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DaddyHalbucks 05-06-2011 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18112027)
"the commandos encountered gunshots from only one man, whom they quickly killed, before sweeping the house and shooting others, who were unarmed"

, a senior defense official said in the latest account.


far cry from the blazing firefight described at first , with muslims tossing women in front of bin laden to protect him like pillows while osama fights to the bitter end guns blazing.

so basically in a nutshell one guy managed to pop off a couple shots and everyone else was unarmed they just killed .. lol just a tad different


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/...s/us_bin_laden

Who cares? I don't care if bin Laden was wearing women's underwear, drinking a margarita, and jerking off. The SEALS got the biggest terrorist in the world.

:)

SmokeyTheBear 05-06-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18113620)
Who cares?

everyone who posted in this thread including yourself :thumbsup . do you really not care your gov makes shit up , completely fabricates a story, lies..? i understand wanting bin laden dead , but shouldn't it disturb you a tiny bit the gov thinks you are a sheep that doesn't deserve the truth ? wouldn't it perhaps make you question other things the gov has told you just a tiny bit ?
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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 18113620)
The SEALS got the biggest terrorist in the world.

:)

guess that depends on how you look at it.. certainly not the most prolific :2 cents:

2intense 05-06-2011 08:17 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 05-06-2011 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18113603)
If Osama had been captured the terrorism that it would of involved by radicals hoping to get him free would of made the early plane hijackings look like child's play.

like they did for all the guantanamo detainees ? oh wait , that never happened..

SmokeyTheBear 05-06-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113572)
Yes, we have heard a bunch of conflicting stories. But it's like playing telephone when you kids -


yes it does seem like that , only the "kids" are our elected officials and the telephone is a well prepared statement by people trained to do this..


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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113572)
This happened in a foreign country by a group of Navy Seals. The only ones who know exactly what happened was the Navy Seals.

so your suggesting the gov prepared statements to the country based on completely fabricated events without actually knowing what happened ? and you are ok with that ?

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113572)
They invaded a foreign country, next to a well armed military school, shots where fired in the pitch black, Four or five people were shot down, and helicopter was down... Sounds pretty fucking intense to me.

not sure if you missed the article.. only one guy had a gun , they killed him right off the bat..

Barefootsies 05-06-2011 08:37 AM

You Republican/Conservatives/Klansmen really need to move on with your lives.

I am sure we could sit here endlessly ripping apart every 'fairytale' Bush told. Starting with the one that had gotten us into Iraq in the first fucking place. It's done. Osama dead, Obama gave the order, get over it.
:2 cents:

Rochard 05-06-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18113799)
yes it does seem like that , only the "kids" are our elected officials and the telephone is a well prepared statement by people trained to do this..

They released as much information as they had at the time. And again, the Seals were sitting on an aircraft carrier at sea half a globe away. If they sat on the information, they would have been blasted for "concealing" information.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18113799)
so your suggesting the gov prepared statements to the country based on completely fabricated events without actually knowing what happened ? and you are ok with that ?

Your thinking that someone lied, and that they lied intentionally. As the original details came it they didn't have all of the information, and went with that they have. They called it a "fierce firefight". I'll say it again - the most elite team in the world flew into a foreign country and started a fire fight in the middle of the night where shots were fired, a helicopter was destroyed, a fortified compound with armed men was attacked, and half a dozen people killed - plus they had children involved. Sounds pretty fucking fierce to me.

As for the fact that he was unarmed, don't care. This isn't your local police with a warrant. They shot first and ask questions later. This isn't even open to discussion. Ever.

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18113799)
not sure if you missed the article.. only one guy had a gun , they killed him right off the bat..

Only one person was armed with a gun, but that's not to say there wasn't other guns in the room where Bin Laden was killed. And again, it's not open to discussion. Their objective wasn't to subdue people; Their objective was to force their way into a compound and kill anyone and everyone who got in their way. They didn't knock and say "we have a warrant" and there was none of this "freeze, put your hands up" and "lay down on the ground". Some above said it already - they throw grenades into a room to kill anyone in there before entering.

It's not even something that is open to discussion.

