no, it's a sex crime. A hate crime is attacking someone based on you hating their kind. So not sure how you have created a separation there...

nobody here is saying they deserve it, you just went down that slippery slope all on your own.

You're all sluts and rape is bad.

Attire does not mitigate the crime, and I dont think anyone but a defense attorney is claiming it would.

ie: to advise "drive defensively" is not to say "otherwise it's your fault".

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So rapists must love those rape victims right? And the victims must love being raped - why else would they walk around trolling like some sort of bait just waiting to be snapped up by the first big fat catfish to swim along... smart enough to jump on that shit... yeah boyeeeeeee....

Rape is a crime of violence and brutality. That makes it a hate crime. You need to get into the 21st century.

all those women who have sex with their students, or anything else going on, aren't actually raping them?

Nor are most of them being charged with rape. Lewd conduct with a minor is related but not the same as rape. Feel free to consult with an attorney if you don't want to take my word for it.

I was under the impression this was statutory rape. Is this not the same as regular old rape. Or rape rape as Whoopi Goldberg would like to say? So if you were raped by your teacher and it wasn't violent that is just lewd and not so much rape?

why would i do that? you said it yourself, 'most', meaning it is rape and the legal mumbo jumbo is moving away from that to confirm a conviction or plea deal.

ok so you're not posting all indiginified about children having 'lewd conduct perpetrated on them' or whatever you're claiming here

what about the bills in the south where rape victims have to report their encounters to the IRS and if the rape victims don't 'fight back' or some legal drivel, they are unable to receive funding for abortions

has that even been mentioned on this board? isn't that better defined as a 'hate crime' or 'hate laws'?

if you'd like to talk to an attorney about that, i'd highly suggest it.

In an ideal world females could wear anything and not have to worry. Since we do not live in a perfect world, some people advise others to err on the side of caution.

if im wearing a shirt that says 'i sell cocaine and have lots of it in my pockets' and some dudes jump me and rob me, i understand that the guys shouldn't have robbed me but i shouldn't have been wearing that shirt

so should the police say 'don't dress like a drug dealer and you won't be treated like one'? of course they should, so what's the difference?

rape is wrong just like mugging someone is wrong but if im walking around with my tits hanging out and my pussy just barely hidden its like me saying 'i have sex for sale and i have tits and a fat juicy pussy right here on me' so yeah you're gonna get raped if the wrong person comes by. is it right? no.

just like you shouldnt walk around with the i have cocaine in my pocket shirt you shouldn't walk around looking like a whore or you may draw unwanted attention

Go look up what is meant by "statutory" and then we can talk. Very different in the eyes of the law which is why there is a way to segregate them accordingly in order to pass reasonable judgement and assess punishments with respect to the crime.

ie, 'impossible to rape a man' or in this case, boy

gotcha.

Thx for the info. ADG! Guess I need to head downtown tomorrow evening!

Hopefully the SF one will happen close or on top of my show in late June in SF.

You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about so don't pretend to have a clue what I am talking about.

Thats funny!

'Originally Posted by _Richard_ View Post
all those women who have sex with their students, or anything else going on, aren't actually raping them?
Originally Posted by _Far-L_ View Post
Nor are most of them being charged with rape. Lewd conduct with a minor is related but not the same as rape. Feel free to consult with an attorney if you don't want to take my word for it.'

i am sorry if i have misunderstood your meaning here.

it appears you're not really following what you yourself are saying, so no, i obviously have no clue at all.

Then allow me to clarify...

Most of those students are consensually having sex but the fact that they are not of an age to legally have the right to consent without the permission of an adult parent and/or guardian makes the difference. Big difference than someone who at any age or time or place is not consenting to any sexual conduct and being forced or coerced mentally, emotionally, or physically...

Get it now?

Now go back to being the Lone Ranger on the Booger Patrol and stop trying to mince words with me just to impress your minions. The more you try to flip what I am saying around the more you look like a sniveling little snipe with a keyboard to wield and a screen to hide behind.

Gonna try and score on a little of that sweet Tejas slut action, eh? :winkwink:

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you just said it again!

fmi, what state allows the right to give permission for minors to screw people in authority?

cause that's pretty fucked up

Then why do they call it rape? Why don't they just call it Statutory Sexy Time? Or Statutory "not really but we are still gonna call it" Rape.

We want to live in a society where the police decide how we can dress?

Not as a Muslim, not as sexy girl, not as a "drug dealer", don't dress black in a white area, don't dress white in a black one ?

Stop and Search statistics point to how many young Asians and Black refuse to take police advice to dress white.

