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Markul · 05-10-2011, 01:08 PM

So I never said I was an SEO expert, not by a long shot - but wtf is going on with Google these days? I can't figure it out anymore.

Here is what has me puzzled...

I have a blog that I update at least 5 times a week, handwritten content and plenty of backlinks. It's down more than 20% in traffic.

Then I have a page... ONE page. One fucking simple HTML page with almost no content and that has had NO updates and no active linkbuilding for well over 2 years.. it's up more than 37%. Not that it gets a lot of traffic (around 5K from SE a month), but still... WHY? WHHHHYYYY!!

96ukssob · 05-10-2011, 01:09 PM

google wants to confuse you so you give up and just by traffic through AdWords

czarina · 05-10-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

google wants to confuse you so you give up and just by traffic through AdWords

in today's day and age, it's actually possible!

chronig · 05-10-2011, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

google wants to confuse you so you give up and just by traffic through AdWords

Markul · 05-10-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

google wants to confuse you so you give up and just by traffic through AdWords

That's not going to happen... ever, so they can try harder those bastards

halfpint · 05-10-2011, 01:24 PM

LOL you are not the only one I have a teen blog all with afflaite content but with my own descriptions and no google analytics it has 100s of out going links compared to in coming links and the traffic has almost doubled since the panda update
I also have a mainstream games site which is all affliate content using the same descriptions as a load of other sites who use the same content. This site has hardly any back links and no google analytics either and the traffic has also gone up on that one as well...the mind boggles lol

TeenCat · 05-10-2011, 01:34 PM

i must say i dont understand google last days too, some sites felt down, doesnt matter how old they was, what type they was, on which host them was, doesnt matter nothing, total mixup, i hope google is just ill a bit ...

Markul · 05-10-2011, 01:39 PM

Yea, also almost all of my sPlogs are up in traffic. That's so tragic..

Tom_PM · 05-10-2011, 01:44 PM

I always feel like behind the scenes after updates they (google) are wondering wtf happened too. Probably half true.

icymelon · 05-10-2011, 02:58 PM

hit me up on icq I have a dozen new sites on google post panda I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing that seems to work

$5 submissions · 05-10-2011, 05:38 PM

http://www.highrevenue.com/seo/bounc...ze-bounce-rate

iwantchixx · 05-10-2011, 06:02 PM

even if its all hand-written, repeated topics among more pages on a single domain can hurt each page's importance as opposed to one page on one topic on the subject

newB · 05-10-2011, 06:11 PM

I hear you.

My site was steadily climbing the SERPs and yesterday it went from page 2 to just plain gone. It hasn't been banned or sandboxed, it's just not ranking for the long tail keyword I had been using to promote it. One minute it was there, the next it was just freaking gone.

It's enough to make me consider splogging.

alias · 05-10-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

google wants to confuse you so you give up and just by traffic through AdWords

candyflip · 05-10-2011, 08:47 PM

I have lost almost 1/2 my blog traffic in the past month. I have a mix of handwritten and spun rss feed posts and I just keep dropping off.

Lost two good placements today. One dropped from #2 to #200 for one of my more solid keywords.

19teenporn · 05-10-2011, 08:55 PM

Hear you, google messed up big time with that panda update...

dynastoned · 05-10-2011, 09:30 PM

on april 2nd a lot of my sites tanked. now about 2 days ago the traffic kicked up on all those sites almost to the exact numbers they were getting before. i don't know what the fuck they are doing.

CyberHustler · 05-10-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Markul

So I never said I was an SEO expert, not by a long shot - but wtf is going on with Google these days? I can't figure it out anymore.

Here is what has me puzzled...

I have a blog that I update at least 5 times a week, handwritten content and plenty of backlinks. It's down more than 20% in traffic.

Then I have a page... ONE page. One fucking simple HTML page with almost no content and that has had NO updates and no active linkbuilding for well over 2 years.. it's up more than 37%. Not that it gets a lot of traffic (around 5K from SE a month), but still... WHY? WHHHHYYYY!!

Why ask why?... Take the fucking hint and build more of the one that's winning.

Markul · 05-10-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedi

Why ask why?... Take the fucking hint and build more of the one that's winning.

lol are you serious? start building single static pages with no real content but a few banners and three paragraphs of text?

And it's not related to bounce rate, the bounce rate on some of the sites that are down is low and the rate on some that are going up is like 80%+

It's pretty strange.

bDok · 05-10-2011, 11:40 PM

google is such a tricky bitch. Drives me nuts. I miss the days of just smashing it with splogs.

jimmycooper · 05-10-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon

hit me up on icq I have a dozen new sites on google post panda I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing that seems to work

ICQ is for fags. Tell us here for free.

Agent 488 · 05-11-2011, 12:27 AM

just checked a bunch of mainstream experiments that i gave up on and they all made huge leaps after panda. weird ...

Internet User · 05-11-2011, 12:37 AM

Google is weeding out small players and boosting big boys.

Makes sense.

Markul · 05-11-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet User

Google is weeding out small players and boosting big boys.

Makes sense.

Still dosen't explain the weird shit that's been happening on my sites

seeandsee · 05-11-2011, 07:13 AM

i think classic HTML pages got somekind of winning from panda, my filling...

Cyndalie · 05-11-2011, 07:16 AM

I disagree with them favoring smaller sites - it's not across the board. Do you have any relevant inbound links pointing to that page from other sites you own or network with?

