? Who exactly directed this? Let me guess, Illuminati?
The only way for vaccination to be to really be the "population control experiment" or whatever other nonsense people are claming is if it's a vast conspiracy that involves pretty much all medical science.
Mulder: I'm the key figure in an ongoing government charade, the plot to conceal the truth about the existence of extraterrestrials. It's a global conspiracy, actually, with key players in the highest levels of power, that reaches down into the lives of every man, woman, and child on this planet, so, of course, no one believes me. I'm an annoyance to my superiors, a joke to my peers. They call me Spooky. Spooky Mulder, whose sister was abducted by aliens when he was just a kid and who now chases after little green men with a badge and a gun, shouting to the heavens or to anyone who will listen that the fix is in, that the sky is falling and when it hits it's gonna be the shit-storm of all time.
:2 cents:
BittieBucks Eric
05-26-2011 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn
(Post 18168024)
My sister is in the states and she's been telling me what it's like in Walmart. She is someone who was previously into vaccines until she started researching, now she's strongly oppossed. She says being in the US listening to all the vaccine propaganda is almost like being in a Sci Fi film.
Yeah, but playing a Youtube researcher doesn't always get you the right result :winkwink:
wehateporn
05-26-2011 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BittieBucks Eric
(Post 18168098)
Yeah, but playing a Youtube researcher doesn't always get you the right result :winkwink:
Absolutely, one has to pick their sources carefully. :thumbsup
I'd recommend Dr Mercola, I've been reading his site for the last 10 years http://www.mercola.com/ and he always seems to be at least 5 years ahead of the game. When you hear something on his site, nobody else knows it, then some years later it's all over the news.
It's also very important for people to learn about the history of the Pharm Industry and to understand the business side, one has to understand the big picture in order to understand what's going on. It's not good enough to read one study which appears to prove a vaccine is safe and effective. A small amount of knowledge is very dangerous. We have to understand that people are trying to make money and balance that into the equation.
I certainly wouldn't trust a company like Bayer with the health of my child; these people are criminals. No matter what studies they show me, by default, I would never trust them.
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05-29-2011 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn
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Absolutely, one has to pick their sources carefully. :thumbsup
I'd recommend Dr Mercola, I've been reading his site for the last 10 years http://www.mercola.com/ and he always seems to be at least 5 years ahead of the game. When you hear something on his site, nobody else knows it, then some years later it's all over the news.
It's also very important for people to learn about the history of the Pharm Industry and to understand the business side, one has to understand the big picture in order to understand what's going on. It's not good enough to read one study which appears to prove a vaccine is safe and effective. A small amount of knowledge is very dangerous. We have to understand that people are trying to make money and balance that into the equation.
I certainly wouldn't trust a company like Bayer with the health of my child; these people are criminals. No matter what studies they show me, by default, I would never trust them.
If this is all true, where are the successful vaccine = autism class action suits?
marlboroack
05-29-2011 03:04 PM
See, people today are not as fucked up as they were when i was a kid.