Yes we should all dress in suits, after all thats what the biggest criminals wear.

BINGO! :thumbsup

Stupid is as stupid does momma always used to say.

Of course it is a form of rape if an adult takes advantage of a minor. Do you and goofball think I am saying differently?

Why?

You are both too ridiculously over-zealously trying to twist what I am saying into something else and completely missing the point.

Statutory rape is obviously still a form of rape in the eyes of most western cultures. Now why don't you both move to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan where rape is a woman's fault and families can kill their dirty little whore daughters for deserving it and costing families their honor.
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bingo what?

this is what she said:

"Most of those students are consensually having sex but the fact that they are not of an age to legally have the right to consent without the permission of an adult parent and/or guardian makes the difference."

which is quite clearly trivializing the definition of rape, and blaming the victim.

keep in mind she is just now admitting that this is in fact rape, although it is not brutal nor violent.

and i'm not entirely sure what your deal is, but why you have reverted to third grade insults is confusing.

Heads up: "she" is actually a male castrated by political correctness.

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err my bad.. assumptions about the 'inner slut' reference i suppose

anyway, i won't stand for being called the lone ranger on a booger patrol.

won't stand i say.

Yeah... politically correct... I am in the porn industry. You forget your common sense on the way to work today?

but thanks for posting my pic - that makes me feel like you really care.

I do care.

Well... no... you are actually making assumptions and drawing irreverent conclusions not based on what is being said, unfortunately. The law defines that type of "rape" differently for good reason but not at the expense of someone still being considered victimized. So, yes, we can all agree that it is a form of "rape" but clearly it is not the same as forced sex. Either way, this is not about whether or not that person is a victim, which I clearly agree that he or she is, so stop trying to paint it any differently. This is about society thinking some people "deserve" it.

What is your point anyway?

I admit this is a subject I am very sensitive about so sorry for coming off angry about it but seriously, what are you trying to prove? If I didn't know any better I would've guessed will76 was writing your material.

I'm not interested in discussing this with you.

Note: You should not take this as an invitation to ICQ me with a bunch of bullshit like you did last time.

I'm not a slut,I'm just popular

it's considered rape because it's considered an abuse of power. the threat in this case is not a threat of force or violence, its a threat of loss of priviledge or access or rights.

arguably things like teacher student sex involves a number of other complex issues, such as the ownership of children by their parents, making it a property crime as well. our society has a number of odd moral beliefs that have traditionally been applied to rape, usually in the property crime area. Therefore, rape of a married woman has in he past been considered a property crime against the husband, rape of an unmarried woman a property crime against the father. But except for children, the property crime model of rape is considered obsolete now.

Far-L technically is incorrect legally calling rape a hate crime, most rape is considered a violent crime.

Hate crimes have specific meanings - for example, so-called "corrective rape" does technically fit the definition of a hate crime.

However, arguably many rapes, such as the digital rape of Lara Logan in egypt, fits the model of a hate crime. As do many military rapes, and rape murders.

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Since I had not seen that term before I will paste the definition for others:

Corrective rape is a criminal practice, whereby homosexual individuals, both lesbian women and gay men, are raped by persons of the opposite sex, sometimes under supervision by members of their families or local communities, purportedly as a means of "curing" them of their sexual orientation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape

Slut is such a hateful word. No one is really a slut. It's just a pathetic, jealous or puritanical person venting their frustration onto someone that is exhibiting normal human behavior.

I may use these terms when I make adult blogs but I realize they are not acceptable in normal speech.

Thank you. I do stand corrected and appreciate your explanation. I just hope the peanut gallery can bow to its wisdom and we can all agree....

rape is bad and no one "deserves" it.

nope. next question, please.

nope. cause comments cannot prevent rape.
next question please.

ok, got it.
you're not even trying to have an actual conversation here.
i can move along.

maybe not to you or i, but in SOMEONE'S eye's she damn sure does.
see where im going here?

scaaaaaary little path you're walkin dude.

well yeah.
that's like smokescreen 101.

that's what you do when deep in your heart, you know you're full of shit.
you twist the subject.

notice how yall aint even talkin bout the same thing anymore?

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the point you're missing is that EVERY female on the planet has "lots of cocaine in their pockets" and every one knows it no matter how they dress.

huh? she is making assumptions, i inquired about it.

riiiiight

my point is your point about 'society thinking they deserve it' is hilarious while you try to explain that statutory rape isn't really rape and those victims 'wanted it' or better known as 'deserving it'

the IRS will still be auditing rape victims.. that still is the big missed point in this huge mess, rather than stupid peoples opinions.