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xenigo 04-29-2011 01:40 PM

This is why it's illegal to videotape a police officer.

They don't want evidence to exist that will be used against them in court.

Funny though, how it's completely legal for them to videotape you for the purpose of conviction...

boneprone 04-29-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 18094538)
Vegas police are Draconian. Just ask that guy that got killed at Costco last year.

How can we? Hes dead dude.

biskoppen 04-29-2011 02:37 PM

Hmm.. where is the beating? All I hear is a man screaming like insane.. no sounds of any beating at all??

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18096912)
This is why it's illegal to videotape a police officer.

They don't want evidence to exist that will be used against them in court.

Funny though, how it's completely legal for them to videotape you for the purpose of conviction...

it's not illegal their in a public place. if it was illegal we wouldn't be viewing it. :)

xenigo 04-29-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18097058)
it's not illegal their in a public place. if it was illegal we wouldn't be viewing it. :)

You know, it goes against common sense... and it certainly goes against the First Amendment... but there's a lot of crazy shit going on lately about judges and police alike who believe people don't have a right to videotape police. Remember that guy who was caught doing wheelies on an interstate somewhere on the east coast, and had a gun drawn on him? Well... he never got cited... but I believe he got thrown in jail for "recording an officer".

Lots of incidents like that happening lately. It's fucking nuts. Lots of cops who think they have the right to take down anyone that points a video camera at them.

They refuse to be held accountable for their actions.

Smokieflame 04-29-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18094243)
Watch that again. the cop was in the right and the guy is wrong. On top of that it was a simple take down where the guy struggled.. Had this been a real beating it would have even sounded different.

Fist question from the cop. Can I help you. No. Just observing. Second question. Do you live here. No. ( thats trespassing. ) why were the cops there? Report of burglary in the area? Report of person peeping?? He wont get paid because of his own video.

Actually it is not trespassing. Just b/c the guy does not live there the cop had no warranted reason to believe he was trespassing. If it was his friends house he had reason to be there, and if the owner of the home does not complain about trespassing there is no trespassing crime. The guy was fully within his rights to be both filming and standing where he was. Sadly this stuff happens a lot, you would think with all the videos of it something would be done on a major scale but people rather ignore it.

Smokieflame 04-29-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18096912)
This is why it's illegal to videotape a police officer.

They don't want evidence to exist that will be used against them in court.

Funny though, how it's completely legal for them to videotape you for the purpose of conviction...

It is not illegal to film a police officer, it is not illegal to film anyone when you are in public or on private property such as this guy was. How do you think the poperatzy get away with basically stalking?

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18097082)
You know, it goes against common sense... and it certainly goes against the First Amendment... but there's a lot of crazy shit going on lately about judges and police alike who believe people don't have a right to videotape police. Remember that guy who was caught doing wheelies on an interstate somewhere on the east coast, and had a gun drawn on him? Well... he never got cited... but I believe he got thrown in jail for "recording an officer".

Lots of incidents like that happening lately. It's fucking nuts. Lots of cops who think they have the right to take down anyone that points a video camera at them.

They refuse to be held accountable for their actions.

an officer here in phoenix put a crack pipe on a lady here. the camera at the crime lab filmed him doing it. :helpme his punishment one day and he was paid. he said that he was just playing with her. wanna see? http://www.azfamily.com/video/featur...105005254.html

Smokieflame 04-29-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18097100)
an officer here in phoenix put a crack pipe on a lady here. the camera at the crime lab filmed him doing it. :helpme his punishment one day and he was paid. he said that he was just playing with her. wanna see? http://www.azfamily.com/video/featur...105005254.html

Yep I remember that. I had a buddy get arrested by Mesa Police, they put a meth pipe on him sadly no camera's caught it and he was prosecuted. Funny thing was the guy doesn't drink or smoke anything and was going to collage, needless to say he wasted a lot of money on a degree he really can't use b/c of a drug charge.