Grapesoda 05-06-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 18112027)
"the commandos encountered gunshots from only one man, whom they quickly killed, before sweeping the house and shooting others, who were unarmed"

, a senior defense official said in the latest account.


far cry from the blazing firefight described at first , with muslims tossing women in front of bin laden to protect him like pillows while osama fights to the bitter end guns blazing.

so basically in a nutshell one guy managed to pop off a couple shots and everyone else was unarmed they just killed .. lol just a tad different


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/...s/us_bin_laden

I would say the complete situation took maybe 15-20 seconds, then maybe 2 min looking around after and loading out. what ewere thinking, the fuckig A team or some shit?

JFK 05-06-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18112028)
and the story will keep on changing....

Totally, they will use the debriefing excuse for a while, till they get all their stories air tight:winkwink:

moeloubani 05-06-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113840)
They released as much information as they had at the time. And again, the Seals were sitting on an aircraft carrier at sea half a globe away. If they sat on the information, they would have been blasted for "concealing" information.



Your thinking that someone lied, and that they lied intentionally. As the original details came it they didn't have all of the information, and went with that they have. They called it a "fierce firefight". I'll say it again - the most elite team in the world flew into a foreign country and started a fire fight in the middle of the night where shots were fired, a helicopter was destroyed, a fortified compound with armed men was attacked, and half a dozen people killed - plus they had children involved. Sounds pretty fucking fierce to me.

As for the fact that he was unarmed, don't care. This isn't your local police with a warrant. They shot first and ask questions later. This isn't even open to discussion. Ever.



Only one person was armed with a gun, but that's not to say there wasn't other guns in the room where Bin Laden was killed. And again, it's not open to discussion. Their objective wasn't to subdue people; Their objective was to force their way into a compound and kill anyone and everyone who got in their way. They didn't knock and say "we have a warrant" and there was none of this "freeze, put your hands up" and "lay down on the ground". Some above said it already - they throw grenades into a room to kill anyone in there before entering.

It's not even something that is open to discussion.

Not even open to discussion? :1orglaugh

That's what people say when they know they have no ground to stand on.

Osama wasn't even a terrorist he was innocent. Everyone knows that. It's not even something that is open to discussion.

The US seal's objective was to kill Bin Laden's children and leave him alive until he resisted. They don't need to follow any rules. This isn't even open to discussion.

You can't just say stupid things and follow them with "This isn't even open to discussion" because everything is open to discussion.

Must suck to WANT to control what people say but not be able to do anything about it, doesn't it Rochard?

JFK 05-06-2011 10:37 AM

Fitty Firefight Fairytales:pimp

SmokeyTheBear 05-06-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113840)
They released as much information as they had at the time.

plus a bunch of fake shit , like that bin laden was firing a weapon , like that woman was tossed in front of bin laden , that she was killed etc etc


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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113840)
Your thinking that someone lied, and that they lied intentionally.

see above.. seems like a lie to me, if they were not intentional lies they would probably not sound so cool./



Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113840)
They called it a "fierce firefight". I'll say it again - the most elite team in the world flew into a foreign country and started a fire fight in the middle of the night where shots were fired, a helicopter was destroyed, a fortified compound with armed men was attacked, and half a dozen people killed - plus they had children involved. Sounds pretty fucking fierce to me.

they destroyed their own helicopter, there was one dude.. yes there was kids , he was at home... the kids are likely with him at home every day just like everyone else. bin laden was a leader not a fighter.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18113840)
Their objective was to force their way into a compound and kill anyone and everyone who got in their way.

and my point was , we probably shouldn't do that or we are no better than they are..:thumbsup

the most important opinions i think are the victims families and how they would like to see him punished.

i bet if you asked a mother or father who lost a son or daughter on 9/11 if they wanted bin laden killed , alot of them would say yes. i bet if you told them " look we have found your daughter/sons killer in a compound in whereveristan , but we have good reason to believe there are children on the compound, is it ok with you if we have to kill a bunch of little girls eating dinner to get bin laden ? " i bet alot of those yes's turn into no's

do we live in a democracy ? do you think your opinion or my opinion is more important than a victims opinion ? do you think obama should met out his own punishment system with disregard for judicial process and without consulting victims ?

sinclair 05-06-2011 11:31 AM

I was personally more interested in the afterparties. Cause in America we love to party and now that the evil doers are dead its a good time to drink!


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