Because the rich are busy making money and the poor are busy bitching about the rich making money.
Why the rich are rich and the poor are poor
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Brilliant!
What about those born into poverty, with almost no chance of getting out? Dad in jail, mom in jail, brothers in jail or dead. 20 years old and doesn't know how to read, etc. How do they get rich?Last edited by J. Falcon; 05-22-2011, 06:11 AM. -
And what about those born into poverty who get out, start working, build and get rich?
See how dumb, vague questions work as a means to replying to someone as if you actually have a valid point?.
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I just heard no one in Portman's family EVER worked. That Portman who married Natalia Vodianova supermodel, told by her directly on TV, like fucking NEVER worked at all.
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It's true. I heard these two old retired guys once, sitting in a coffee shop, both on fixed incomes, talking about how the rich get richer while they worked their hands to the bone their whole lives and have nothing to show for it but arthritis, and the gov't is keeping them down etc.
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by developing and offering a product or service other people value and are willing to pay for.Comment
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Certainly none of us come from the sort of background I'm describing. People have nothing to lose and nothing to live for, you are going to ask them to "develop a skill"? I work 7 days a week and more about 10 - 12 hours a day, but I've never been hungry nor did I have to worry about where my next meal came from. Of course hard work is the only way out, but seriously, some points of views in this thread are naive to say the least.Comment
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quite the generalization. many rich people are rich simply because they were born into the money.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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That isn't really true. There have been plenty of studies saying the exact opposite. About 80% of "rich" people are entrepreneurs/business owners. Trust fund babies aren't that prominent.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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Like a lot of people here, he probably made a good deal of money through very hard work. So, naturally, he thinks people need to stop bitching and work harder, since it is the only proven way to be successful. However, people who are really poor do not have the same opportunities.Comment
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or connections. I think that in the US at least it is more about who you know and the children of the elite are born into a life that has those connections built in. I am not bashing GWB but lets face it, his father had him extremely well connected even though for most of his life he was mediocre and incompetent. He was only able to rise to the position he attained through the connections both financial and political that his family was able to afford him.
There are a few who through hard work and an above average intelligence are able to forge those kind of connections on their own but they are the exception to the rule and not the norm.
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Being rich or poor isn't black and white. The OP is black, you are white. Reality lies somewhere in the middle.Certainly none of us come from the sort of background I'm describing. People have nothing to lose and nothing to live for, you are going to ask them to "develop a skill"? I work 7 days a week and more about 10 - 12 hours a day, but I've never been hungry nor did I have to worry about where my next meal came from. Of course hard work is the only way out, but seriously, some points of views in this thread are naive to say the least.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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People came to this country, with nothing.
They worked hard and did something with their lives, it's hard to have pitty for those that get home from walmart and sit in front of the 42 LCD tv they got from work cheap because of a scratch on it, drink a 6 pack of beer and fall asleep on the couch. Get up in the morning and repeat.Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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That's a cop out. Connections are simply knowing someone and having a relationship. Meet them, find common ground, help them out somehow. Build one connection, more will follow. We live in the Internet age, you can contact almost anyone in the world and many will actually reply.or connections. I think that in the US at least it is more about who you know and the children of the elite are born into a life that has those connections built in. I am not bashing GWB but lets face it, his father had him extremely well connected even though for most of his life he was mediocre and incompetent. He was only able to rise to the position he attained through the connections both financial and political that his family was able to afford him.
There are a few who through hard work and an above average intelligence are able to forge those kind of connections on their own but they are the exception to the rule and not the norm.
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That's middle class and underachieving, not poor.People came to this country, with nothing.
They worked hard and did something with their lives, it's hard to have pitty for those that get home from walmart and sit in front of the 42 LCD tv they got from work cheap because of a scratch on it, drink a 6 pack of beer and fall asleep on the couch. Get up in the morning and repeat.Comment
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sure but they have kids, and those kids are born into it. its not like people just started getting rich in the last 10 years.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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People who work hard are usually too busy with work to make any real money. The trick is to work smarter, not harder.Like a lot of people here, he probably made a good deal of money through very hard work. So, naturally, he thinks people need to stop bitching and work harder, since it is the only proven way to be successful. However, people who are really poor do not have the same opportunities.Whitehat is for chumps
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If you are born in a 1st world country you have every tool to be one of the rich despite your circumstances bar something wrong with your health. You decide whether to work hard at school, you decide whether to learn skills, and ultimately you decide how much energy you will put into achieving the steps in order to become rich.
