Xbiz Poll Cited as proof by ICM that the sponsoring community supports .XXX

[JFK]

Fitty.................polls supporting .XXX

[will76]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Will. I like others would like to say that you have done some great work here. However I feel that you are wasting your time and should better focus on the company you work for or own or what ever.

Very little you do now will effect the outcome of this. .XXX is and will pass. Its about the money.

Thanks again for the info, but me personally. Im back to work.

I don't mind taking a few minutes of my time to post about this stuff, even if it only gets through to or matters to a small amount of people. It's not like I am wasting hours a day on this stuff. At most it took me an hour to put this thread together and couple minutes to bump it here and there. People waste more time on here arguing about politics or would you hit it threads. I guess this is how I prefer to blow off a little steam and waste a few minutes of my time. I can't work 24/7.

Besides if I wasn't posting threads like this JFK would have less sig views

[LAJ]

Keep fighting the good fight Will

[shade001]

Originally Posted by will76

I don't mind taking a few minutes of my time to post about this stuff, even if it only gets through to or matters to a small amount of people. It's not like I am wasting hours a day on this stuff. At most it took me an hour to put this thread together and couple minutes to bump it here and there. People waste more time on here arguing about politics or would you hit it threads. I guess this is how I prefer to blow off a little steam and waste a few minutes of my time. I can't work 24/7.

Besides if I wasn't posting threads like this JFK would have less sig views

Not everyone in the biz posts here........many I know that do post here post rarely. Every little board has it's own crowd.........but just because you don't see hundreds of webmasters posting on GFY about this doesn't mean the majority of the industry has sold out. I think if anything most are just tired of all the drama and are struggling to keep afloat.

Myself, I feel no other issue has the importance of the .xxx issue and how it plays out so I've come to the one place where the cat gets dragged out in the open.

[shade001]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Keep fighting the good fight Will

I admit I've given Will shit before (doubt he even remembers it) but I am 100% behind him on this. As for the cries of 'shit stirring' it's those who shine the light in the shadows that improve the industry for all us.

[Nikki_Licks]

Back to the top!

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by shade001

I admit I've given Will shit before (doubt he even remembers it) but I am 100% behind him on this. As for the cries of 'shit stirring' it's those who shine the light in the shadows that improve the industry for all us.

I've met Will... known him for years... and he without doubt has the industry's best interests in mind.

Speaking of best interests... have any of the proud supporters or sponsors chimed in at all in this or the other thread? Where are the questions... where is the outrage? If there was speculation that your sponsorship dollars were potentially directly or indirectly funding something that either undermined your business, or worse yet, can put you out of business... wouldn't you demand answers?? Perhaps that is going on behind the scenes, but I'm not seeing it here. Do you just stand idly by and accept that there is a big cloud over it all and just ignore it and hope for the best?

[2intense]

Originally Posted by merina0803

[2intense]

FUCK .xxx

[JFK]

Originally Posted by will76

I don't mind taking a few minutes of my time to post about this stuff, even if it only gets through to or matters to a small amount of people. It's not like I am wasting hours a day on this stuff. At most it took me an hour to put this thread together and couple minutes to bump it here and there. People waste more time on here arguing about politics or would you hit it threads. I guess this is how I prefer to blow off a little steam and waste a few minutes of my time. I can't work 24/7.

Besides if I wasn't posting threads like this JFK would have less sig views

your help is greatly appreciated

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by 2intense

FUCK .xxx

q f t

[will76]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I've met Will... known him for years... and he without doubt has the industry's best interests in mind.

Speaking of best interests... have any of the proud supporters or sponsors chimed in at all in this or the other thread? Where are the questions... where is the outrage? If there was speculation that your sponsorship dollars were potentially directly or indirectly funding something that either undermined your business, or worse yet, can put you out of business... wouldn't you demand answers?? Perhaps that is going on behind the scenes, but I'm not seeing it here. Do you just stand idly by and accept that there is a big cloud over it all and just ignore it and hope for the best?

ynot was the first board I posted on, Connor and Jay are good guys. I remember meeting Jay back in 03/04 Miami. One of the first people I met from the boards.

[TheDoc]

Do you guys go off on the Banks this much or Insurance companies, which have and will continue to fuck us all over, and say one thing and do another... far more than .xxx will ever do?

What has .xxx done to hurt your business or life? I can name 3 trillion reasons why/how banks & insurance companies screwed us over, but I can't think of one thing .xxx has done to my business, country or life.

[shade001]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Do you guys go off on the Banks this much or Insurance companies, which have and will continue to fuck us all over, and say one thing and do another... far more than .xxx will ever do?

What has .xxx done to hurt your business or life? I can name 3 trillion reasons why/how banks & insurance companies screwed us over, but I can't think of one thing .xxx has done to my business, country or life.

