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Old 01-22-2003, 05:19 PM   #1
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Bush declares "Pornagraphy Free America by 2005"

First they get the women....

Then they get the pornographers....

Dont think it won't happen.

Brought to you by your friendly neighborhood Republican Administation. BOO YA!

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Abortion activists get White House boost
Anti-abortion activists are increasingly optimistic

By Steve Schifferes
BBC News Online Washington correspondent

It was freezing cold on the Washington Mall as anti-abortion protests began their March for Life from the White House to the Supreme Court.

But in the bright sunshine, the thousands of anti-abortion activists waving signs and American flags were in a positive mood.

Abortion: A potent symbol of evil for the protesters
Not only did they have the White House in their sights, but they believed that the first time since the Supreme Court legalised abortion 30 years ago, they had a real friend in President George W Bush.

Joe Mowrici, a dentist from Cannonburg, Pennsylvania, had travelled with his son to be on the march.

He told BBC News Online that he was optimistic that the Bush Administration would support his cause.

He said that the logic of abortion was the logic of the Holocaust - so that even those without religious convictions should embrace the cause.


Joe Mowroci hopes the President will support him
And Mr Bush did not disappoint him, telling the rally by telephone to loud cheers that America should "value and protect the lives of innocent children waiting to be born".

Several Republican Congressmen vowed to take the fight to ban abortion to the floor of Congress - and win - this year.

Religion the key

But the argument about abortion - which is becoming one of the central political divides in America - is more than just about the single issue.

It is essentially a battle to refight the cultural wars of the l960s.

For the anti-abortionists, it is a religious and moral duty to oppose the "feminist abortionists who have killed 42 million unborn Americans" since l973, and to throw out the "hippie generation of judges" who had legalised abortion.

At the side of the rally the activists had planted hundreds of crosses, representing those deaths, while several activists strode through the crowd dressed as death and coffins adorned the stage.


Christine Bowler says her faith has guided her anti-abortion stance
Christine Bowler told BBC News Online that she had vowed to herself and her church that she would come on the march.

She has been a homemaker from Waldorf, Maryland, and raised two sons.

And she feels that fighting abortion is her way of finding God in her heart.

And religion is still a key motivating force for the protesters, many of whose banners displayed the names of the churches they were from rather than their states.

High-powered feminists

The night before these largely working class anti-abortion protesters from the Midwest took to the streets, a high-powered fundraising event was taking place for the pro-choice forces.


Democrats united at a rally to support the right to abortion
At the swanky Omni Shoreham hotel, 2,000 well-dressed activists had gathered to hear the six Democratic hopefuls for the Presidency denounce the Bush Administration as anti-women and pledge their support for the pro-choice forces.

It was a glitzy event, with three huge video screens and four stages projecting the images of the distinguished speakers, who included the actress Kathleen Turner and Ossie Davis, and the wife of former Vice President Al Gore.

There were two well produced videos, a history of the pro-choice movement and a new television commercial appealing for support.

The pro-choice activists had the advantage in style and glamour.

But with pro-life forces gathering strength, there was a nervousness in the air - about whether, 30 years after their victory, they had the ability to mobilise again to face their biggest political fight.

And as Democratic hopeful Richard Gephardt told the gathering, "we do need a strategy and a plan and a vision - and it begins by not ceding the moral high ground."

In the political battle to come, it will be whoever is more effective at mobilising the grassroots who will gain the advantage.

And in a religious America, it remains to be seen whether the church or Hollywood will provide more effective in rallying their supporters.
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Old 01-22-2003, 05:37 PM   #2
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I don't think there should be any anti-abortion laws... Possibily controlled.

16 and 17 years old can hardly take care of themselves... How in the world could they properly care for another human being?

Where in that article does it say anything about a porn FREE america? Did you cut and paste the wrong article?

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Old 01-22-2003, 05:38 PM   #3
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Obssesive Compulsive..... eh....

So don't vote for him. Oh... I forgot, you don't get a vote
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Old 01-22-2003, 06:00 PM   #4
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16 and 17 years old can hardly take care of themselves... How in the world could they properly care for another human being?
If these kids can hardly care for themselves then they shouldn't be spreading their legs/pulling out their cocks
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If these kids can hardly care for themselves then they shouldn't be spreading their legs/pulling out their cocks
Yeah you're right. But they'll never learn
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Old 01-22-2003, 06:11 PM   #6
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Yeah this seems like wrong article for the post title.
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Old 01-22-2003, 06:13 PM   #7
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After we kick Iraqs ass and take that oil the economy will boom and signups will sky rocket, I seen it on CNN no lie
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If these kids can hardly care for themselves then they shouldn't be spreading their legs/pulling out their cocks
Anal sex is the key.
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they should start teaching that in schools...
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Regardless of whether or not you are pro choice or pro life, the fact is:

Make abortions illegal, and women will still continue to have them only in bad unsanitary conditions. 50+- years ago women were using coat hangers to perform their own self abortion, only they were dieing from it.

Speaking of which... Rowe v. Wade.. Apparently Ms. Rowe who fought for abortion rights is now a converted religious freak and is anti abortion...
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Old 01-22-2003, 07:49 PM   #12
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Anal sex is the key.
I knew a chick who would only have anal because she was afraid of getting pregnant. Haha.
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Wtf?
There is nothing in that that has anything to with your subject line!
"Bush declares "Pornagraphy FREE America by 2005"

Geez, what was the point of that?

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I find it odd that there are so many pro-life and pro-choicers out there, but there are so few pro-responsibility, pro-education and pro-safesex proponents.

Who needs abortions?