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 18097130)
Yep I remember that. I had a buddy get arrested by Mesa Police, they put a meth pipe on him sadly no camera's caught it and he was prosecuted. Funny thing was the guy doesn't drink or smoke anything and was going to collage, needless to say he wasted a lot of money on a degree he really can't use b/c of a drug charge.

oh mesa i never go there unless im headed to the lakes. other than that i don't enter. :helpme

jimmy-3-way 04-29-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18097100)
an officer here in phoenix put a crack pipe on a lady here. the camera at the crime lab filmed him doing it. :helpme his punishment one day and he was paid. he said that he was just playing with her. wanna see? http://www.azfamily.com/video/featur...105005254.html

"the officer said it was a joke"

Real fucking funny one, too.

AnimeFevers 04-29-2011 03:49 PM

lol I am the law!

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18097142)
"the officer said it was a joke"

Real fucking funny one, too.

just think if the camera wasn't there. :Oh crap and the lab technicians didn't come forward. she would have been in prison cause she has priors. :2 cents:

xenigo 04-29-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 18097094)
It is not illegal to film a police officer, it is not illegal to film anyone when you are in public or on private property such as this guy was. How do you think the poperatzy get away with basically stalking?

Well... try it, and let us know what happens. Police are going after people who videotape them, trying to control what people see them do.

jimmy-3-way 04-29-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18097162)
just think if the camera wasn't there. :Oh crap and the lab technicians didn't come forward. she would have been in prison cause she has priors. :2 cents:

The justice system is a joke all around.

I was on jury duty a few years ago - long story short:

Dude was sitting on the stoop of a shit hole apartment getting his hair cut by some chick. Cops roll up. Everyone assembled beats feet, except the dude. Cops chase a few people, give up, come back and put cuffs on the guy, ask him if they can search the apt. Dude answers, "What do I care, I don't live here."

Cops find a suitcase of woman's clothing, bag of crack and a POS .22 handgun, arrest the guy and charge him for both.

His car is in the driveway, registered to a diff shit hole apartment, they don't search it.

In court the public pretender produces the car's registration and a lease for a shit hole apartment across town where the guy lives.

Verdict: guilty on possession, guilty on gun charge and enhanced as a prohibited possessor cos the guy was a felon.

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18097192)
The justice system is a joke all around.

I was on jury duty a few years ago - long story short:

Dude was sitting on the stoop of a shit hole apartment getting his hair cut by some chick. Cops roll up. Everyone assembled beats feet, except the dude. Cops chase a few people, give up, come back and put cuffs on the guy, ask him if they can search the apt. Dude answers, "What do I care, I don't live here."

Cops find a suitcase of woman's clothing, bag of crack and a POS .22 handgun, arrest the guy and charge him for both.

His car is in the driveway, registered to a diff shit hole apartment, they don't search it.

In court the public pretender produces the car's registration and a lease for a shit hole apartment across town where the guy lives.

Verdict: guilty on possession, guilty on gun charge and enhanced as a prohibited possessor cos the guy was a felon.

yeah well if he was street wise don't hang outside in a high dope area. if he was hanging out with them im sure he knew what time it was(that they slang rocks).

u-Bob 04-29-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18097175)
Well... try it, and let us know what happens. Police are going after people who videotape them, trying to control what people see them do.

Sad but true. In the UK they already made it illegal to videotape police activity. It's part of some new anti-terrorism measures. Officially it is to prevent terrorist from identifying and targeting police officers. In reality they only use it if someone catches them beating up and tasing people.

maxjohan 04-29-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 18095655)
Looks like he s looking for touble to start with {again}:

Looking for trouble with a video camera?

I mean, you guys that defend the cop here is fucking disgusting. It's like you want to sit inside a room all your life. At the "deserve this as he was outside"

Are you not supposed to be outside? WTF is wrong with you people. Glad I don't live in the USA. I had gone nuts with the stinky attitude.

Don't you guys like your freedom or something?

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18097027)
Hmm.. where is the beating? All I hear is a man screaming like insane.. no sounds of any beating at all??

You've seen too many movies or something? :helpme

You can beat a guy in a lot of different ways. Doesn't have to hear it.

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 05:04 PM

just saw on the newz a mesa cop charged with 3 felonies and some other stuff. http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...to-find-a-date hahaha!!!

Sausage 04-29-2011 05:40 PM

Funny thing is having been to the likes of China, Indonesia etc I actually feel more at risk, and in more danger from law enforcement in the US.

Robbie 04-29-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 18097344)
Funny thing is having been to the likes of China, Indonesia etc I actually feel more at risk, and in more danger from law enforcement in the US.

