riddle me this... join submits

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  • JohnRingo
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2010
    • 673

    #1

    riddle me this... join submits

    how do i have join submits in NATS and no sales?
  • epitome
    So Fucking Lame
    • Jun 2009
    • 12156

    #2
    It means someone tried to join but was rejected. Lack of funds, incorrect card number, name not matching and many more reasons.

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    • JohnRingo
      So Fucking Banned
      • Oct 2010
      • 673

      #3
      Fucking losers

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      • Arton
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2011
        • 270

        #4
        Also some of this form submit are from spam bots, its happens in one sponsors I have much more joins submits than join hits
        No Url

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        • IllTestYourGirls
          Ah My Balls
          • Feb 2007
          • 14311

          #5
          I have some sponsors with a ton of submits and few sales.

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          • BIGTYMER
            Junior Achiever
            • Nov 2004
            • 17066

            #6
            They changed their mind.

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            • gleem
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2001
              • 5593

              #7
              No, with NATS people & surfers & bots type in garbage just to see the credit card input page, or never had any intention of inputting a credit card.. When you don't mention the price on the tour the join submits to joins ratio go up alot.




              Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

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              • iSpyCams
                Amateur Gynecologist
                • May 2009
                • 4436

                #8
                Originally posted by gleem
                No, with NATS people & surfers & bots type in garbage just to see the credit card input page, or never had any intention of inputting a credit card.. When you don't mention the price on the tour the join submits to joins ratio go up alot.
                This. Join submit is basically an email submit, no payment information. A lot of people feel they can get more joins if they don't mention the price till the second page, and I tend to agree, however it also dramatically increases join submits by people who are never going to buy anything, ever.
                - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                • IllTestYourGirls
                  Ah My Balls
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 14311

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gleem
                  No, with NATS people & surfers & bots type in garbage just to see the credit card input page, or never had any intention of inputting a credit card.. When you don't mention the price on the tour the join submits to joins ratio go up alot.

                  Is this the page they count as "join submits" or the next one after the surfer fills out their usename/pass?

                  http://www2.yourgirlfriends.com/sign...ep=2&qualify=1

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                  • Supz
                    Arthur Flegenheimer
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 11057

                    #10
                    Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                    Is this the page they count as "join submits" or the next one after the surfer fills out their usename/pass?

                    http://www2.yourgirlfriends.com/sign...ep=2&qualify=1
                    This one, but what he is trying to say, a lot of programs dont have the dollar amount on this page. Just room for username, password email etc. Then it takes them to another page with CC information.


                    Which would look more like this (just came upon this yesterday when going over the domains for sale thread)

                    http://boobs.com/join.php

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                    • JohnRingo
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 673

                      #11
                      so basically... email on the page but no price...

                      means they are skimming emails and screwing you out of a sale

                      dirtballs in porn? no way!

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                      • porno jew
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 10166

                        #12
                        no retard. most people do what i do and type in [email protected] just to see the price (and cross sales).

                        but keep at it and you can break 300 next month.

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                        • porno jew
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 10166

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JohnRingo
                          so basically... email on the page but no price...

                          means they are skimming emails and screwing you out of a sale

                          dirtballs in porn? no way!
                          btw how come on your sites you don't link to the paysite you grabbed your content from, just use it to upsell penis shit and cams? you would make more than 250 a month if you did so.

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                          • JohnRingo
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 673

                            #14
                            Originally posted by porno jew
                            btw how come on your sites you don't link to the paysite you grabbed your content from, just use it to upsell penis shit and cams? you would make more than 250 a month if you did so.
                            Every post I have links to the sponsor in a very effective way. Much better ctr on the post themselves than from the sidebar.

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                            • JohnRingo
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 673

                              #15
                              Originally posted by porno jew
                              btw how come on your sites you don't link to the paysite you grabbed your content from, just use it to upsell penis shit and cams? you would make more than 250 a month if you did so.
                              Yeah ok. Not every internet user is savvy. I would say the most savvy are just stealing ur content from torrents or watching it on illegal tubes.

                              So I'm betting there are more than a few that use their real email address. And If u aren't following up with those emails u are the retard.

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                              • porno jew
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 10166

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JohnRingo
                                Every post I have links to the sponsor in a very effective way. Much better ctr on the post themselves than from the sidebar.
                                i looked at your site and could see no sponsor links. i could be wrong.

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                                • JohnRingo
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Oct 2010
                                  • 673

                                  #17
                                  Yeah. U r wrong. They are all there

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                                  • signupdamnit
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2007
                                    • 6697

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pompousjohn
                                    This. Join submit is basically an email submit, no payment information. A lot of people feel they can get more joins if they don't mention the price till the second page, and I tend to agree, however it also dramatically increases join submits by people who are never going to buy anything, ever.
                                    It also allows the sponsor to build a database of emails to use to try to sell memberships later. Or in some cases to push other programs. Guess what the affiliate usually gets for this? If I were an unscrupulous sponsor I might even rig it so any affiliate sent join is automatically declined 9/10 times. Then instantly (or an hour after the affiliate cookie expires if with the same processor) send an email using another processor and offer them a $5 discount for the inconvenience. This way you cut out the affiliate who originally sent you that join and even with the $5 discount you still come out ahead.

                                    Affiliates need to be vigilant and check their sponsors for these things. Sign up a new fake email address to one of these forms and see what gets sent to you. You may be surprised.

                                    Cardinal rule: If I'm not making money from my traffic my sponsors shouldn't either!
                                    Last edited by signupdamnit; 11-05-2011, 09:41 AM.

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