fiddy faces of meth :thumbsup

Brass Monkey.........that funky Monkey
Brass Monkey.........that meth junkie
Teh funky Monkey

http://www.imglols.com/wp-content/ma...-is-normal.jpg

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...4033521117.jpg

ADG

http://www.parentsstopmeth.org/images/hitlerdance.gif

http://www.parentsstopmeth.org/meth_and_hitler.htm

http://books.gigaimg.com/avaxhome/af...af_medium.jpeg

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sd...b469ad7b0.html

hitler forced his troops to do meth. :helpme

Fat gluttonous rich pigs

Where are the feces??

Man those girls look horrible.

look at the one with the hole in her neck :helpme

haha! That was good. :thumbsup

meth will grow hair on your chest

kumari fulbright

technically you ingest things every day that are made with pretty much the same things, acids, bases, basically.

many foods are acidified and basified in the process of manufacture. soaps and detergents, all pharmaceuticals, cloth, building materials, the materials in your car.

you are absorbing far more dangerous chemicals, far more dangerous molecules, than acids and bases on a regular basis. acids and bases are comparitively safe, as chemicals go. yes, they can burn and damage cells in concentration, but other than that they typically are not poisons

and the acids and bases used to make meth aren't typically left in the final product, altho they can be.

you probably don't know it, but you are just repeating a scare argument used by the government to justify the growth of government and the prison industry.

under the trade name desoxyn, meth is an ingrediant in several adhd medications and prescription diet medicine.

in and of itself, meth is just a chemical. the anti meth laws, which keep people from getting treatment for it, and make it profitable to manufacture and sell, are largely what causes the trouble.

but you people get a much bigger thrill out of turning it into a devil, I understand that. you do what the government tells you to do.

huh? :helpme

100% correct.

fire up a 8 ball and come back and tell us how it went. :)

that wasn't a response to you and your fears and beliefs.

at least I don't recall your saying anything essentially meaningless like "because it's made with acids and bases in the process it must be horrible".

your faces of meth photos are cherrypicked ad campaign content and are also essentially meaningless - a classic "before and after" advertising trick.

I haven't researched the provenance of those photos, so don't have any opinion on them other than the observation that before and after photos are usually meaningless. any person can have a pair of photos taken, one that makes them look nice, one that makes them look like shit.

"meth mouth" is a real phenomenon, but would occur far less often if people were able to get treatment and counseling and health advice. The same effect happens with many chemicals and medications - dry mouth allows bacteria to grow.

the same type of argument - that prohibition causes far more harm than the chemical itself - applies to all drugs.

the before im thinking is their first arrest for having drugs and pipes. the after is just them being caught once again and it appears that they have been smoking their share of meth.

advertisers always want you to believe that the before and after represent the benefits or costs of the thing the advertiser is trying to sell you. if you trust government advertisers more than any other "before/after" advertiser, thats your decision to make.

if those photos keep you from taking meth, that's a good thing, I suppose. I personally stopped trusting government advertising long ago.

however, your beliefs and fears will have little to no effect on the criminal marketplace for meth created by prohibition. the faces of meth campaign doesn't seem to have decreased demand.

your fears and government advertising help keep the prison industry going tho, so if you are a big fan of building more prisons and increasing the role of prison in government, there's that.

some lives fuck up for sure.

lets cook some meth! j/k

This thread is not funny...

Also you create methampethamine with phosphorus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phospho..._List_I_status
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus#Precautions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw

This is what happens when you create meth in your kitchen.

Sorry, but meth, when it is abused, is one of the worst drugs out there. To attempt to shrug that campaign off as a scare tactic is frivolous.

Yes, they used the most extreme images, but anyone who has seen a meth head deteriorate in real life knows that those pics are not too far off the mark. When claims are made that meth "rots a person's soul", it is not a far fetched assertion or an exaggeration. The first use in that form hooks the majority of users completely.

Controlled substances that grow naturally do get my support, but it's the significantly processed unregulated drugs that do real damage to the human body.

thing is people will see the pics and will still smoke it. :helpme

almost as bad as carding.

Anyone who uses meth is a piece of shit loser drug addict waste of skin!

I have no sympathy for them, they all made their own choice to do it so now they have to live or die with it.. Fuck em..

They should all be lined up and shot, dump them in acid baths.

Well shit, I'm gonna start cooking tomorrow then.


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Very interesting links, thanks man :thumbsup

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hitler was a chemist

that seems unlikely.

however, if you do, you will realize that the scary stuff you were told was bullshit, and that while meth is made with acids, bases, and solvents, it is not made out of them, nor does it contain them.

any construction site or company contains exactly the same acids, bases, and solvents. painting companies have much worse stuff. and auto finishing and detailing services even worse.

you don't even want to know what you will find at many manufacturing sites or electroplating services, if the stuff they make meth with scares you.