I'm not in the insurance business. I agree we should be really pissed at the Federal Reserve, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs.

How about the IMF? How about the Federal government in the U.S.? How about the oil companies? How many different subjects would you like to discuss here........or could we just concentrate on this right now so we can at least try to understand who exactly in OUR BUSINESS is trying to fuck us this time?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by shade001

I'm not in the insurance business. I agree we should be really pissed at the Federal Reserve, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs.

How about the IMF? How about the Federal government in the U.S.? How about the oil companies? How many different subjects would you like to discuss here........or could we just concentrate on this right now so we can at least try to understand who exactly in OUR BUSINESS is trying to fuck us this time?

If you're worried about people fucking you, then you should stop doing business all together. If you're worried about .xxx fucking you, then don't buy one. It's that simple.

The ONLY reason this topic wont fade away is a VERY FEW small group of people really f'in hate the people doing this, and hate them for not being totally pubic about a private business and are pissed that they used every method you can think of to get it through, ie: business! It has nothing to do with them screwing anyone over....

So if people want to concentrate on what is actually screwing us over, then pick something worthy, a bank, oil, IMF, who gives as shit - just pick something that doesn't make the majority sound like a bunch of whinny bitches.

[will76]

Originally Posted by shade001

I'm not in the insurance business. I agree we should be really pissed at the Federal Reserve, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs.

How about the IMF? How about the Federal government in the U.S.? How about the oil companies? How many different subjects would you like to discuss here........or could we just concentrate on this right now so we can at least try to understand who exactly in OUR BUSINESS is trying to fuck us this time?

Doc is an idiot, always has been, always will be. errr ".xxx hasn't cost me anything?" No shit dumbass, nothing *YET*, it hasn't gone live yet. It's what it will do to us. What an idiot.

There is enough idiots like TheDoc on GFY being pissed at politics, the banks, the conspiracy theory crazies, anti US govt etc... and other shit that they have those things covered. I would rather focus my "being pissed" at industry related things and people who actually post here. What a moron post by him, i'm not surprised though.


Looks like the bros stopped posting, but the village idiot wondered in with his 2cents... Hey doc when 90% of the people disagree with you, then you know you are wrong dumb ass. Well unless its an xbiz poll, then maybe 90% of the people would agree with you LMAO.

[shade001]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you're worried about people fucking you, then you should stop doing business all together. If you're worried about .xxx fucking you, then don't buy one. It's that simple.

The ONLY reason this topic wont fade away is a VERY FEW small group of people really f'in hate the people doing this, and hate them for not being totally pubic about a private business and are pissed that they used every method you can think of to get it through, ie: business! It has nothing to do with them screwing anyone over....

So if people want to concentrate on what is actually screwing us over, then pick something worthy, a bank, oil, IMF, who gives as shit - just pick something that doesn't make the majority sound like a bunch of whinny bitches.

It has everything to do with a small group of people trying to dominate this industry. If you don't get that it's okay, I do get it. I'll be glad to discuss current world events in another thread.

[shade001]

Originally Posted by will76

Doc is an idiot, always has been, always will be.

I wouldn't say that, I'm not a GFYer but I have read the forum enough to know he does make some good points, in my opinion, on some subjects. But you can't agree on everything, that's life.

[will76]

Originally Posted by shade001

I wouldn't say that, I'm not a GFYer but I have read the forum enough to know he does make some good points, in my opinion, on some subjects. But you can't agree on everything, that's life.

he is good for at least 3-4 more bumps, then he will have a melt down and spit out phrases like " game on" make up some lies, and get all flustered.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by shade001

It has everything to do with a small group of people trying to dominate this industry. If you don't get that it's okay, I do get it. I'll be glad to discuss current world events in another thread.

I don't see how this group could dominate anything when they can't manage their own companies correctly.

It's just another business move, one I wish I thought up... I would have just straight up said I was doing it for money though, and cut all the b.s. from the start. However I probably wouldn't have gotten it passed then.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by will76

Doc is an idiot, always has been, always will be. errr ".xxx hasn't cost me anything?" No shit dumbass, nothing *YET*, it hasn't gone live yet. It's what it will do to us. What an idiot.

There is enough idiots like TheDoc on GFY being pissed at politics, the banks, the conspiracy theory crazies, anti US govt etc... and other shit that they have those things covered. I would rather focus my "being pissed" at industry related things and people who actually post here. What a moron post by him, i'm not surprised though.


Looks like the bros stopped posting, but the village idiot wondered in with his 2cents... Hey doc when 90% of the people disagree with you, then you know you are wrong dumb ass. Well unless its an xbiz poll, then maybe 90% of the people would agree with you LMAO.

