I just got fucked out of 250$ from Paypal. Read this shit.

[marlboroack]

I just sold some software to a guy in India. He paid using his Paypal account, i saw the cash go in there and i sent him the software and license the following day. Paypal refunded his money after getting the product i sent to him.

Here is the letter from Paypal i got today. All they have to say is sorry.. Fucked up shit dude.
Dear account holder,

Your recent PayPal transaction was declined because you did not have a valid debit or credit card linked to your PayPal account. Or, if you had already attached one, it might have expired.

Simply attach a valid debit or credit card to ensure your future transactions can go through smoothly. In just 3 easy steps, you'll be back to shopping and selling securely conveniently again. So, act now.

The money is not there anymore and i just got fucked. How does it feel? Pretty fucking shitty. It's kinda like i was scammed to some degree with a 3rd party transfer.

[Internet User]

that's what you get for having a not verified account.

serves you right.

[dyna mo]

he disputed the charge? then paypal checks into it and sees your account does not have a debit/credit card, therefore they gave the buyer back his money?

i

[Juicy D. Links]

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1023013

[NaughtyRob]

Paypal sucks so bad I don't even have words to describe it. Ebay and Paypal together have a monopoly in the mainstream arena pretty much.

I wish Google would come up with a Paypal replacement to go along with Google Checkout.

[NETbilling]

That sucks. Let us know if you want to get a merchant account and avoid this kind of thing in the future if you do a fair number of transactions.

[woj]

Might be good to share who it was? so others don't get burned as well?

[Juicy D. Links]

50

[woj]

That sucks. Let us know if you want to get a merchant account and avoid this kind of thing in the future if you do a fair number of transactions.

How does merchant account help with refunds/chargebacks?

[The Apprentice]

that's what you get for having a not verified account.

serves you right.

nobody deserves to be scammed by the crooks at PayPal.

[marlboroack]

How the fuck was i supposed to know? From what i remember i only needed to hook up a credit or debit card if i made purchases with the account. Doesn't have anything to do with people sending me money for the product. This is the 1st time this has ever happened to me. According to him, he sent the money once and i sent the product. He hung up on me when i said send it again cause i didn't get it and i was pissed.

Karma will get both of them. It's not the money that pisses me off, it's the feeling of getting fucked for hard ass work i did and i got nothing in return.

[seeandsee]

fucking gay pal fucking honest people!

[The Apprentice]

50

WOULD YOU STOP WILL ALL THE RACCOONS!!!

wtf is that, John Goodman, lol...

[marlboroack]

That sucks. Let us know if you want to get a merchant account and avoid this kind of thing in the future if you do a fair number of transactions.

I have a netbilling account, according to him most people in India don't have a Credit or Debit card so we used Paypal. I have done past business with this duche head before and everything went smooth. Didn't know i was going to get fucked by both client and affiliate in this transaction! Fuck em fuck em fuck em in the ass.

[woj]

How the fuck was i supposed to know? From what i remember i only needed to hook up a credit or debit card if i made purchases with the account. Doesn't have anything to do with people sending me money for the product. This is the 1st time this has ever happened to me. According to him, he sent the money once and i sent the product. He hung up on me when i said send it again cause i didn't get it and i was pissed.

Karma will get both of them. It's not the money that pisses me off, it's the feeling of getting fucked for hard ass work i did and i got nothing in return.

one upside is that it was some premade software? So you didn't really "lose" anything, except maybe 30 mins of your time to close the deal...
Would have sucked 10x more if the same thing happened after you spent 2 weeks working on some custom solution...

[DWB]

50

You have 2257 on that raccoon?

[The Apprentice]

How does merchant account help with refunds/chargebacks?

you can fight chargebacks with tracking numbers and shit like this.
http://www.paysimple.com/paysimple30...-ACH-or-CC.doc

Debit is the way to go because once it's left, it's GONE.

[marlboroack]

one upside is that it was some premade software? So didn't really "lose" anything, except maybe 30 mins of your time to close the deal...
Would have sucked 10x more if the same thing happened after you spent 2 weeks working on some custom solution...

It was a pain in the ass to create what he wanted then type out how he would install it without allowing me or programmer to access his crap. The whole developmental process took 2 days. I kind of feel like a pissed of chatter who got his account closed without pay in a way.

[marlboroack]

Well nothing to do about it but say fuck them. I'd go back to business but I'm stuck with some Post Affiliate Pro track and linking question and their support doesn't work on Saturday and Sunday. On top of that they are in Canada and tomorrow is a holiday for them. So someone give me something productive to do.

[VikingMan]

Fuck paypal

[The Apprentice]

Well nothing to do about it but say fuck them.

Nothing to do about it, are you kidding?

First, Contact the local authorities.

