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How many IP addresses are there in IPV6 you ask?

04-26-2011, 08:37 AM

Three hundred and forty undecillion, two hundred and eighty-two decillion, three hundred and sixty-six nonillion, nine hundred and twenty octillion, nine hundred and thirty-eight septillion, four hundred and sixty-three sextillion, four hundred and sixty-three quintillion, three hundred and seventy-four quadrillion, six hundred and seven trillion, four hundred and thirty-one billion, seven hundred and sixty-eight million, two hundred and eleven thousand, four hundred and fifty-six.

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04-26-2011, 08:38 AM

Great, I'll take 20

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04-26-2011, 08:40 AM

when are people gonna start using ipv6? (hosts)

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04-26-2011, 08:43 AM

Thanks for the tip chief.

Originally posted by fris

when are people gonna start using ipv6? (hosts)

U.S. government mandate is not until the end of next year. In the meantime, there is a tasty IP black market going on for those of us with access to a lot of IPv4 space.

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04-26-2011, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by fris

when are people gonna start using ipv6? (hosts)

Given that it's not even straightforward handling 32 bit unsigned numbers in PHP yet, I hope it's not anytime soon.

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04-26-2011, 08:45 AM

selling short IPv4's...

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04-26-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by fris

when are people gonna start using ipv6? (hosts)

We assigned our first IPV6 client last week!

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04-26-2011, 08:54 AM

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We assigned our first IPV6 client last week!

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04-26-2011, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by webair

Three hundred and forty undecillion, two hundred and eighty-two decillion, three hundred and sixty-six nonillion, nine hundred and twenty octillion, nine hundred and thirty-eight septillion, four hundred and sixty-three sextillion, four hundred and sixty-three quintillion, three hundred and seventy-four quadrillion, six hundred and seven trillion, four hundred and thirty-one billion, seven hundred and sixty-eight million, two hundred and eleven thousand, four hundred and fifty-six.

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04-26-2011, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by fris

when are people gonna start using ipv6? (hosts)

We've been using it and customers have been using it for the past 6 months.

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04-26-2011, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Spudstr

We've been using it and customers have been using it for the past 6 months.

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04-26-2011, 09:15 AM

I wonder how long it will take us to use up all those IPs. I bet someday it will happen when every site has its own IP and everything from phones to toilets have their own IPs as well.

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04-26-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Spudstr

We've been using it and customers have been using it for the past 6 months.

can everyone access it?

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04-26-2011, 09:32 AM

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04-26-2011, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by Babaganoosh

I wonder how long it will take us to use up all those IPs. I bet someday it will happen when every site has its own IP and everything from phones to toilets have their own IPs as well.

ummm considering we could assign an IPV6 address to EVERY ATOM ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH, and still have enough addresses left to do another 100+ earths, I think it will be awhile =)

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can everyone access it?

No, Isp's, cable companies, your computer, your routers etc all have to upgrade. It's in it's infancy yet.

Originally posted by Spudstr

We've been using it and customers have been using it for the past 6 months.

i stand corrected (just got reamed by my network team =), we have been offering it to clients that request it for awhile now.

We just set up our first globally load balanced client last week! Sorry guys!!!!

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How much do you charge per IPv6?

We do not charge for ip's. We will provide Ipv6 addresses at no cost. Any existing webair client can start using them at will.

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Thanks for the tip chief.

U.S. government mandate is not until the end of next year. In the meantime, there is a tasty IP black market going on for those of us with access to a lot of IPv4 space.

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04-26-2011, 10:11 AM

whats the use of those if i cant access them ?
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04-26-2011, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by webair

No, Isp's, cable companies, your computer, your routers etc all have to upgrade. It's in it's infancy yet.

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04-26-2011, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by cooldude7

please refer to above post

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whats the use of those if i cant access them ?

It's of no use to you... YET! There will come a point when it will be come more widely accepted.

As BF stated earlier: U.S. government mandate is not until the end of next year. In the meantime, there is a tasty IP black market going on for those of us with access to a lot of IPv4 space.

Eventually IPV4 will run dry.

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04-26-2011, 12:01 PM

Who here thinks the US will devalue its currency like a stock split to avoid hitting those dorky numbers with inflation someday?
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04-26-2011, 12:18 PM

I thought those numbers where reserved for Obamas new budget?

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04-26-2011, 12:21 PM

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I thought those numbers where reserved for Obamas new budget?

LOL, really??? A discussion about IPv6, and you somehow turn into hatred towards Obama? heh, wow, that's quite impressive.

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04-26-2011, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Babaganoosh

I wonder how long it will take us to use up all those IPs. I bet someday it will happen when every site has its own IP and everything from phones to toilets have their own IPs as well.

Phones typically have internal ips and the calls are made off of a router that has 1 ip. This is with most in-house hardware, such as printers and pc's. They will be using ipv6 shortly with plenty of ipv4 space left.
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04-26-2011, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by cooldude7

whats the use of those if i cant access them ?

You will have to use them. Because we are running out of the old IPs really fast.

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04-26-2011, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by webair

Three hundred and forty undecillion, two hundred and eighty-two decillion, three hundred and sixty-six nonillion, nine hundred and twenty octillion, nine hundred and thirty-eight septillion, four hundred and sixty-three sextillion, four hundred and sixty-three quintillion, three hundred and seventy-four quadrillion, six hundred and seven trillion, four hundred and thirty-one billion, seven hundred and sixty-eight million, two hundred and eleven thousand, four hundred and fifty-six.

you lost me at quadrillion.