Most poor people, infact every single poor person I have ever met and known has made the choices to be poor. They decided to waft through school, they decided to take that cruisy no effort job, they decided to drop out of university, they decided to work a 35 hour week and party hard, they decided to post on GFY all day instead of doing any work, they decided to pick up the bottle. We are the product of our choices first before anything else.
So the rich are lucky? Sure some can come into wealth, but its funny that in most cases the harder they work, the luckier they get ;)Last edited by Sausage; 05-22-2011, 07:34 AM.IW
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well, maybe we should establish what is rich..recently being 'rich' was defined has having more than 26 million dollars. to some maybe being rich is making 150k a year? I wouldn't call that rich at all really. i don't think its so cut and dry to be 'rich' as you put it. typically someone has to do *something* that everyone else isn't. you can't do great in school, get a good job and suddenly be rich.If you are born in a 1st world country you have every tool to be one of the rich despite your circumstances bar something wrong with your health. You decide whether to work hard at school, you decide whether to learn skills, and ultimately you decide how much energy you will put into achieving the steps in order to become rich.
Most poor people, infact every single poor person I have ever met and known has made the choices to be poor. They decided to waft through school, they decided to take that cruisy no effort job, they decided to drop out of university, they decided to work a 35 hour week and party hard, they decided to post on GFY all day instead of doing any work, they decided to pick up the bottle. We are the product of our choices first before anything else.
So the rich are lucky? Sure some can come into wealth, but its funny that in most cases the harder they work, the luckier they get ;)Last edited by BlackCrayon; 05-22-2011, 07:44 AM.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Ah yes, the definition of Rich I was working off is different than yours. Though many of my points still stand, people who work themselves into positions that pay that much don't get there by slacking.well, maybe we should establish what is rich..recently being 'rich' was definited has having more than 26 million dollars. to some maybe being rich is making 150k a year? I wouldn't call that rich at all really. i don't think its so cut and dry to be 'rich' as you put it. typically someone has to do *something* that everyone else isn't. you can't do great in school, get a good job and suddenly be rich.IW
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Are we talking about being poor or being lazy? People who are really poor would be lucky to get any job at all. I do agree that in a first world country your chances are of course much higher, but even first world countries have ghettos that nearly impossible get out of.Most poor people, infact every single poor person I have ever met and known has made the choices to be poor. They decided to waft through school, they decided to take that cruisy no effort job, they decided to drop out of university, they decided to work a 35 hour week and party hard
I personally think it's all about your upbringing and the examples people lay out for your as a child. If both your parents are drug addicts, your brothers and your friends all sell drugs, you don't have a change of clothes, you're teeth are yellow cause your parents can't afford fucking toothpaste and your skinny cause they sure as hell can't afford food, do you really think they would even make it through high-school, much less college?Comment
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Assuming all of that is true. How exactly does it defy the initial statement in this thread?I personally think it's all about your upbringing and the examples people lay out for your as a child. If both your parents are drug addicts, your brothers and your friends all sell drugs, you don't have a change of clothes, you're teeth are yellow cause your parents can't afford fucking toothpaste and your skinny cause they sure as hell can't afford food, do you really think they would even make it through high-school, much less college?Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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I wasn't talking about me, I was talking about rich people. I don't have a lot of rich friends, but those who are work very long hours. Actually, they do nothing but work. Not that there's anything wrong with that.Comment
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a cop out really? Then either you and I are talking about two different things or you are deluded or naive. How many CEOs do you think you are going to get to know by sending a couple of e mails or friending them on FB? I am talking about people with real power and huge piles of cash that can take someone under their wing and groom them for the same level of success. Not making a sale or getting a foot in the door. I am speaking specifically about the top 1% here, not the whirlwind of lackeys bobbin knob for their scraps. You know, the rich that ARE getting richer. Prove me wrong by becoming one of them through hard work and networking and I will buy that what I am saying is a cop outThat's a cop out. Connections are simply knowing someone and having a relationship. Meet them, find common ground, help them out somehow. Build one connection, more will follow. We live in the Internet age, you can contact almost anyone in the world and many will actually reply.Comment
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You can certainly tell by reading this who has been and always will be poor..
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according to John McCain being rich means a cool five mil a year income, by that standard are you rich?
edit: You know the funny thing is I do not aspire to be rich nor do I hold people who are wealthy in any special regard. I would be perfectly content if all my needs were met and someday far into the future I could retire without having to be worried about crushing poverty looming over my head.Last edited by spazlabz; 05-22-2011, 08:41 AM.Comment
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