It looks live to me, you can register a domain name... and we're still here, so you're going to have to tell me what it will do to us, what story do you want to make up in your head to make yourself happy?

Hey idiot, when half the people that took the GFY poll actually own content, then you can use it... but I see who said Yes, and most didn't own content... oh wait, do you actually own content? Oh... so chances are YOU wouldn't have to do shit, it WILL BE product owners that do... So go run your pathetic mouth some place else.

Then, go crawl yourself back into your pathetic wage hole that your so proud to spout off.

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It looks live to me, you can register a domain name... and we're still here, so you're going to have to tell me what it will do to us, what story do you want to make up in your head to make yourself happy?

Hey idiot, when half the people that took the GFY poll actually own content, then you can use it... but I see who said Yes, and most didn't own content... oh wait, do you actually own content? Oh... so chances are YOU wouldn't have to do shit, it WILL BE product owners that do... So go run your pathetic mouth some place else.

Then, go crawl yourself back into your pathetic wage hole that your so proud to spout off.

What's up doc?

Even Will thought you would be good for two or three more bumps before you started sounding like this.

Best you mosey on over to the medicine cabinet and take your meds buddy.
.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

What's up doc?

Even Will thought you would be good for two or three more bumps before you started sounding like this.

Best you mosey on over to the medicine cabinet and take your meds buddy.
.

Oh look a nobody troll, pretending to be a troll.... how does Will's cock taste in your mouth?

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Oh look a nobody troll, pretending to be a troll.... how does Will's cock taste in your mouth?

Oh wow I think I've just been insulted or something.

I remember when you used to come off all cerebral and everything.

And debates with you were actually kinda fun... and challenging.

What happened?
.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Oh wow I think I've just been insulted or something.

I remember when you used to come off all cerebral and everything.

And debates with you were actually kinda fun... and challenging.

What happened?
.

I have nothing to debate on this topic....the entire situation leading up to it, is screwed up.

However, it's also years old and I'm tired of hearing about it, for sure from the same whinny people that act like they're doing something by talking but truly never take any real action, they just bitch.

This has NEVER been about what it is, or what could happen... it's about WHO is doing it, 100% WHO. They were hated BEFORE this came out, and that hate has been echoed for years. And as this moves forward, the hate follows along.

What's to debate?

[MOxxx]

Originally Posted by will76

yeah looks like this is old news already. Everyone will be whoring soon enough to try to get their precious xbiz awards.

We will come out with our awards soon.

[will76]

Originally Posted by MOxxx

We will come out with our awards soon.

LOL


Thanks thedoc, I knew you were good for a couple bumps with your nonsense... Here is another one.

[will76]

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Oh wow I think I've just been insulted or something.

I remember when you used to come off all cerebral and everything.

And debates with you were actually kinda fun... and challenging.

What happened?
.

Since he bite the hand that feeds him (TMM Nats) and had a big blow out with John, who cut him off. I'm guessing he is stressing because he is making a lot less money. hence the pure rage + stupidity with his posts now opposed to the past when it was a calm stupidity.

[Alprazolam]

Originally Posted by will76

Since he bite the hand that feeds him (TMM Nats) and had a big blow out with John, who cut him off. I'm guessing he is stressing because he is making a lot less money. hence the pure rage + stupidity with his posts now opposed to the past when it was a calm stupidity.

that guy is a dumb shit know it all anyhow. always trying to fix the dumb shit his wife says. someone should muzzle her. why is she allowed to speak again?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by will76

LOL


Thanks thedoc, I knew you were good for a couple bumps with your nonsense... Here is another one.

Bump... hi poser!

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Alprazolam

that guy is a dumb shit know it all anyhow. always trying to fix the dumb shit his wife says. someone should muzzle her. why is she allowed to speak again?

Yawn... if you're going to troll at least attempt to be good at it.

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

However, it's also years old and I'm tired of hearing about it, for sure from the same whinny people that act like they're doing something by talking but truly never take any real action, they just bitch.

Honestly... then why are you participating in this thread?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Honestly... then why are you participating in this thread?

Well, why not? It is an Industry forum, where we can discuss our view points openly.

Please correct me if I'm wrong... but didn't you dislike the group doing this well before .xxx started?

[Adam X]

lust for power and green greed in the porn biz, nah say it aint so!

[will76]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Honestly... then why are you participating in this thread?

for the bumps... that is the only thing he is good far and he is doing well.

Funny thing is he isn't even part of the bro club, he represents only himself when he speaks nonsense. Not like he is even trying to defend anyone or win brownie points, he really believes the dumb ass shit that comes out of his mouth.

Of all the people on GFY over the years thedoc is one of the ones I disagree with the most. Right up there with Paul Markham and Robbie, although in the last couple years Robbie has been getting better.

