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their advertising rates a super high.. I was going to buy some ad space once and laughed at them when I heard what they wanted. I might as well have just burned the $ instead.
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Many of us still around here worked in adult long before we even posted on this board. I worked in adult for almost 7 years before ever posting here. (97-02). But I will say what Lensman did with this board is true genius. However all these years later it is more of a curse to those of us still here for actual business. I come here daily and learn new things all the time. I guess the trolls are entertainment. Like gerbils keeping the wheels warm and in motion while the rest of us either work or rest. The downside is they think *this* place where we post messages is somehow the core of the adult industry. It's like thinking Myspace is going to get you a record deal with Universal opening up for U2 at Lollapalooza. :1orglaugh |
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Obviously when you know you are wrong you go on the attack and start talking about unrelated things. Lets back that truck up Hoss and start over and have you stick to the subject at hand. Quote:
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That is the only thing I was commenting about. Not that I think gfy represents all of adult, whether or not I get their magazine or wtf Paul thinks. It's pretty fucking simple champ. Explain to me this with out all of your bull shit and spin. WHY DO YOU THINK XBIZ will be one of the last businesses standing and will be so viable? WHY? Unless I am missing something here and you would like to explain it to me, they make money from the adult industry, from readers and people who buy ads from them. If they are one of the last companies standing and all of adult is a ghost town (your words) then that makes no sense. Who is going to be reading their shit and buying ads from them to keep them in business. Balls back in your court Spin master, would love to see you stick to the subject and answer the fucking question, Champ. :thumbsup |
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I know there is a ton of people who don't post here that is in the adult industry. The vast majority of the industry doesn't post here or even read GFY. Thanks for pointing that out captain obvious. No idea where you came to the conclusion that I thought otherwise.... Hoss. Don't forget you are the one that said " all of adult being a ghost town" and I was commenting on that, the entire industry, not GFY. moron. |
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Chief/champ/Hoss reference count in a single post,... four. Posting back to back like a dog with a bone, reinforcing my previous statement. Thank you for proving my point. The pleasure was mine. :pimp |
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Bait the trap, reel will76 in like a fish....
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**throws head back and cackles with insane glee** It just makes me laugh when you lower yourself to "my level". :thumbsup Quote:
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Why is that? Would that be because I asked you if you actually read, or received the XBIZ trade mag? Or because I pointed out your logic, or lack there of, was flawed? Maybe it was that I pointed out many of the companies who advertise in their trade do not have a GFY presence? |
You are right, the future doesn't look too bright for them, but if anything they will probably get bought out, not actually go out of biz...
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Pornless I am suprised by this post. In MY OPINION which is not worth that much. I am pretty sure my post count is below 100 so I qualify for a newbie. I have been EXTREMLEY impressed by how xbiz has Created an industry magazine, then created 2 VERY successful trade shows. Then created the BEST INTERENT related AWARdS show EVER. This last years show was truly Hollywood style. I WAS VERY proud to be at involved in the show and really felt like the Adult INTERENT side of the business had be recognized. I see all the numbers and people say that the adult internet side is dying. But I can tell you for a fact that CCbill will do more processing this year than any year EVER. I don?t know numbers but I would guess that XBIZ will do the Same. So before you decide to count Alex and Moe out it would think twice MY TWO CENTS Ron Cadwell CEO ______________ CCbill.com Cavecreek.com |
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Xbiz people are working hard, the magazine is good.
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There is more to adult than the Internet and video, XBIZ covers them all. As far as an XBIZ poll being the reason .XXX passed, posts on GFY were cited as well. As far as opinions of XBIZ.net and/or XBIZ.com being the polar opposite of GFY, this surprises you?