This shit is really pissing me off. Panda isn't about just optimization. I'm employing some new strategies at this point.

fatfoo · 05-11-2011, 07:27 AM

Google rules about ranking pages are not completely known. These rules change frequently. It's hard to find out the real reason why a page started getting more SEO traffic.

redwhiteandblue · 05-11-2011, 07:41 AM

They seem to be going after people with identifiable networks of similar sites.

Agent 488 · 05-11-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

They seem to be going after people with identifiable networks of similar sites.

going to have to study why mainstream sites i gave up on shot up and after panda and half of my adult sites got nailed hard. obviously doing something wrong.

Markul · 05-11-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie

I disagree with them favoring smaller sites - it's not across the board. Do you have any relevant inbound links pointing to that page from other sites you own or network with?

This shit is really pissing me off. Panda isn't about just optimization. I'm employing some new strategies at this point.

It seems that the top of the pyramid so to say, is getting axed while the bottom is getting a notch up. So the fewer inbound links = better... at least that's how it looks now.

Agent 488 · 05-11-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

It seems that the top of the pyramid so to say, is getting axed while the bottom is getting a notch up. So the fewer inbound links = better... at least that's how it looks now.

def think some links got devalued, some valued more.

none of this bounce rate shit.

Black All Through · 05-11-2011, 09:24 AM

So far this is true and has been put into act but on an experimental level: Panda's aim is to fight against content farms, duplicate content, low quality articles and simply copy and paste the description from other website to their website to increase the search engine rankings.
Panda is at its very early stages, its like the first V2 rockets, aimed at London but splashed down in the sea near Dover time after time.

The main process is to locate websites that are linked on multiple link farms or that spam blogs using keywords that they already rank for or that they are in the process of ranking. Up to this stage they have figured it out and many high ranked websites and blogs have been "pushed back". Google claims they have cleaned up 12% of what they intend to and in majority websites in English and most of all websites hosted in the USA.
If you are a linkwhore, spamwhore or you're simply linked on a dozenish linkfarms you will be affected when Panda rolls out across the world.

We have been taking preventive measures to avoid that our clients see their websites effected and if you know where to put your hands, I suggest you do the same.

Agent 488 · 05-11-2011, 09:28 AM

when the Google Panda update happened Matt Cutts stated "we actually came up with a classifier to say, okay, IRS or Wikipedia or New York Times is over on this side, and the low-quality sites are over on this side."

and on the adult side all the big porn tubes were given google's mysterious "quality" thumbs up.

Markul · 05-11-2011, 09:29 AM

So what are those preventive measures?

CyberHustler · 05-11-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

lol are you serious? start building single static pages with no real content but a few banners and three paragraphs of text?

Um, no my friend...

I think Google might be letting you know what it wants more of and what it doesn't care much for...

My analysis would be maybe you do not NEED to use these bloated codes/scripts to blog hand written content because google seems to love simple static basic html pages better with no duplicates at all.

SEO is obviously not just installing wordpress, writing your own posts saying how cool what porn site your pushing is, and getting tons of backlinks that are probably from other sites that are doing the same exact thing.

Markul · 05-11-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedi

Um, no my friend...

I think Google might be letting you know what it wants more of and what it doesn't care much for...

My analysis would be maybe you do not NEED to use these bloated codes/scripts to blog hand written content because google seems to love simple static basic html pages better with no duplicates at all.

SEO is obviously not just installing wordpress, writing your own posts saying how cool what porn site your pushing is, and getting tons of backlinks that are probably from other sites that are doing the same exact thing.

So what google wants more of, is 100% autogenerated sPlogs that has the same content hat 100000 other sites? The pages I have that are being boosted right now, are almost all pages that has no unique content. Sure some words are spun, but that's hardly anything that would classify it as unique.

But yea, the sPlogs look like simple html pages once they are generated, I'd just not have imagined that Google liked those.

05-10-2011, 01:08 PM	#1
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Black All Through Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: US Posts: 2,078	So far this is true and has been put into act but on an experimental level: Panda's aim is to fight against content farms, duplicate content, low quality articles and simply copy and paste the description from other website to their website to increase the search engine rankings. Panda is at its very early stages, its like the first V2 rockets, aimed at London but splashed down in the sea near Dover time after time. The main process is to locate websites that are linked on multiple link farms or that spam blogs using keywords that they already rank for or that they are in the process of ranking. Up to this stage they have figured it out and many high ranked websites and blogs have been "pushed back". Google claims they have cleaned up 12% of what they intend to and in majority websites in English and most of all websites hosted in the USA. If you are a linkwhore, spamwhore or you're simply linked on a dozenish linkfarms you will be affected when Panda rolls out across the world. We have been taking preventive measures to avoid that our clients see their websites effected and if you know where to put your hands, I suggest you do the same. __________________ I want to buy contextual links on quality blogs For both Adult and mainstream niche - Small to massive packages

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	when the Google Panda update happened Matt Cutts stated "we actually came up with a classifier to say, okay, IRS or Wikipedia or New York Times is over on this side, and the low-quality sites are over on this side." and on the adult side all the big porn tubes were given google's mysterious "quality" thumbs up.

05-11-2011, 09:29 AM	#34
Markul Likes Pie Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn Posts: 12,402	So what are those preventive measures?