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  • d-null
    . . .
    • Apr 2007
    • 13724

    #1

    should homeland security have instant access to all facebook data?

    Do you think that in the interest of national security, Homeland Security should have instant backdoor access to all Facebook data, including all private and password protected data?

    curious what the opinions on this are and about digital information in general (cellular calls, texts, emails, etc.)
    40
    I'm not doing anything wrong, of course they should have access to everything, doesn't bother me
    0%
    2
    Facebook is evil, I have no Facebook and it serves people right if they post their info
    0%
    8
    They should only have access if they get a search warrant from a judge
    0%
    10
    George Orwell warned of something like this, it will happen and it will only get worse
    0%
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  • Coup
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    • Apr 2010
    • 9931

    #2
    yes

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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #3
      assange says they already have backdoors into facebook/google.

      http://rt.com/news/wikileaks-revelat...nge-interview/

      i believe him.

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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #4
        The government should not have 'instant access' to shit. FB or anything else owned by a private corporation. This is not Nazi Germany.
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        • marlboroack
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2010
          • 9327

          #5
          I think they are all fucking stupid and create way to much drama. I couldn't find that on the Poll opions or anything close to it.

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          • brassmonkey
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            • Sep 2005
            • 77397

            #6
            sure i don't use facebook hahaha!!
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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #7
              RT: And social networking, what role, do you think, sites like Facebook and Twitter, have played in the revolutions in the Middle East? How easy, would you say, is it to manipulate media like that?
              JA: Facebook in particular is the most appalling spying machine that has ever been invented. Here we have the world’s most comprehensive database about people, their relationships, their names, their addresses, their locations and the communications with each other, their relatives, all sitting within the United States, all accessible to US intelligence. Facebook, Google, Yahoo – all these major US organizations have built-in interfaces for US intelligence. It’s not a matter of serving a subpoena. They have an interface that they have developed for US intelligence to use.
              Now, is it the case that Facebook is actually run by US intelligence? No, it’s not like that. It’s simply that US intelligence is able to bring to bear legal and political pressure on them. And it’s costly for them to hand out records one by one, so they have automated the process. Everyone should understand that when they add their friends to Facebook, they are doing free work for United States intelligence agencies in building this database for them.

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              • woj
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                • Jul 2002
                • 47882

                #8
                If someone has evil intents, I doubt they would hang out on facebook of all places...
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                • Agent 488
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 22511

                  #9
                  Originally posted by woj
                  If someone has evil intents, I doubt they would hang out on facebook of all places...
                  you'd be surprised. pedo groups get busted regularly, human traffickers, shit i know people who slang dope on there ...

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                  • woj
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 47882

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Agent 488
                    you'd be surprised. pedo groups get busted regularly, human traffickers, shit i know people who slang dope on there ...
                    those are just amateur idiots, I really doubt any serious "homeland security" type criminals would hang out on there... but I guess who knows, I might be giving people too much credit, criminals might actually be THAT stupid....
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                    • Seth Manson
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 3988

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                      The government should not have 'instant access' to shit. FB or anything else owned by a private corporation. This is not Nazi Germany.
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                      • epass007
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 77

                        #12
                        account closed

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                        • moeloubani
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 4235

                          #13
                          im sure they already have something like this

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                          • Emil
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                            • Feb 2007
                            • 5658

                            #14
                            Very scary. Good thing I dont use FB.
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                            • lagcam
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                              • Jul 2007
                              • 2890

                              #15
                              Yes, but I don't use facebook so it's not really up to me to decide.
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                              • Seth Manson
                                Please dont fuck animals
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 3988

                                #16
                                I'm not worried. They can check out how often I play Backyard Monsters if they want to.

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                                • MaDalton
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 39861

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  The government should not have 'instant access' to shit. FB or anything else owned by a private corporation. This is not Nazi Germany.
                                  but it's for your safety and if you don't do anything illegal you should have nothing to hide
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                                  • u-Bob
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                                    • Jul 2005
                                    • 33063

                                    #18
                                    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

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                                    • u-Bob
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                                      • Jul 2005
                                      • 33063

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by woj
                                      If someone has evil intents, I doubt they would hang out on facebook of all places...
                                      Government agencies don't want xs to fb data to catch terrorists, but to locate hidden assets, find more info about possible tax evaders,...

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                                      • wehateporn
                                        Promoting Debate on GFY
                                        • Apr 2007
                                        • 27176

                                        #20
                                        This is the reason why Facebook is here today, this is why the CIA investment firm moved in and made them big

                                        Last edited by wehateporn; 05-06-2011, 02:38 AM.