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Winning an Xbiz award is very good for business. Our sales went up over 200% since we won ours. Customers even told us that they choose us over our competitors because of the Xbiz award. There's even a little something more. If you know that you have a chance of being nominated or winning, it gives you a little personal kick in the butt to try harder in your business and to make your product as good as it can be. An award is a nice target to reach for. |
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You said xbiz was a viable company and would be one of the last ones standing in ADULT. Not on GFY, but all of adult. Why do you keep mentioning that xbiz has a lot of adult advertisers that don't post on GFY. I never said or implied otherwise. I think any idiot would know that is a fact and it has nothing to do with anything here. You are such a little pussy. You make one simple statement on here that xbiz is some great company that is going to out last all of adult, when adult is a ghost town xbiz will still be going strong. I simply said that I disagree and ask you why you think that and you go and get all fucking stupid and out in left field with your responses... by replying back with retarded shit like " but but did you get a copy of the xbiz mag!" and " dumbass not all companies in adult post on GFY". My god you are fucking stupid with those responses as they have nothing to do with anything. Continue to dodge the question and I will continue to point out how you are a fucking idiot until you answer it with some intelligence and not all the pussy footing around, chump. Quote:
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After the way they have acted with the dot xxx stuff I am surprised you people still would want anything that xbiz is apart of. Mark your sales didn't go up because you won an xbiz award. You sales went up, and you happened to win a xbiz award. I can promise you the two events are not related and it was just a coincidence. I am sure there are a 100 other factors that are more likely to have caused your sales to go up. Quote:
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even Nostradamus predicted this
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I can concur what Mark is saying that winning(and even being nominated for a) xbiz award increases your exposure, and leads directly to new sales. While i can't comment on xbiz's financial position, as i am not in the know, i can attest to our successful campaign for AdultCentro in participating in Xbiz advertising, and shows.
As Ron said, Xbiz was created on a blank slate, when Alec had no prior experience of publishing (i know of) and when Xbiz came out i really thought they were crazy trying to compete with AVN, who was #1 by all standards at the time, but i think they have successfully carved a piece of market for themselves. I subscribe and read all xbiz news, because i want to stay on top of what's going on in the industry, and the news that come out of the Xbiz seem to be more up to date then they are from AVN (as far as online is concerned) at the moment. I think having more then 1 Trade magazine/powerhouse is healthy, and is positive for the industry, because it leads to innovation.. we all know what happens when there is a monopoly, as it was defacto with avn/internext, and we saw where that ended up.. they became lazy and stagnant and were in the gutter until Theo and Panos came in to shake things up. So time will tell what will happen with Xbiz, but i think if they were to go out of biz, it would only hurt our industry as a whole, so i won't be rooting for that. |
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Just curious, do you mean CCbill will do more processing overall than any year ever or more processing on the Adult side than any year ever? Just want to be clear on what you meant. Thank you. |
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I'm also curious on how XBIZ will be one of the last adult companies standing when the adult industry is a ghost town. They are a trade publication and trade show company that depends on the health of the industry to survive. If they are one of the 'last viable adult companies left' in this ghost town who is going to be placing the ads in their publications or going to their shows? And it's pretty obvious XBIZ helped to pass .XXX with a bogus poll citing industry wide support. The only question that has yet to be answered (and not denied either) is what does XBIZ and Helmy receive for their support? It's also obvious that The XBIZ awards are one giant circle jerk. 10-20 companies get nominated in a single category. Wonder why? Because if only 3-5 were nominated only 3-5 sites would run the prestigious XBIZ official nominee badge and advertise XBIZ for free. It's one big ass-lick-athon which is fine but let's not go around pretending it's not. |
Any timeline to this prediction?
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I hope not, they seems to be nice people more than avn :)
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What people read on the forums is just a snapshot of whats going on, reading the hardcopy of xbiz every month will educate you a lot more.. Did I mention I'm on the cover of XbizWorld for April? LMAO |
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WTF that matters or has to do with anything I don't know. But like I said, and you said too, they rely ON the adult industry for viewers and advertisers. With out viewers there is no value for the advertisers. And with no viewers and no advertisers (adult is a ghost town) then how in the fuck they going to stay in business much less be one of the last viable companies??? And t hat is the way things are heading right now. If your business model relies on ad dollars from adult companies you in a world of hurt as so many companies are either going out of business or cutting back on expenses. Quote:
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Now all you need to do is fire PaulK for going into clients join forms and single handily changing them for the worse without notification and totally biased as he let other "bigger" clients get away with the same ;) |
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My thinking if 5 years till they're completely gone, hopefully shorter.
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How will XBiz be one of the last viable companies standing when adult is a 'ghost town' in 12-24 months? They are a trade publication and show organizer that depends on the health of the industry to survive. Who's going to buy ad space in their publication or sponsor the shows or attend for that matter? I know it's fun to blindly ass kiss but please tell me what I'm missing. Where will their revenue come from and what do they do besides the trade mag and shows? |
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But seriously, apparently the people who think that bullshit do so because they think Xbiz is "cool" or something. Obviously none of them can give an intelligent reason to explain WHY they think they will still be IN business when everyone else in adult goes OUT of business. |
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