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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184
    #31
    Originally posted by MisterPeabody
    You pretty much got it Mo BUT it ALL depends on your content. Take it from someone who's spent thousands on advertising and buying traffic (to little to no avail). Building your own traffic takes time but is the best thing to do ultimately, buying traffic/ads is a waste of money for you now, so do the other things you listed that do NOT cost you $$$.

    But your content better be interesting and unique cause if it's just a blonde girl or something the amount of traffic you'll need to be successful will be prohibitive. Unque you may only need several thousand uniques to be successful. Good luck man!!
    hey, thanks. i hear ya, will be fun to see if it does spark anybody to whip out a cc. it's certainly not represented anywhere as good as it could be but it's also not a mega big micro niche either. and i like it which makes it all fun + sorting out things like this is fun too!


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      • The Porn Nerd
        Living The Dream
        • Jun 2009
        • 19784
        #32
        Originally posted by dyna mo
        hey, thanks. i hear ya, will be fun to see if it does spark anybody to whip out a cc. it's certainly not represented anywhere as good as it could be but it's also not a mega big micro niche either. and i like it which makes it all fun + sorting out things like this is fun too!


        Some of the "micro-niches" that people ignore at first can be GOLD Mr. Dyna Mo! Hit me on ICQ if you ever need any paysite advice. You can take it with a grain of salt, of course, as almost every paysite (and paysite owner) is differant. LOL Good luck with it man!
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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184
            #33
            Originally posted by MisterPeabody
            Some of the "micro-niches" that people ignore at first can be GOLD Mr. Dyna Mo! Hit me on ICQ if you ever need any paysite advice. You can take it with a grain of salt, of course, as almost every paysite (and paysite owner) is differant. LOL Good luck with it man!
            that would be cool with me ....... and thanks, i would very much like to chat with you on icq, i'll holler at ya down the road in a weekish when the design is finished and the 1st few sets are uploaded.


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              • Jack Sparrow
                Almost goners..
                • May 2008
                • 11420
                #34
                Honestly, and no offense, but 1k wont get you anywhere near your set goal.

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184
                    #35
                    Originally posted by Jack Sparrow
                    Honestly, and no offense, but 1k wont get you anywhere near your set goal.
                    that was a # picked out of the sky, but yes, that's not a viable # for monthly marketing dollars.

                    i think a more realistic way to look at it is what am i willing to spend per customer/sale? that answer is 50% of the sale. ultimately.

                    i think that's a better way to look at it, right?

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                      • kristin
                        GOO!
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 9768
                        #36
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        ty
                        it's a micro niche, well, i would consider it a micro niche. nothing entirely new, but a focus on an overlooked aspect of a niche. so i'm with you, i was counting on tube traffic to be pretty sweet if it can set it up properly with the right ones, which i'm sure it can.

                        so based on what i'm hearing, the best route is to

                        set up initial seo
                        develop my own traffic via the tgp/mgp + blog,

                        then add tube traffic

                        then begin testing with brokered traffic

                        then working out member area traffic deals from similar sites?

                        You always want to do free marketing first, so SEO, listings, trade links, blogs, etc. No reason to spend money especially when some of the methods will take time to grow. You can have some clips cut up and toss them up on the tubes.

                        I don't think you need a broker or ad network until even further down the road. We have a CPA standard for our mobile deals with brokers and that info you cannot determine without months of data, including rebills.

                        If the content is good enough you can push this thing on your own no problem.

                        Also, I would implement a mobile solution.
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                          • Jack Sparrow
                            Almost goners..
                            • May 2008
                            • 11420
                            #37
                            You nailed the point exactly.

                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                            that was a # picked out of the sky, but yes, that's not a viable # for monthly marketing dollars.

                            i think a more realistic way to look at it is what am i willing to spend per customer/sale? that answer is 50% of the sale. ultimately.

                            i think that's a better way to look at it, right?

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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184
                                #38
                                Originally posted by kristin
                                You always want to do free marketing first, so SEO, listings, trade links, blogs, etc. No reason to spend money especially when some of the methods will take time to grow. You can have some clips cut up and toss them up on the tubes.

                                I don't think you need a broker or ad network until even further down the road. We have a CPA standard for our mobile deals with brokers and that info you cannot determine without months of data, including rebills.

                                If the content is good enough you can push this thing on your own no problem.

                                Also, I would implement a mobile solution.
                                appreciated! i agree with you re: that if the content is good enough, there should be no serious roadblocks. i don't have any experience with that though so it's nice to hear your professional opinion knock-knocks on that.

                                i was wondering why you did not mention mobile earlier!

                                how early should that get going? just like traffic, i am not experienced in mobile, prolly worse with mobile.
                                one of my buddies writes mobile aps, etc, he & i can maybe brainstorm a fun app that can pull some traffic.


                                Originally posted by Jack Sparrow
                                You nailed the point exactly.
                                i appreciate the input!



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                                  • pornguy
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 62912
                                    #39
                                    If your grandfather had a business how did he advertise?

                                    Think outside the digital sphere.
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                                      • Agent 488
                                        Registered User
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 22511
                                        #40
                                        why go through brokers? find the top tubes/tgps/blogs in your niches and buy directly through them or find the sites on juicy ads.

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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by Agent 488
                                            why go through brokers? find the top tubes/tgps/blogs in your niches and buy directly through them or find the sites on juicy ads.
                                            i have juicy ads ready to go in that way, but there are several TGP/MGPs in the niche that don't trade that i would like to trade with, i guess they have their own traffic circles set-up already, at least it appears that's the case.

                                            also, a lot of them have dropped the ball post-tube era. soooo many have a skim set to 90%, don't update, have thumbs that clik to car insurance pages.

                                            frankly, i think it's wide fucking open to get sales from MGP/TGPs, these guys should clean up their sites and get them working properly again. at least that's my observation.

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                                              • pornguy
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 62912
                                                #42
                                                Hey mo.. Hit me on ICQ and I will give you a site to try and contact for some traffic he has a big network
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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by pornguy
                                                    Hey mo.. Hit me on ICQ and I will give you a site to try and contact for some traffic he has a big network
                                                    well i currently don't have the icq. but i guess now that i am getting into this side of the biz, it's time i get to icquin eh!

                                                    i appreciate the offer, will install icq and contact you.

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                                                      • NewNick
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2009
                                                        • 7229
                                                        #44
                                                        So you registered Dec 2008, and you have witnessed the decimation of the adult paysite/affiliate model whilst making over 10k posts.

                                                        Now you want to start a paysite ?
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                                                          • kristin
                                                            GOO!
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 9768
                                                            #45
                                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                            appreciated! i agree with you re: that if the content is good enough, there should be no serious roadblocks. i don't have any experience with that though so it's nice to hear your professional opinion knock-knocks on that.

                                                            i was wondering why you did not mention mobile earlier!

                                                            how early should that get going? just like traffic, i am not experienced in mobile, prolly worse with mobile.
                                                            one of my buddies writes mobile aps, etc, he & i can maybe brainstorm a fun app that can pull some traffic.



                                                            i appreciate the input!



                                                            Hit me up and we can chat, there are all sorts of things that I can't share with everyone. Have to keep some traffic secrets.

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