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Paul Markham 05-06-2011 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18113783)
id like to hear the response of some old timers that jumped ship back in the TGP days thinking adult was over and compare that to everyone now.

I really started promoting adult more when TGPs were getting popular, so to me, tubes are just nothing more than something that was bound to happen sooner or later
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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18113828)
Tubes didnt happen in a vacuum though.
1 free pic, 10 free pics, 20 free hardcore pics in high resolution. 1 free clip, 3 free clips, 3 free hardcore clips with maximum 2 links off the page. 1 minute clips in shitty flash, 1 hour movies in shitty flash with popups.. and whats tomorrow? 1080p 3D with commercial breaks and optional commentary?
Agreed. Everyone thought TGPs were the end game, until Tubes sprang up. What will be next is the big question. The answer will be less sales. Unless someone can come up with something very innovative. And that's unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18113859)
This shit about tubes and especially you Paul are getting old as hell. Face fucking facts: you didnt adapt your out of the game, and your crying over spilt milk is pathetic.
I've adapted far more in porn than you ever will, because the doors are closing for you.

TheDoc 05-06-2011 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18115095)
I've adapted far more in porn than you ever will, because the doors are closing for you.
I would love to see your list of things you've done to adapt.....

Paul Markham 05-06-2011 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18114131)
Even if it was end-game what are you prepared to do about it? :1orglaugh :)

Besides, the real threat are forums like pornbb, realraptalk, planetsuzy, etc, etc.

They have countless paysite member areas ripped, sometimes in HD, available for download. The amount of traffic they get combined is staggering, and so is the rate at-which they're growing. Wait until it gets mainstream like torrents.

A tube site riddled with ads, low quality, blurry video that has to buffer every 20 seconds in disorganized categories is yesterday's threat to this industry. :upsidedow A forum with 500,000 users sharing full length videos for download is what should scare you.

I could buy a $9 hotfile account and download $5,000 worth of porn in 1 hour using a download manager, faster than I would be able to if I actually bought memberships. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, PAUL MARKHAM
Yes free porn is the real threat. Tubes are easy and legal and only part of the problem.

And yet the industry carries on trying to sell the same thing it sold in 1998. Just bigger and HD. :Oh crap

Like Choker the amount of adaptation going on is pitiful.

If I were 45 and still had the studio and my money to make, I would be adapting. Maybe to live porn, maybe to shooting weddings. I WOULD NOT be still selling pre recorded porn. That's a mugs game for those stuck in the past.

Put that in you pipe and smoke it Choker. :1orglaugh

goldassets 05-06-2011 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 18114102)
Only a sucker pays for porn.
thanks for paying then surfer.

Jakez 05-06-2011 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18113311)
why start a new thread?

is it becase mine was doing well so you thought it may be a good reason to do one?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1021006
He doesn't do one, he makes a couple tube and free porn threads every week. Saying the same old thing, yet he's never ran a tube or dealt with anything he talks about and basically has no clue how the internet works in general. He doesn't post threads discussing content producing or selling, stuff he knows about. He doesn't have to deal with the state of the industry or anything because he is retired mostly from his workings offline. Leaving many to wonder why he even uses the internet? Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

DWB 05-06-2011 05:01 PM
Why only give it away when you can PAY surfers to watch it? You'll make so much money you won't know what to do with it.

It will be like 1998 all over again.

Choker 05-06-2011 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18115095)
I've adapted far more in porn than you ever will, because the doors are closing for you.
I prolly paid twice as much in taxes than you made last year. I bust my ass 12 to 15 hours a day 7 days a week. And I adapt FAST. You find it so hard to believe that many people are not only making money, they are making more than ever before, because you are a single minded idiot. You think this "industry" is restricted to selling porn paysite memberships? Because nobody is buying your shitty ass content you think the "industry" is dead? You are by far the biggest idiot on this board.

Seth Manson 05-06-2011 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 18114268)
Personally I convert mainstream niches from LEGAL tubes as 1:2500 and fetish niches as 1:90. These ratios are absolutely ok with me.
Those ratios would cause me to have a panic attack.