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04-26-2011, 02:30 PM

I wrote a blog article about IPV6 and our allocation (http://blog.nationalnet.com/2010/10/...her-fun-facts/)

I was amazed at the size of the numbers and especially the size of our allocation (79,228,162,514,264,337,593,543,950,336 IP addresses). I learned numbers I never knew existed (like "undecillion")

My favorite line about our allocation is "If NationalNet decided to give a copy of the current Internet (which is about 4 billion IP addresses) to everyone on the planet out of our IPV6 space, we could give each person 3,074,457,345 internets a piece."

Now...that's a lot of IP space!

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04-26-2011, 02:35 PM

My hosts upgrading I guess, no idea wtf
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04-26-2011, 02:36 PM

wonder if freenet6 is still going to be providing free ips

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04-26-2011, 02:39 PM

So 'they' didn't anticipate that we would need more than like 4 billion IPs?

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04-26-2011, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Kiopa_Matt

LOL, really??? A discussion about IPv6, and you somehow turn into hatred towards Obama? heh, wow, that's quite impressive.

Do you by chance have nightmares about Obama eating babies, and things like that?

Sorry, I didn't know I had to be aware of your feelings when using sarcasm about our government, I will try in the future to be political correct in my endeavors to bring light to my concerns over our fiscal stability, or the lack there of!

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04-26-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Babaganoosh

I wonder how long it will take us to use up all those IPs. I bet someday it will happen when every site has its own IP and everything from phones to toilets have their own IPs as well.

that sir is the intent of IPv6.

its kind of scary, because then, in theory, everything connected to the interwebs will have a unique IP that will never change... which is good for big brother.
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04-26-2011, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Why

that sir is the intent of IPv6.

its kind of scary, because then, in theory, everything connected to the interwebs will have a unique IP that will never change... which is good for big brother.

That is correct fine sire. If people knew all of the 'big brother' aspects to IPv6, they would not be in such a hurry for it's release that's for sure.

However, the remaining IPv4 blocks are held by a few connected players. A lot of hosting companies without connections or cash will start feeling the pinch on IP space for the next 12-18 months. Many companies are already cutting back to assigning only 1 IP per VPS/server. Any others requiring justification. There are still probably 10 years worth of IPv4 easily if ARIN reclaimed unused space from defunct companies, or from the government agencies that have insane amounts of IP's never used.

That said, they are instead moving ahead to IPv6 as the norm. Forcing the world as a whole to make the upgrade to the next generation. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. The last hooray of the IPv4 black market is upon us.

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04-26-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

So 'they' didn't anticipate that we would need more than like 4 billion IPs?

because what 'they' intended to do with the internet is not what actually ended up happening to it.

you should educate yourself on the history of the internet thingy and how it came to be, etc. you might learn something.
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04-26-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by webair

Three hundred and forty undecillion, two hundred and eighty-two decillion, three hundred and sixty-six nonillion, nine hundred and twenty octillion, nine hundred and thirty-eight septillion, four hundred and sixty-three sextillion, four hundred and sixty-three quintillion, three hundred and seventy-four quadrillion, six hundred and seven trillion, four hundred and thirty-one billion, seven hundred and sixty-eight million, two hundred and eleven thousand, four hundred and fifty-six.

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04-26-2011, 03:05 PM

Here is an article where Microsoft just spent $7.4 MILLION for 470,016 IPv4 addresses

That's thats $15.96/IP!

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04-26-2011, 03:05 PM

of course there are a few other protocols on the internet they should be forcing people to upgrade as well... SMTP being one of them.
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04-26-2011, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by LBBV

Here is an article where Microsoft just spent $7.4 MILLION for 470,016 IPv4 addresses

That's thats $15.96/IP!

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Bill your link is broken for some reason, but here is the article for those that want to read it....

http://www.thewhir.com/blog/Tom_Mill..._Ask_Microsoft
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04-26-2011, 03:29 PM

my penis needs it own IPv6 addy , who can assign it to such a massive piece of human flesh?
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04-26-2011, 03:32 PM

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04-26-2011, 03:47 PM

big brother .... big brother .... who the fuck cares. If not doing anything wrong or illegal who cares if the govt can see what you surfing. People bitch for the sake of bitching. 300 million people in the country, and they worried that "big brother" might catch them watching midget sex.... so the fuck what. Pretty good chance "big brother" is only going to be watching the people who are trying to blow up shit and not what your porn perversion is. Now if you are trying to blow up stuff, then yeah I can understand you being pissed about big brother...

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04-26-2011, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

So 'they' didn't anticipate that we would need more than like 4 billion IPs?

in 1981 when IPv4 was standardized? No.

Comcast is probably the largest ISP rolling out ipv6 now. Lots of clients will be able to use it soon.

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04-26-2011, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by redwhiteandblue

Given that it's not even straightforward handling 32 bit unsigned numbers in PHP yet, I hope it's not anytime soon.

you hope not soon? You hope to have shit be totally fucked up soon?
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04-26-2011, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Barefootsies

U.S. government mandate is not until the end of next year. In the meantime, there is a tasty IP black market going on for those of us with access to a lot of IPv4 space.

Found a website where you can trade them, my area (asia pacific) seems to be the highest valued since it's the most scarce. At $4 an IP I could spend a bit of time renumbering and cash out a cool $1k for doing nearly nothing.

Back in 1996 you could get a /24 for free and a /22 with a bit of lying. I've never paid a cent for my IPs. Wish I'd gone for the /22 back then...
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04-27-2011, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by rowan

Found a website where you can trade them, my area (asia pacific) seems to be the highest valued since it's the most scarce. At $4 an IP I could spend a bit of time renumbering and cash out a cool $1k for doing nearly nothing.

Back in 1996 you could get a /24 for free and a /22 with a bit of lying. I've never paid a cent for my IPs. Wish I'd gone for the /22 back then...

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