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                                        • seeandsee
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                                          • Mar 2006
                                          • 50945

                                          #21
                                          they probably already have access to anything they want
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                                          • wehateporn
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                                            • Apr 2007
                                            • 27176

                                            #22
                                            Friend of mine knows a cop who had an admin account to get into anyone's Facebook, the friend actually divorced his wife after the discoveries he made in her Facebook (after the Cop logged in)
                                            Last edited by wehateporn; 05-06-2011, 06:50 AM.

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                                            • Agent 488
                                              Registered User
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 22511

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by woj
                                              those are just amateur idiots, I really doubt any serious "homeland security" type criminals would hang out on there... but I guess who knows, I might be giving people too much credit, criminals might actually be THAT stupid....
                                              yeah on google news i come across more organized operations using it, mostly it seems to message people maybe, along with the regular idiots like someone claiming disability and posting pics of them barrel rolling on their open fb ....

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                                              • pornguy
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                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 62912

                                                #24
                                                They still have something called the Patriot act and that gives them any damn thing they want.
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                                                • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                  • 18083

                                                  #25
                                                  If you are stupid enough to use your real identity and location on Facebook and further communicate any incriminating information on Facebook — you are guilty of being a total asswipe ... Any public posting is "plain sight" evidence — no warrant is needed for that.

                                                  However, without a warrant, none of the information obtained in a search of your Facebook account is admissible in any US Court. Maybe, there are ways to do so under the US PATRIOT Act.

                                                  Information gathered this way may not be used in a court proceeding but if not brought to light could be used "unlawfully" in any police or government investigation. This is done all the time if you are not aware of it ...
                                                  Last edited by Barry-xlovecam; 05-06-2011, 07:17 AM.

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                                                  • 96ukssob
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                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                    • 12991

                                                    #26
                                                    depends on how safe you want to feel
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                                                    • Rochard
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                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 75733

                                                      #27
                                                      They need to get a warrant, just like anything else.
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                                                      • _Richard_
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                        • 30991

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                        Friend of mine knows a cop who had an admin account to get into anyone's Facebook, the friend actually divorced his wife after the discoveries he made in her Facebook (after the Cop logged in)
                                                        this true or you bullshittin

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                                                        • ottopottomouse
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                                                          • Jan 2010
                                                          • 13177

                                                          #29
                                                          Course they should. It's vital they can read all about what you had for lunch and the quality of this mornings shit.
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                                                          • Phoenix
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                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 35475

                                                            #30
                                                            they already have it...the backers of facebook are the cia
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                                                            • spazlabz
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 6548

                                                              #31
                                                              shit let them have access... why pretend there are rights to privacy when the government has already stopped the charade

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                                                              • BVF
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                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 13975

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                Friend of mine knows a cop who had an admin account to get into anyone's Facebook, the friend actually divorced his wife after the discoveries he made in her Facebook (after the Cop logged in)

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                                                                • Tom_PM
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                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 16443

                                                                  #33
                                                                  There should be no expectation of privacy online. It's considered a public space. Exactly like shouting from a box of soap in the town square legally. So I dont think it's going to matter in the end. We're being constantly monitored and thats it.
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                                                                  • spazlabz
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                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 6548

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                    There should be no expectation of privacy online. It's considered a public space. Exactly like shouting from a box of soap in the town square legally. So I dont think it's going to matter in the end. We're being constantly monitored and thats it.
                                                                    a counter point to that well thought out argument. People have been sued for making private information available on line. I am not sure (not sarcasm here) but that appears to contradict the lack of expectation or privacy online

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                                                                    • Tom_PM
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                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 16443

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Fights in courts are always part of the process, so thats always ok in my mind. But if a company is breached for example and their data is released, that seems a different situation. You might sue because you were assured a secure system safe from hacking with implied guarantee's or whatever.
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                                                                      • d-null
                                                                        . . .
                                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                                        • 13724

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                        There should be no expectation of privacy online. It's considered a public space. Exactly like shouting from a box of soap in the town square legally. So I dont think it's going to matter in the end. We're being constantly monitored and thats it.
                                                                        the thing is in this digital age, our phones are connected, our contacts, our gps positions from our phones, etc, all linked together, and starting to be from an early age the information is compiled

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                                                                        • wehateporn
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                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                          • 27176

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                                          this true or you bullshittin
                                                                          This is UK, not sure if it's the same in the US, but if you consider that they can take your laptop off you at the airport for no reason and search the harddrive, and if you consider that they can search your house, it's not much different

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                                                                          • helterskelter808
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Sep 2010
                                                                            • 3405

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I'd trust the Government with personal info more than I'd trust Facebook.

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