Paul Markham 05-06-2011 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18115591)
I prolly paid twice as much in taxes than you made last year. I bust my ass 12 to 15 hours a day 7 days a week. And I adapt FAST. You find it so hard to believe that many people are not only making money, they are making more than ever before, because you are a single minded idiot. You think this "industry" is restricted to selling porn paysite memberships? Because nobody is buying your shitty ass content you think the "industry" is dead? You are by far the biggest idiot on this board.
You probably did. I don't pay taxes. I'm retired. :1orglaugh

I made enough money working 4-5 hours a day, 5 days a week to earn a living. And that was a busy week. :thumbsup

As for adaptation read this. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18115792&postcount=149

As for finding it hard to believe people don't make money online. Where did you read that? I never said it, so you must be wrong. I said "Porn doesn't make the money it used to."

No doubt a lot of Ma & Pa ops make a living and one or three make a very good living. Do they make the money the porn moguls made in the past? Not even in the same ball park.

The online porn industry it all about selling memberships. Unless there's income coming from somewhere else online. I really don't understand that part of your post. Without memberships to paysites, Cam or Dating, where beside pills is money coming into online porn?

From there on your post got more and more stupid.

bjlover 05-07-2011 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18115804)
You probably did. I don't pay taxes. I'm retired. :1orglaugh

I made enough money working 4-5 hours a day, 5 days a week to earn a living. And that was a busy week. :thumbsup

As for adaptation read this. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18115792&postcount=149

As for finding it hard to believe people don't make money online. Where did you read that? I never said it, so you must be wrong. I said "Porn doesn't make the money it used to."

No doubt a lot of Ma & Pa ops make a living and one or three make a very good living. Do they make the money the porn moguls made in the past? Not even in the same ball park.

The online porn industry it all about selling memberships. Unless there's income coming from somewhere else online. I really don't understand that part of your post. Without memberships to paysites, Cam or Dating, where beside pills is money coming into online porn?

From there on your post got more and more stupid.

I guess your definition of enough money is being broke, with no business and with no life outside webmaster forums.

You have zero life apart from forums, you post from morning till night the same old shit all day

You cant accept that you didn't make money and now you are so bitter you do NOTHING at all apart from post all day every day on adult forums.

If it wasn't so fucking tragic and sad it would be funny.

You REALLY need to move on with your life. Watching you having a serious mental breakdown was funny for about a year, now it is seriously tragic.

Do you seriously have nothing else in your life? Can't you find a hobby or anything to do in your so called retirement. You are so very bitter and sad I feel sorry for you.

:Oh crap

JFK 05-07-2011 03:15 AM
Fitty end games:pimp

Jack Sparrow 05-07-2011 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18115591)
I prolly paid twice as much in taxes than you made last year. I bust my ass 12 to 15 hours a day 7 days a week. And I adapt FAST. You find it so hard to believe that many people are not only making money, they are making more than ever before, because you are a single minded idiot. You think this "industry" is restricted to selling porn paysite memberships? Because nobody is buying your shitty ass content you think the "industry" is dead? You are by far the biggest idiot on this board.
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18113859)
This shit about tubes and especially you Paul are getting old as hell. Face fucking facts: you didnt adapt your out of the game, and your crying over spilt milk is pathetic.
Its hard for me to admit. But damn, i agree with choker on this one.

Paul, if you where that successfull, and you are retired, and you have a nice girlfriend:

Why on earth do you spend your time making a fuzz on the interwebs complaining about free porn? I dont get it, it doesnt make any sense. You are rich no? Then get on your fucking boat and sail the world, make something out of it.

From what i can read between the lines, your not that rich and you are frustrated you arent making money anymore. Did the bankaccount hit rockbottom? Cant pay for the big house anymore? Getting worried? Because from all this fuzz you are making, thats what it sounds like.

RadicalSights 05-07-2011 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18115591)
I bust my ass 12 to 15 hours a day 7 days a week.
sounds like a pretty shitty existence :Oh crap

Jack Sparrow 05-07-2011 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 18115959)
sounds like a pretty shitty existence :Oh crap
Im doing the same thing and i dont mind either.
If its making you more then a regular job why would you mind cashing in while you can now.