Next, post his full name (his picture, if you got it) on some review websites with the text:

"STAY AWAY!
ALADDIN HUSSEIN MOHAMED IS A CON ARTIST AND A THIEF!
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS CROOK!"

Then make a post for "free iPads" on LiveWire and put his number on it.

Next you register www.aladdinmohamed.com and create a webpage in his honor.

Sign his email address up to 100 shemale porn mailing lists.

Send his wife a dildo... Send one to his daughter too.

Then you post on every single teen pregnancy forum asking for advice on how to cope after being raped and molested by Mr. Aladdin H. Mohamed in the village of Gahmar.

Finally, you pay a guy in Gahmar $50 to slash Aladdin's tires. If you have more money, just have him shot.


Hope that helped.

[marlboroack]

Fuck paypal

Nice Signature, i hosted and ran PPF (philippinepetfinder) when i was working in Manila. Sold it though.

[NETbilling]

I have a netbilling account, according to him most people in India don't have a Credit or Debit card so we used Paypal. I have done past business with this duche head before and everything went smooth. Didn't know i was going to get fucked by both client and affiliate in this transaction! Fuck em fuck em fuck em in the ass.

I see. I would not deal with people (selling a product) myself that don't have a credit or debit card. That is asking for trouble like this.

[marlboroack]

Contact the local authorities.
Post his full name (plus his picture, if you got it) on some review websites with the text:

"STAY AWAY!
ALADDIN MOHAMED IS A CON ARTIST AND A THIEF!
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS CROOK!"


Then make a post for "free iPads" on LiveWire and put his number on it.

Next you register www.aladdinmohamed.com and create a webpage in his honor.

Then you post on every single teen pregnancy forum asking for advice on how to cope after being raped and molested by Mr. Aladdin J. Mohamed in the village of Gahmar.

Finally, you pay a guy in Gahmar $50 to slash Aladdin's tires. If you have more money, just have him shot.


Hope that helped.

His real name was AISHWARYA AJEET. I won't do anything, I'm to kind and nice. Karma will bite him in the ass, if there is no such thing as Karma. Then he better damn well enjoy his software.

[mightyjoe]

did the Indian guy hit the ISSUE REFUND button?

[harvey]

OK, I have to ask this: are you Jon Clarke? If not, you have the exact same M.O. than him. I mean, exact TO THE A, not a single difference. Even the mind slips, you have the whole package

(and please don't contact me anymore because no, I won't fund any of your projects)

[The Apprentice]

His real name was AISHWARYA AJEET. I won't do anything, I'm to kind and nice. Karma will bite him in the ass, if there is no such thing as Karma. Then he better damn well enjoy his software.

Don't be a bitch, get this mother fucker!
I updated my post after you quoted me.

[marlboroack]

OK, I have to ask this: are you Jon Clarke? If not, you have the exact same M.O. than him. I mean, exact TO THE A, not a single difference. Even the mind slips, you have the whole package

(and please don't contact me anymore because no, I won't fund any of your projects)

No I'm not Jon Clarke. Not sure if that's a compliment or hate hit.

[marlboroack]

Don't be a bitch, get this mother fucker!
I updated my post after you quoted me.

It's nonbusiness like to take action that way. I took action before with a guy in the Philippines who fucked me way bigger than this, i felt really bad afterwards and i swear i wouldn't do it again.

PS. I'll buy your Signature.

[brassmonkey]

ive had paypal chargeback a deal almost 2 years ago

[DBS.US]

Nothing to do about it, are you kidding?

First, Contact the local authorities.

Next, post his full name (his picture, if you got it) on some review websites with the text:

"STAY AWAY!
ALADDIN HUSSEIN MOHAMED IS A CON ARTIST AND A THIEF!
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS CROOK!"

Then make a post for "free iPads" on LiveWire and put his number on it.

Next you register www.aladdinmohamed.com and create a webpage in his honor.

Sign his email address up to 100 shemale porn mailing lists.

Send his wife a dildo... Send one to his daughter too.

Then you post on every single teen pregnancy forum asking for advice on how to cope after being raped and molested by Mr. Aladdin H. Mohamed in the village of Gahmar.

Finally, you pay a guy in Gahmar $50 to slash Aladdin's tires. If you have more money, just have him shot.


Hope that helped.

and that's just on the first day

[marlboroack]

ive had paypal chargeback a deal almost 2 years ago

Did you get fucked?

BRB let me order a few hundred dollars worth of shit on the internet get it then charge back. I'll tell you how it FUCKING goes grr

[brassmonkey]

Did you get fucked?

BRB let me order a few hundred dollars worth of shit on the internet get it then charge back. I'll tell you how it FUCKING goes grr

yes $175

[AnimeFevers]

Fuck paypal, they stole a shit load of money from me in the past, said the money I was getting paid regularly was suspicious.