I used to own construction companies and would work with things on a daily basis that could kill you, burn you, or poison you slowly, all just as bad or worse than the relatively mild hydrocloric acid, sodium hydroxide, and petroleum solvents they use in making meth.

now, if you were making the argument that meth cooks don't dispose of their waste chamicals safely, that of course is true.

it's fine with me if you hate meth. you do no harm by hating it, except if you consider the prison industry and drug wars harmful, which as a libertarian, I do.

but, you should base your argument on facts. basing it on foolishness like "it's made with acids, bases, and solvents" will ultimately backfire, because hundreds of thousands of daily use products are made with acids bases and solvents.

once people realize that they were told lies and nonsense, they no longer trust the government spreading thoise lies.

this is why the drug war always fails - people know the government is lying.

once again this is foolish. presumably you didn't read your own link about phossy jaw, which is caused of course by white phosphorus, not the non-toxic red phosphorus which used to be used to make meth.

red phosporus is in the striker on every book of matches. you can eat it, it won't harm you in any quantity you are likely to want to eat. they know kids might chew matchbooks, they have to use a chemical that is close to harmless.

thats just as foolish as saying salt is dangerous because it contains sodium, which explodes when it touches water, and chlorine, which is a poison gas.

http://oehha.ca.gov/public_info/pdf/...39;03'.pdf

I've never heard of a case of phossy jaw caused by making meth.

like I said, it's fine with me if you hate meth, or want to oppose it, you just shouldn't do so with lies. if your argument is sound you shouldn't have to lie or disinform to persuade people.

That sucks. She was looking good back in the day. What a difference.

http://www.horrorphile.net/images/ku...th-addict1.jpg

See that's where you're argument is fatally flawed because I am basing my point of view on facts. I've watched a past beauty queen end up looking like someone's grandma because of it, so your propaganda about the prison industry and drug wars does not apply.

Meth rots the body and breaks down critical systems, leaving the person in what basically amounts to a seriously malnourished state of shock.

THAT is fact. Forget about what it is concocted from and look at the HUMAN effect of this drug.

For anyone to defend meth of all drugs is warped thinking at best. Marijuana or even cocaine is not even in the same category. The shit kills and is one of the most addictive of all street drugs. End of story.

People who use meth justify everything about it. METH is 100% poison

It destroys everyone who uses and abuses it. FACT!

technically it is not addictive at all.

it is habit forming, but it does not cause true addiction in the way that tobacco, alcohol, opiates, barbituates, and many prescription drugs do.

people will choose to take it habitually, because it feels good and it counters the exhaustion that hits them when they stop taking it, but the body doesn't react to not having it the way the body does to truly addictive drugs. there is no withdrawal, no pains, anxiety, delerium tremens, or the other symptoms of addiction.

look it up.

the distinction between addictive and habit forming is presumably lost on you.

as I said, it's fine with me if you hate meth. I see no downside in you hating meth. you have every right to hate meth.

I'm simply opposed to disinformation and lies as government policy.

that distinction is presumably lost on you as well.

so never take any meth

not bad :thumbsup

scary stuff

You use red phosphorus but since white phosporus is an allotrope of white phosphorus, when you heat it you turn a part of your red phosphorus in white phosphoric that is highly toxic.
This is ONE of the problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_phosphorus

"phosphorus can be converted to white phosphorus upon heating to 260 °C, as can be seen when one strikes a match."

believe me i'm better than you in chemistry.


http://www.simple-ways-to-make-metha...th-recipe.html

Meth truly is only habit forming? I'd find that hard to believe. I know from experience that I can smoke mary j all day for years on end and then go to another country for a month and not think about it once. Not a craving, no withdrawl, nothing.

It is just a bad habit, and as Plato once taught me -habits are a problem. I'd find it hard to believe that Meth is the same way, after seeing countless street walking meth heads and plenty of party hardy co conspirators from back in the day. That's not to say it's just a misguided assumption though. So if you take a multi-daily meth user and lock them in a room they won't go batshit crazy like a heroin addict would?

I've also heard that heroin is a "safe" drug etc. Where's the disconnect between safe drug and wasted life drug loser? What's the extra ingredient these people have that makes them race downhill so fast?

PS: Girl in blue dress looks photoshopped. She seriously put on the same dress, and it's STILL CLEAN? c'mon.

drugs are bad m'kay meth smack blow if you choking on the glass dick get some :helpme j/k but weed is just a slower habit forming drug