You are. :( Cops here WILL shoot you dead and get away with it. And the news will report that you were a "terrorist" or a drug dealer or whatever the cops want to say.

moeloubani 04-29-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18095247)
That's because that's all you can do against a cop.

They can pull a gun on you, shoot you, taze you, beat the shit out of you, order you around...and you aren't allowed to defend yourself at all. Even if you struggle against them while they are beating your ass, they call it "resisting arrest"

Take that badge off of that fucker and take his gang of other guys wearing uniforms away and I wouldn't let him get away with two seconds of his bullshit. But with that badge? He can do whatever he wants to.

And yeah, you can "win" later in court. But that's AFTER he's had his way with you and broken your face and thrown you in jail and humiliated you. :(

I'm not sure about US law but in Canadian law you can resist an illegal arrest without penalty.

As to the people saying when he said he didn't live there he was trespassing, not necessarily so, he could have been on the property with permission.

That said a police officer isn't allowed to detain you because he thinks you might be trespassing, the officer needs evidence or needs some probable cause before he or she can arrest you or even detain you.

The police can't go up to someone and ask them if they live where they're standing and when they say no just automatically take them to the ground as if they are trespassing. That would be chaos.

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 18097371)
I'm not sure about US law but in Canadian law you can resist an illegal arrest without penalty.

As to the people saying when he said he didn't live there he was trespassing, not necessarily so, he could have been on the property with permission.


yeah you can tell them to leave for sure. but just remember they will keep that disrespect in the back of their mind for later.

BlackCrayon 04-29-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18097082)
You know, it goes against common sense... and it certainly goes against the First Amendment... but there's a lot of crazy shit going on lately about judges and police alike who believe people don't have a right to videotape police. Remember that guy who was caught doing wheelies on an interstate somewhere on the east coast, and had a gun drawn on him? Well... he never got cited... but I believe he got thrown in jail for "recording an officer".

Lots of incidents like that happening lately. It's fucking nuts. Lots of cops who think they have the right to take down anyone that points a video camera at them.

They refuse to be held accountable for their actions.

i believe you are mistaken. its perfectly legal to video tape cops. they will often give you a hard time but if you know your shit, they know they don't have a leg to stand on. they don't like people knowing this though and will often try to strong arm you from taping but its totally in your legal right to do so.

Robbie 04-29-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18097432)
i believe you are mistaken. its perfectly legal to video tape cops. they will often give you a hard time but if you know your shit, they know they don't have a leg to stand on. they don't like people knowing this though and will often try to strong arm you from taping but its totally in your legal right to do so.

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-illega...,5743261.story

brassmonkey 04-29-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18097518)

that law can be changed quickly. the people elected the dumb muther fuckers that made the law. :2 cents:

tiger 04-29-2011 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18097192)
The justice system is a joke all around.

I was on jury duty a few years ago - long story short:

Dude was sitting on the stoop of a shit hole apartment getting his hair cut by some chick. Cops roll up. Everyone assembled beats feet, except the dude. Cops chase a few people, give up, come back and put cuffs on the guy, ask him if they can search the apt. Dude answers, "What do I care, I don't live here."

Cops find a suitcase of woman's clothing, bag of crack and a POS .22 handgun, arrest the guy and charge him for both.

His car is in the driveway, registered to a diff shit hole apartment, they don't search it.

In court the public pretender produces the car's registration and a lease for a shit hole apartment across town where the guy lives.

Verdict: guilty on possession, guilty on gun charge and enhanced as a prohibited possessor cos the guy was a felon.

So if you were on the jury you must have voted to convict then right? Why would you do that if you thought the charges were a bad joke?

xenigo 04-29-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18097432)
i believe you are mistaken. its perfectly legal to video tape cops. they will often give you a hard time but if you know your shit, they know they don't have a leg to stand on. they don't like people knowing this though and will often try to strong arm you from taping but its totally in your legal right to do so.

A Chicago court recently ruled in favor of the police with a videographer beat down, claiming that videotaping the police officer interfered with his job duties.

There was another case recently where the judge said something to the effect of "I don't want our police to have to second-guess their job function. That's why we're convicting people who videotape the police."

