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  • Peace
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    • Sep 2004
    • 5668

    #16
    Interesting topic but no people post anything. I would be interested to know details too
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    • dyna mo
      just a fucking jerk
      • Dec 2008
      • 68184

      #17
      Originally posted by Agent 488
      most of the big brograms are doing heavy seo work on their paysites (rk/brazzers) so at the very least you should get that going as a long term thing. wont cost much though.
      appreciated! i wouldn't of considered this since tubes are always portrayed as dominating the search engines.

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      • Ross
        Ik ben een aap
        • Sep 2002
        • 18874

        #18
        SEO should be your main concern while building the paysites out. Traffic Brokers you'll spend a boat load more than $1000 in your first month, just simply to find out what spots work and what don't, this is where you will probably lose the most amount of money.

        It takes a long long time to get good quality sales going to sites. I started doing it for PIMPROLL almost 4 years ago now and we still have times where we see $150 sales... believe me, it's not fun! Especially with your limited budgets. Be careful.

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        • ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE
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          • Apr 2011
          • 1241

          #19
          Spend nothing on traffic.
          Take what ever little budget you might have and start building blogs, galleries and such. Its money better spent till you got an idea of how your site converts, where the traffic comes from.

          Having your own traffic sources is your best option for the longterm.
          Last edited by ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE; 05-03-2011, 10:50 AM.

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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184

            #20
            thanks Ross, i can focus dollars on each traffic source for short periods, i figure eh. there's no rush on things from here. let's take brokers, i can split a grand between 3 and go from there? $350 in traffic to 3 brokers should be a decent test eh? i would hope that in 90 days, the testing can sort out to a good enough *starting* point.

            same with tubes, i think?? but i don't know if $1000/month would suffice for testing tube partnership or 3 for a small micro niche site.

            and by partnership, i mean pages that have this content have links back etc.

            i get ya with the seo, that all has to percolate a while before it hits.

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #21
              Originally posted by ThatOtherGuy
              Spend nothing on traffic.
              Take what ever little budget you might have and start building blogs, galleries and such. Its money better spent till you got an idea of how your site converts, where the traffic comes from.

              Having your own traffic sources is your best option for the longterm.
              appreciated!
              my thought was to do both in conjunction. bad idea? i've actually got a different budget for tgp/mgp & blog traffic using galleries and all + more labor hours allocated. i'm super curious about this traffic too, esp. with the still photo crowd. i agree with you too and think early sales will come from here. could be wrong though, i'm confident in most all the other aspects of the project but my experience generating the required sort of traffic is lacking.



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              • Fenris Wolf
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 1059

                #22
                Don't throw broker traffic to a paysite tour unless you have something unique. My suggestion is to create a paysite/tube hybrid for that. You will need multiple designs to split test your purchased traffic. What works for one broker may not work for another. Same goes for the type of traffic purchased, ie clicked banner, pop, skim, ect.

                For branding purposes upload to the major tubes. Just a handful of sites are necessary. Your uploads will eventually get scraped by other sites, so let them do most of the work. Same thing goes for mainstream sites (example:youtube, dailymotion) that allow risque content.
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                • Furious_Male
                  Doing the grind since 99
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 16884

                  #23
                  Depending on the niche I would delegate blocks of time and energy to social media promotion as well. Twitter, Reddit, Facebook (if you can manage a SFW approach), etc.
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                  • seeandsee
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 50945

                    #24
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                    • xxxbusiness
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 254

                      #25
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                      • dyna mo
                        just a fucking jerk
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 68184

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Fenris Wolf
                        Don't throw broker traffic to a paysite tour unless you have something unique. My suggestion is to create a paysite/tube hybrid for that. You will need multiple designs to split test your purchased traffic. What works for one broker may not work for another. Same goes for the type of traffic purchased, ie clicked banner, pop, skim, ect.

                        For branding purposes upload to the major tubes. Just a handful of sites are necessary. Your uploads will eventually get scraped by other sites, so let them do most of the work. Same thing goes for mainstream sites (example:youtube, dailymotion) that allow risque content.
                        hey thanks! any links to example paysite/tube hybrids? i am not sure i am getting that.

                        Originally posted by Furious_Male
                        Depending on the niche I would delegate blocks of time and energy to social media promotion as well. Twitter, Reddit, Facebook (if you can manage a SFW approach), etc.
                        i think there is a pretty good SFW approach, i'm going to give that a good effort.
                        Originally posted by seeandsee
                        When you buy traffic from broker, you can buy directly from domain you want, you check their thumbs and make landing page to be "similar" to content on domain, bust CTR, bust ROI, bust QUALITY
                        noted, ty.
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                        i will look at that eh,


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                        • kristin
                          GOO!
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 9768

                          #27
                          Maybe I missed it in all the posts - what is the niche?

                          Micro niche = tubes
                          General niche = no tubes

                          Stay away from brokers at first - you'll get raped and left with a bad taste in your mouth. Brokers don't know your sites or traffic, so learn yourself before you trust someone else bringing you deals.
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                          • Nicky
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 30071

                            #28
                            Good thread

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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #29
                              Originally posted by kristin
                              Maybe I missed it in all the posts - what is the niche?

                              Micro niche = tubes
                              General niche = no tubes

                              Stay away from brokers at first - you'll get raped and left with a bad taste in your mouth. Brokers don't know your sites or traffic, so learn yourself before you trust someone else bringing you deals.
                              ty
                              it's a micro niche, well, i would consider it a micro niche. nothing entirely new, but a focus on an overlooked aspect of a niche. so i'm with you, i was counting on tube traffic to be pretty sweet if it can set it up properly with the right ones, which i'm sure it can.

                              so based on what i'm hearing, the best route is to

                              set up initial seo
                              develop my own traffic via the tgp/mgp + blog,

                              then add tube traffic

                              then begin testing with brokered traffic

                              then working out member area traffic deals from similar sites?

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                              • The Porn Nerd
                                Living The Dream
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 19784

                                #30
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                ty
                                it's a micro niche, well, i would consider it a micro niche. nothing entirely new, but a focus on an overlooked aspect of a niche. so i'm with you, i was counting on tube traffic to be pretty sweet if it can set it up properly with the right ones, which i'm sure it can.

                                so based on what i'm hearing, the best route is to

                                set up initial seo
                                develop my own traffic via the tgp/mgp + blog,

                                then add tube traffic

                                then begin testing with brokered traffic

                                then working out member area traffic deals from similar sites?

                                You pretty much got it Mo BUT it ALL depends on your content. Take it from someone who's spent thousands on advertising and buying traffic (to little to no avail). Building your own traffic takes time but is the best thing to do ultimately, buying traffic/ads is a waste of money for you now, so do the other things you listed that do NOT cost you $$$.

                                But your content better be interesting and unique cause if it's just a blonde girl or something the amount of traffic you'll need to be successful will be prohibitive. Unque you may only need several thousand uniques to be successful. Good luck man!!
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