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well, why not? It is an Industry forum, where we can discuss our view points openly.

Please correct me if I'm wrong... but didn't you dislike the group doing this well before .xxx started?

I dislike a lot of people in this industry Chris. That's far from the point. Ya don't have a dog in this one, so enjoy the sound of one hand clapping.

[will76]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I dislike a lot of people in this industry Chris. That's far from the point. Ya don't have a dog in this one, so enjoy the sound of one hand clapping.

He doesn't care because he doesn't have anything to lose. All he does is a little Nats programming, wait, he doesn't even do that any more. Maybe his wife cares more and she can educate him better.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I dislike a lot of people in this industry Chris. That's far from the point. Ya don't have a dog in this one, so enjoy the sound of one hand clapping.

I'm not looking for anyone to agree with me here, I stated what I think and I think it drives my point home.

And I do have a dog in this Industry, more than most. Outside of my entire family being in this Industry, I still do own adult sites and produce sales, and I've got my clients.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by will76

He doesn't care because he doesn't have anything to lose. All he does is a little Nats programming, wait, he doesn't even do that any more. Maybe his wife cares more and she can educate him better.

Look at the fool pretending like he knows me or my wife.... what a jack ass.

[MOxxx]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I've been impressed with Ynot's coverage of this so far. Nice to see an adult media outlet who will post the facts, ask the hard questions, and not just repost the same fluff as everyone else.

Thanks we try to be that way. Since 1996.

[will76]

bump...... (thedoc is slacking).

[will76]

page 4 already

[theking]

Originally Posted by will76

page 4 already

Here you go...another bump for you. BTW how is being a sig whore/troll working out for you? Making the big bucks now?

[2intense]

FUCK .xxx .....problem solved

[MOxxx]

Anymore news?

[will76]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

if xbix shows arent a ghost town this year, then we will all see how the adult industry really feels about .xxx and alec...

any takers on the fact this this will not effect their show attendance one bit..








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Apparently you are correct, look at all the bros lining up to go to the xbiz show in Chicago and wondering why people are hating on poor xbiz... https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=18136993

[Redrob]

Source: http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html

Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx

* To: <stld-rfp-xxx@xxxxxxxxx>
* Subject: Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx
* From: Gregory Dumas <gdumas@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 15:36:31 -0700
* User-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0

Title: Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx

I write this to communicate my support for the .xxx TLD proposal. I write as an experienced member of the online Adult Industry and have been since 1995.

I currently own an Internet marketing company specializing in adult website marketing since 2001. Prior to that I was President of IGallery, as subsidiary of New Frontier media, a NASDAQ listed company from 1996 to 2001 and prior to that was VP of Marketing for Hustler launching its flagship site in 1995.

I am also a director of the Free Speech Coalition since 2001.

All these companies share one belief ... that child pornography is illegal, it is morally wrong and it should be stopped. This application demonstrates that belief and that the adult industry is prepared to both do something about child pornography and open up a dialogue with the broader Internet community.

.xxx offers an opportunity for the online adult industry act responsibly.

It provides a new forum and platform for the online adult industry to begin to self-organize and to develop their own credible and responsible business practices.

I have personally met with many of the leaders in the online adult community from around the world ... from Python Communications in Curacao ... to Netcollex in the UK ... to Hustler, Vivid, AVN and many many more have all demonstrated their support for this application.

In addition, there is great concern about the risks posed to the industry if .xxx was to ever become a generic TLD.

No other application has stronger industry support or as broad and diverse a community of International supporters from all impacted stakeholders.

Greg Dumas

Interesting.......

I was on the FSC Board of Directors in May of 2004 and Greg Dumas was not on the Board at that time as he states in his letter to ICANN.

As I recall the FSC Board of Directors consisted of Kim Airs, Nick Boyias, Jeffrey Douglas, Mara Epstein, Sid Grief, Joan Irvine, Mark Kernes, Reed Lee, Mike Ocello, Julie Stewart, Adam Glasser, William Murphy, Nick Orlandino, and Kat Sunlove.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Interesting.......

I was on the FSC Board of Directors in May of 2004 and Greg Dumas was not on the Board at that time as he states in his letter to ICANN.

As I recall the FSC Board of Directors consisted of Kim Airs, Nick Boyias, Jeffrey Douglas, Mara Epstein, Sid Grief, Joan Irvine, Mark Kernes, Reed Lee, Mike Ocello, Julie Stewart, Adam Glasser, William Murphy, Nick Orlandino, and Kat Sunlove.

Greg Dumas doesn't seem to be the type that minds the truth getting in the way of a good email to spam .XXX Rob.

[Alprazolam]

Greg Dumbass is a sell out fuck.

[B.Barnato]

bump for thruth