TheDoc 05-07-2011 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 18115959)
sounds like a pretty shitty existence :Oh crap
That depends, if you totally enjoy doing what you do... I love working online, it doesn't feel like work at all.

I'm addicted to learning, or rather addicted to the information. I can't be at a normal job and think, wow my damn phone just broke let's go figure out what's up, get the schematics from some other geek, watch a video on your problem, another one on how to correct it, do it yourself and record it, put it online, and make some money from it...because it took all freaking day. That's just one thing and it rocks! I can't stop from not wanting to do, do it all - learn it all, as much as I can, all the time!

It's an addiction that I enjoy :)

RadicalSights 05-07-2011 05:26 AM
Working 15 hours a day is waking up working from 6am until 9pm at night. 7 days a week?

Anyone who does this cannot have a girlfriend or any kind of life beyond sitting in front of the computer. That's insanity.

I am done working at 4pm... fuck that. 8-10 hours is more than enough work in a day.

Work to live.. not live to work.

just a punk 05-07-2011 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 18116013)
Work to live.. not live to work.
Quoted for truth.

TheDoc 05-07-2011 08:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 18116013)
Working 15 hours a day is waking up working from 6am until 9pm at night. 7 days a week?

Anyone who does this cannot have a girlfriend or any kind of life beyond sitting in front of the computer. That's insanity.

I am done working at 4pm... fuck that. 8-10 hours is more than enough work in a day.

Work to live.. not live to work.
I don't normally do real work on the weekends, if so it's just in the mornings. I have kids, so the cycle I have is set by them, I just happen to wake up a few hours before them and tend to work after they go to bed for a bit. And it's not always full speed ahead, like right now I'm posting on gfy...

Plenty of hours left over to live life to the fullest... today we have a kids costume b-day party, last weekend it was rock climbing, then the sports/school stuff, then in a month the kids go on a separate vacation for a month, and we head off to the islands.

And I still have plenty of time to get bored.

Paul Markham 05-07-2011 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bjlover (Post 18115883)
I guess your definition of enough money is being broke, with no business and with no life outside webmaster forums.

You have zero life apart from forums, you post from morning till night the same old shit all day

You cant accept that you didn't make money and now you are so bitter you do NOTHING at all apart from post all day every day on adult forums.

If it wasn't so fucking tragic and sad it would be funny.

You REALLY need to move on with your life. Watching you having a serious mental breakdown was funny for about a year, now it is seriously tragic.

Do you seriously have nothing else in your life? Can't you find a hobby or anything to do in your so called retirement. You are so very bitter and sad I feel sorry for you.

:Oh crap
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Paul Markham 05-07-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RadicalSights (Post 18116013)
Working 15 hours a day is waking up working from 6am until 9pm at night. 7 days a week?

Anyone who does this cannot have a girlfriend or any kind of life beyond sitting in front of the computer. That's insanity.

I am done working at 4pm... fuck that. 8-10 hours is more than enough work in a day.

Work to live.. not live to work.
I was once told. "If you can't do it normally in 8 hours, you're doing something very very wrong."

Since I left working in a job where I clocked in, around 1975. I've rarely put in more than 8 hours a day. Norm was 6.

Jack Sparrow do a search and see when I post and the gaps between posting. Unlike you once I've posted, I'm off to do other things. Take the dog for a walk, train the dog, sit in the garden, sunbathe now it's warm, read a book, do a jigsaw, cook, watch TV (mind you day time TV sucks except for the History Channels and Nat Geo) or go to the village with Rajah and have a coffee.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/mouthtofeed1.jpg

The big house is bought and paid for a long time ago, it's not that big actually. The bills are minimal and the sites still make more than they cost. Plus my pensions. :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 05-07-2011 01:36 PM
Looks like it's an end game until the next game ender comes along ...

CamsMaster 05-07-2011 03:14 PM
times are changing... for all of us, some of us get old... we need to keep up with the new stuff... if we don't we go down :D


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