Bin Laden 'was unarmed when shot'
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While the people of the USA may think its jolly great to bomb everything, outside the USA its considered not. And its important to keep good contacts with other countries.
If the place had been bombed it would have created huge dipolatic problems. The UK would have no choice to condem and presure politicaly in the UK would be to move away from USA suport.
Pakistan would go nuts and condem huge deaths.
The site of women and children being brought out dead would fume those in the east. it would create suport for the terrists.
This presedent is clearly trying to change the view of usa that bombs anything and does not care to a usa that is using its troops in a clever way.
thats why he is a good man. and a clever man. bombing the place would be easy, but the results are unaceptable outide the usa. even in the usa its not fully suported.
this is very significant change in polocy.
its why so far there has been no condemnation (that i have seen) from other country leaders.
it was not thick bully boy usa but a smart usa.Comment
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this is why the presedent was smart and used troops, rather than bombed the place.
we (in the uk) watched the iraq wars and affganistan wars were women and children were killed in these bomb attacts. it lead muslims to go out and become terrists.
it led to a lot of anty american hatred, that will take years to heal.
but this presedent is a good man. he clearly is trying to change things.Comment
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"Bin Laden 'was unarmed when shot."
So the fuck what?
The people in the WTC buildings were also unarmed when the dirty bastard's terrorist's thugs crashed the airplanes into the buildings and killed them.
You need to take some time out of your pathetic, meaningless life and watch this:
Take special note of the people who threw themselves from the building rather than burn to death and then come back and tell us all about how badly the murdering bastard Osama bin Laden was treated.Comment
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It shows the difference.
I suspect the regular army would have panicked and shot everyone.
It was sensable using this elite troops. I bet they were calm all the way through.
Probably instructed to not kill the women are children, but at most shoot to desable.
I bet it had been rehersed in a full sized model every day for months.Comment
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Imagine the media and legal circus had he been caught alive and gone to trial.I suspect it was agreed to shoot him before the raid.
Which as I say you can understand.
To keep him alive would be such a pain.
Remeber the chap who was leader of Iraq. The trial became a faorce and his death a discrace. The last thing the USA wanted was that.
And in this case I suspect it would have been (the trial) in the USA. That alone would have coused problems as some would insist on him being trialed in other countries.
The killing of him was not moraly right. It was murder. But in truth if I was the Presedent, it the option he had to take. Solved more problems than it created.
You can imagine if he was on trial, all the tv coverage he would get.
F@ck that, one clean shot to the head and get it over with.
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Maybe Bin Laden was not "running things" from an operational standpoint, but he represents an intangible that's very important to Al Quaeda -- a spiritual leadership. He's an inspirational and motivational figure to the religious zealots that operate in Al Queda, or may be considering joining. He's irreplaceable in that respect.
there's also the money connection. That's sure as hell going to be missed. This is a big, big blow to Al Queda. Any organization needs leadership.Last edited by bronco67; 05-03-2011, 03:51 PM.
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Exactly. And by doing this we are making neutral civilians of those countries dislike US and its policies more and more, and of course its not going to make world a safer place.
PS. Smokey, add a-drone-attacks-every-week on Pakistan in your list too.Comment
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Its sad when you post this.
Sad becase what you post is so un-american.
Sad becase you fail to see why what you post is wrong.
Its sad as as an american you should see a trial as important. You should see the fact that even somone who has comited the worst crimes (or at least have conections with them) still has the right to a fair and honest trial.
Do you not see by what you say makes you no different to a terrist? If you do not belive in freedom, trials and fairness, and just belive that your always right and death to those you do not like, you are saying and acting the same as the terrists. Do you not see that your saying and doing the same as them.Comment
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No one is going to understand this point. This is exactly what terrorist mentality is, Osama and company had the same, some of these people have the same.Do you not see by what you say makes you no different to a terrist? If you do not belive in freedom, trials and fairness, and just belive that your always right and death to those you do not like, you are saying and acting the same as the terrists. Do you not see that your saying and doing the same as them.
Its just perspective that makes difference between a terrorist and a patriot/hero.Comment
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yes
and thats why i say the presedent did not the right moral thing, but the right thing for an end to a lot of problems.
lets face it, its all a bit murky. the involvment the usa had in training him years ago and so on.
but while moraly i find it wong to kill him, it could mean many lives saved. by this it may help end the war in afganistan, which will saves lives on all sides. this (i hope) could lead to an earler end to the war.Comment
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i think that was early reports.
they are saying he did not use her as a defence.
But if I was the presedent, I would have done the sdame, and ordered his death.
A trial would have gone on years and made him look weak.
Moraly it was wrong. It was murder. But he had no option. A trial would cost millions, last years, lots of legal issues and made him a mator and made the presedent look weak, plus he would be in the news each day.
This was the simplist option. Its not right to kill him, but the presedent is a usa presedent. By this he is consentraiting on the USA and had hilory to concentrate on other countries. Unlike Nikson wqho was considered very respected by country leaders but not liked at home (usa).
I think in the UK our priminister has done the same. Consetrate on the home market (UK) but have somone William Heage deal with the foregn dipolotic situation.
I suspect this operation had been incredibly planed out. Clearly they knew were he was for a while and had the whole house scanned. Probably had a satalight just on the house for months. I bet there will be nothing so well planed out ever.
Oh no, I was really just playing.... I bet I haven't watched 2 minutes of it since it was initially announced. Celebrating or watching about someone dying isn't really my bag.... I was just being a smartass here. That's all.
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yes
its sad that people often fail to see what they think is right, is not.
My friend (in the uk) said that the muslims who burnt the poppies (we have a poppy day - not sure if you have the same tradition in the usa) should be put in prison.
I upset her by pointing out that she was in fact by saying that far worse than some mulim burning a poppy as she was saying that freedom of speach should be taken away.
Voltar (probably spelt the name wrong) said that i may not agree with what you say, but i will die defending your right to say it.
i am in the uk, but even so i still have pride for the usa. the usa should not go around trying toi change other countries to be like it (or invade for oil). but it should be the country people look up to. fairness, freedom at whatever cost for whoever.
i remeber the chap who did porn (the one in a wheelchair) saids that the law should apply the same to everyone, even a scumbag as him (or words to that affect).
I look towards the usa as a fair country. i realy get upset when i see it doing wrong or be seen to do wrong. I love amerca in that respect. I am not and will never be anty american. but i will critize it if i feel it needs to be critised. aqnd i get so angry when i hear morons in america think its clever to say bomb everyone.
this is why i have hope for this presedent.Comment


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