I'm not saying I agree with it... I'm just letting you know what the courts are backing these days. It's fucked up!

Robbie 04-29-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18097547)
I'm just letting you know what the courts are backing these days. It's fucked up!

Honestly...the courts are backing up the cops 99.99% of the time. They are all buddies. Just go to traffic court one day and you quickly realize that judges, attorneys, and cops are all on a first name basis and socialize together as well. They are all on the same "team".

That's how cops get away with killing people all the time and get a slap on the wrist.

Seth Manson 04-29-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boneprone (Post 18096932)
How can we? Hes dead dude.

Trolling is a art :)

xenigo 04-29-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18097557)
Honestly...the courts are backing up the cops 99.99% of the time. They are all buddies. Just go to traffic court one day and you quickly realize that judges, attorneys, and cops are all on a first name basis and socialize together as well. They are all on the same "team".

That's how cops get away with killing people all the time and get a slap on the wrist.

Yeah... my brother's a public defender. He's talked many times about their legal social circle. I guess it kinda makes sense... since they all work together.

But I'll be damned if I'm not going to have a video tape to back myself up when it comes to interfacing with the police.

Did you see the photos of that accident I witnessed a few months back involving the CHP motorcycle cop and a Prius? Well get this... the 2 pages of my witness testimony where I said the cop was traveling a minimum of 70 mph in a 35 zone... pages were torn out of the report.

They manipulate information all day long. They see that as being their job.

baddog 04-29-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18097027)
Hmm.. where is the beating? All I hear is a man screaming like insane.. no sounds of any beating at all??

A guy that was filming a documentary on police brutality. No chance he would enhance things . . . right?

Robbie 04-29-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18097565)
Yeah... my brother's a public defender. He's talked many times about their legal social circle. I guess it kinda makes sense... since they all work together.
They manipulate information all day long. They see that as being their job.

I have a brother and two cousins who are cops. And my mom was a deputy sheriff for 30 years. You better believe they all work together with the courts and manipulate things. :(

baddog 04-29-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18097588)
I have a brother and two cousins who are cops. And my mom was a deputy sheriff for 30 years. You better believe they all work together with the courts and manipulate things. :(

It is truly amazing how many cases I have fought and won considering everyone in the system was working against me.

just a punk 04-29-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 18096912)
This is why it's illegal to videotape a police officer.

Is it really forbidden in the USA? There is such a law or something else?

DWB 04-30-2011 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 18094752)
I live here... the cops were tottaly juistified with that as shitty as it sounds...

like quoted

do you live here

answer

No

then the car is put in park cause now he;s broke the law trespassing....

people always try to be baddasses with cops and lose ...

simple answer

cop: Can I help you?

idiot: no sir just observing

cop : do you live here?

idiot: yes sir I do this is my house


bottom line is your not going to win an arguement with the cops... you may win in court but not on the street with the cop... he deserved the beating he got for trying to act like a baddass....

He could have been standing in the driveway of his moms house, his GFs house, his buddies house, or anyone else he knew.

The cop should have asked next, are you visiting someone here. THEN if he said no, ask to see his ID and go from there, doing nothing that involved violence.

However, the guy should have been straight up in the first place. That *may* have ended it right there. Or maybe not.

AnthonyCHC 04-30-2011 01:54 PM

Fucking dicks! Cops on a power trip...anyone else think this happens way to often?

Agent 488 04-30-2011 01:56 PM

evil cops. but you know it was revenge for his other video.

biskoppen 04-30-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan (Post 18097287)

You've seen too many movies or something? :helpme

You can beat a guy in a lot of different ways. Doesn't have to hear it.

How do you know he is beat up then?

Robbie 04-30-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18099001)
How do you know he is beat up then?

ADG already posted the pic of him after they let him out of jail and he checked into the hospital. Here it is again:

http://www.opposingviews.com/attachm...jpg?1303853569

And here's the story:
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/video...-las-vegas-cop

brassmonkey 04-30-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyCHC (Post 18098846)
Fucking dicks! Cops on a power trip...anyone else think this happens way to often?

because the majority are spineless. :2 cents: and have in mind "it didn't happen to me" so they don't say shit. just like breast cancer or any other disease. people don't get in the mix till it happens to them. then their all raising money and shit :2 cents: :helpme


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