I used to have a business selling on ebay, made a good income and paypal fucked it up for me.

You sold software to an indian guy, that itself is shady. Be careful dealing with them. Anything over $100 is a no go. There is a reason many online payment services don't accept them.

[marlboroack]

yes $175

Damn Paypal. Damn them.

[marlboroack]

Fuck paypal, they stole a shit load of money from me in the past, said the money I was getting paid regularly was suspicious.

I used to have a business selling on ebay, made a good income and paypal fucked it up for me.

You sold software to an indian guy, that itself is shady. Be careful dealing with them. Anything over $100 is a no go. There is a reason many online payment services don't accept them.

I'm 100% aware of that, but we have done past transactions so i thought he was a good guy. Like i said, i guess I'm to nice.

[DateDoc]

PayPal really likes to take the buyers side but then so does eBay.

[marlboroack]

PayPal really likes to take the buyers side but then so does eBay.

I knew they couldn't survive off their cheap sending fees, that cash just loaded their gas tank for the week. Fuckers

[adultzone]

Good for carders... I guess.

[kristin]

PayPal really likes to take the buyers side but then so does eBay.

They do ... The only way you can save yourself as a seller is with a tracking id. If that's in there and someone refunds, they don't instantly take your money back.

I'm going through a PayPal dispute now, it's a PITA, but I've never lost.

I've called and spoken with someone about how a selle can be more protected and other than the tracking info, there isn't dick they can offer the seller.

[LedZep]

Paypal is a fucking joke and a bunch of thieves. No, they do not protect the sellers one bit. I sold an automated pool cleaning robot for $600, the guy gets it claims it was damaged and Paypal froze the money and refunded it once he gave them a tracking number showing it was returned, only problem is the guy only sent back 1 piece that wasnt even damaged and kept the rest, Paypal didnt give a shit. Another time I sold a diamond ring on Ebay for $1300 a week before Christmas so I could have some extra money to give my kids a good Christmas, on Christmas eve my Paypal account was placed on limited status and I could not access the money. The guy didnt complain, in fact he left good feedback, their reason when I called them was jewelry sales on Ebay are prone to fraud and they held the money for 6 months. They have been hit with class action lawsuits at least twice for pulling the same shit and every time they just settle and keep doing what they are doing. They make tons of money from the interest of putting peoples money 'on hold'.

[CaptainHowdy]

Indeed you've got raccooned ...

[brassmonkey]

PayPal really likes to take the buyers side but then so does eBay.

paypal owns ebay

[Rochard]

How the fuck was i supposed to know? From what i remember i only needed to hook up a credit or debit card if i made purchases with the account. Doesn't have anything to do with people sending me money for the product. This is the 1st time this has ever happened to me. According to him, he sent the money once and i sent the product. He hung up on me when i said send it again cause i didn't get it and i was pissed.

Karma will get both of them. It's not the money that pisses me off, it's the feeling of getting fucked for hard ass work i did and i got nothing in return.

They tell you when you log in. My business card recently expired and they told me I had to renew it.

[marlboroack]

[marlboroack]

They tell you when you log in. My business card recently expired and they told me I had to renew it.

I still don't even see anything..

[SallyRand]

I just sold some software to a guy in India. He paid using his Paypal account, i saw the cash go in there and i sent him the software and license the following day. Paypal refunded his money after getting the product i sent to him.

Here is the letter from Paypal i got today. All they have to say is sorry.. Fucked up shit dude.
Dear account holder,

Your recent PayPal transaction was declined because you did not have a valid debit or credit card linked to your PayPal account. Or, if you had already attached one, it might have expired.

Simply attach a valid debit or credit card to ensure your future transactions can go through smoothly. In just 3 easy steps, you'll be back to shopping and selling securely conveniently again. So, act now.

The money is not there anymore and i just got fucked. How does it feel? Pretty fucking shitty. It's kinda like i was scammed to some degree with a 3rd party transfer.

NO!

Although Paypal SUCKS, Paypal did not fuck you out of one thin dime. YOU fucked YOURSELF out of the money by not staying on your toes and adhereing to the Paypal TOS.

Bet you don't do it again!

And don't do business with Indians through PP as PP in India is all fucked up.

And get rid of Paypal except as a last resort.

[icymelon]

I have a netbilling account, according to him most people in India don't have a Credit or Debit card so we used Paypal. I have done past business with this duche head before and everything went smooth. Didn't know i was going to get fucked by both client and affiliate in this transaction! Fuck em fuck em fuck em in the ass.

did you contact the client to arrange for an alternative payment

[Jakez]

I've had plenty of people buy a script and then chargeback, and there's literally nothing I can do about it because it's intangible goods and my only options in the argument are "proof of shipping" and "I've already refunded the buyer". Fucking bullshit.

[GAMEFINEST]

sorry about that bro