1) Teenage-late 20s girls who are irresponsible and get knocked up. They made a mistake. Abortion is an easy way out. Is it right? Is it moral or ethical? Probably not.. but is it ethical to bring a child into the world that isn't wanted or where the parent(s) don't have the means to provide the best life for that child's upbringing? Tough call, everyone has an opinion. I say pro-choice.

3) Responsible girls who are victims of faulty contraception.. perhaps the rubber breaks. Similar problem as before however now, the kid wasn't even intended! I say let her follow through with the contraception she intended originally and be done with it.

2) Victims of incest and rape. I would bet that 99% of those pro-lifers would get an abortion if their 15-year-old daughter was raped and impregnated at the bus stop. There have been several politicians and religious leaders whose daughters have become pregnant either through rape or irresponsible sex and have quitely gotten abortions. Hipocracy rules the day.

3) I may be forgetting a group that needs abortions.. you can fill them in here.



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The thing that I don't get is that there's THOUSANDS of couples that'd give anything to have a baby, while there's also THOUSANDS of people having abortions every day. Well, why not match them up and everyone will be happy
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I find it odd that there are so many pro-life and pro-choicers out there, but there are so few pro-responsibility, pro-education and pro-safesex proponents.

Who needs abortions?
2) Victims of incest and rape. I would bet that 99% of those pro-lifers would get an abortion if their 15-year-old daughter was raped and impregnated at the bus stop. There have been several politicians and religious leaders whose daughters have become pregnant either through rape or irresponsible sex and have quitely gotten abortions. Hipocracy rules the day.
right, like little jenny is going to come back to daddy and tell him that she got drunk at a party and slept with timmy from two doors down and didn't use protectection...
no she was raped at the bus stop, and needs to have it removed!
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I knew a chick who would only have anal because she was afraid of getting pregnant. Haha.

I think you already told us that story. You sure it was a chick?
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Its not that complicated! The answer is real simple, surf porn and wack off in front of a screen = no pregnancies.

Open up access to teenagers, and the pregancy problem dissappears.

See? Simple.

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The thing that I don't get is that there's THOUSANDS of couples that'd give anything to have a baby, while there's also THOUSANDS of people having abortions every day. Well, why not match them up and everyone will be happy
there are THOUSANDS of babies and children available for adoption already - we don't need more. THOUSANDS of unwanted actual living children (as opposed to unliving fetuses). the main issue with them is that they're not all the "ideal" children for the parents (read: white).
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I think you already told us that story. You sure it was a chick?
I think you're thinking of my tranny encounter.
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Regardless of whether or not you are pro choice or pro life, the fact is:

Make abortions illegal, and women will still continue to have them only in bad unsanitary conditions. 50+- years ago women were using coat hangers to perform their own self abortion, only they were dieing from it.

Speaking of which... Rowe v. Wade.. Apparently Ms. Rowe who fought for abortion rights is now a converted religious freak and is anti abortion...
It was Roe vs Wade genius
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It was Roe vs Wade genius

Nothing like illiteracy mixed with a little liberalism for some good ole political fun!!
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If these kids can hardly care for themselves then they shouldn't be spreading their legs/pulling out their cocks
So if they do this, they should have the kid as punishment? Yeah, that kid's gonna have a good life.

My parents had me in a good situation and I wish I had been aborted. Imagine what it's like for a kid with fucked up parents.
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MrPOPUP,

You're an idiot. I'm pro choice, but misquoting Bush like that is just a real douchebag move on your part. Nothing in this article was even remotely about porn and you just have to resort to cheap and lame leftist tactics such as misqouting people.

Personally I hate the Left Wing liberals as much as those Right Wing fossils currently in office.

It pisses me off to no end that I have to settle with one idiotic extreme (such or yourself) or another (some stupid religous conversative)
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3) Responsible girls who are victims of faulty contraception.. perhaps the rubber breaks. Similar problem as before however now, the kid wasn't even intended! I say let her follow through with the contraception she intended originally and be done with it.
This is probably the biggest group. People tend to think the pill is infallible, but it fails 1-2% of the time. Doesn't sound like much, but when there are millions of people relying on something that fails 1 out of 100 times, the numbers really start to stack up.

Foolproof but reversible birth control would go a long way towards reducing the # of abortions.

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Regardless of whether or not you are pro choice or pro life, the fact is:

Make abortions illegal, and women will still continue to have them only in bad unsanitary conditions. 50+- years ago women were using coat hangers to perform their own self abortion, only they were dieing from it....

Well said, Sheepster.

MrPopup, your topic seems befitting to me; to quote the article,
"Several Republican Congressmen vowed to take the fight to ban abortion to the floor of Congress - and win - this year.

Religion the key"

Scary stuff! Seems porn on Bush's agenda isn't too far off either.
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Can we get a source for the "porn free america by 2005" quote?
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yeah that was lame about the title..

About abortion, im against it... But I think it should be okay for rape victims and only rape victims.
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MrPopup, your topic seems befitting to me
it doesn't to me.
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If these kids can hardly care for themselves then they shouldn't be spreading their legs/pulling out their cocks
You do not have to tell us you live in Never Never land if this is what you think. Look at the location.
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Amazes me how this is even a debate in America.
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I think the title is supposed to be ironic.
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I think the title is supposed to be ironic.
Thanks, it sunk in finally.. lol
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I think the title is supposed to be ironic.
Hah...took long enough.....guess you win a prize.

Where should I send the flowers?
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Bush is worried about the life of a fetus when we kill hundreds of thousands of sand niggas in the desert... Every life is important?

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Pope for President!

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I am closing this thread because the title is more than misleading, it's outright false. If someone wants to start an abortion thread, go ahead, but let's call it what it is.
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